[Closed] Titus el guapo ????

I love mine, bought frame only back in may an it's built up pretty tough with 36 vans on the front and dhx coil rear, saint cranks, 1x9, hadley/flow wheels, elixir brakes, reverb and it weighs 33lb which I don't think is bad at all! It ride really well, climbs nicely and great downhill. I prefer it to the 2006 enduro I had for years and the mythic rune I had previously!

Endurogangster
I used to have a s-works 2006 enduro with 36's and dhx and loved it and you reckon your el guapo is better???
What size enduro did you have ? And what size is your el guapo?

Size medium in both, slightly longer top tube on the el guapo, I think it climbs a bit better than the enduro and going down is at least as good if not a bit better, just feels very balanced and well controlled both up an down. The reason I got rid of the enduro was that I snapped the chainstay and lost a bit of faith in the frame, they look a bit beefier on the titus which is a bonus.

How tall are you endurogangster and inside leg?
Also where are you based? Possible demo??
Cheers jonny

I'm 5'10", inside leg of 30". I'm in Sheffield so ride peaks, sherwood pines and
Cannock fairly regularly if you can make it to one of them you're welcome to have a go. Email is in profile if
You want to sort something out?

Cheers mate email on its way
Im Huddersfield based !!

Is there anyway of test riding this as a bike

Funnily enough I also replaced my '06 Enduro for an '09 El Guapo after snapping a chainstay. I preferred the Titus, and I don't thing there have been sweeping geometry changes since then. I am 5'10, and have M in both.

However, having paid top dollar (£1600) for an '09 frame before Titus went bust, the shine was somewhat removed for me when On-One took over and started knocking them out for £600!

Anyway, brand snobbery aside, its a great frame for the price...

What are these like for an all day bike?

I haven't done many all day rides on it, but a few over 4 hours and its been fine, with my fitness and gearing choice the limiting factors, no reason with a few choice parts and air suspension front and back you could get near the 30lb mark!

What are these like for an all day bike?

very good. comfy and climbs well. only thing i miss is not having a lockout on stock shock(s). mine's around 30lb with no real effort to be light (pro2 flow etc).

Anyone else???

I'll let you know in a couple of months when I get mine 😀

What's it like to obtain spare parts ie bearings in frame

Bearings will be standard at a guess (and so available from your friendly neighbourhood bearing stockist), can't imagine they will have specced "custom" bearings on a £599 frame TBH.

what fork are you chaps running on yours in order to get a reasonably light(ish) build? i can't decide what to go with and i'm planning on getting one of these for this summer...

I'm running a 160mm Fox 36 Talas with a low stack headset as it's a 1-1/8" steerer. It works well but I wouldn't want to go any shorter than that.

i was thinking 34 floats 160mm (at 4.3 lbs) or solo air lyrics (4.8 lbs)

There's one for sale on eBay at the moment if you don't mind nearly new.
Can't remember the details, think it had a reverb though - I was watching it but reckon it's going to go well over my budget.

I'll be putting 150mm Sektors on, as that's all i've got!

Or if you're wanting a cheap complete in large maybe check out my ad 😉

the reason I'm getting rid is it doesn't suit ne as an all day ride - that's a function of the size more than the bike though. At 6'4" i find it a bit too short to be comfy for me. Goes down hills like a rocket mind, and a very fun ride.

Mine arrives tomorrow, medium with CCDB frame.
Going to put some 36 Floats on her

Get one!
I love mine as an all day ride, built up with 55s and CCDB Air.
This morning:

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Love mine. Have done some longer rides on it but nothing mega yet. It's a bit heavy and 2.4 supertacky Maxxis tyres are never going to roll well but it goes downhill brilliantly so i can live with everything else.
Mine has Fox 36 talas on it and if i was buying it again i would have got a float rather than a talas as i don't use the travel adjust because of the pedal strike issue being worse with the fork wound down.
Spares wise watch the horst link pivot as they have changed the design from a captive nut to circular nut and mine fell out 2 rides in and couldn't source one locally, it wasn't in the standard bag of bolts that on one do for the EG and they had to take one off another frame, but it took a bit of persuading to get them to do it, but they did in the end so i was grateful.

Also if you have an EG with a DBair and are stuggling to get all the travel then there is a warranty upgrade to a high flow inner aircan that TF can do. Just had it done to mine and it is loads better at using all it's travel

Anyone near Cheshire with a Medium I could chuck a leg over? I'm not sure on sizing..

Had a Large SC Heckler, but always found it to short/ high? always felt like I was perched on it.. 😥

Got a large in the Lakes that you can try for elimination purposes if you are up here.

@Pridds, interesting, I can't get it to surrender the last 10mm of travel is that similar to what you experienced?

@Pridds - is that Ian from YHA? How long have you had the El Guapo? What do you think of it?

Yep exactly that, sorted now, give them a ring. Need proof of purchase (screenshot of my order on the on one site was enough).

It is mate, thinking of moving on from the Five? Had it since August and took a while to get it all dialled in but there now and love it but its much more of a winch up and plummet down kind of bike than my Stumpy was. If you want a go, give us a shout.

Yeah, I'm thinking about it...

Might give you a shout next time I'm in the area.

What are these like for an all day bike?

very good. comfy and climbs well...

oh yeah, my very first complaint: no bottle cage mounts. room for one on downtube but isn't, if you're handy with rivnuts or strap-ons maybe :p no room in middle of frame.

it's a bike that can be built to handle almost anything i guess but it is looong, and also [url=

if you're on an early v3, but i think they raised it up to 0 drop now.

@Pridds, thanks for the information. I spent a while fettling with the shock in the alps to try to get the last of the travel. No matter how hard I hit things I was getting the same results.

When you say call them do you mean TF or On One?

Sorry for the thread hijack! FWIW I still love the bike and would wholeheartedly recommend it.

Is the difference between the £799 with ccdb worth the extra £200 over the monarch ????
Or would an RP23

Fwiw at 87kg wanting a more DH setup i have no issues with the monarch. Sure a ccdb would be "better" but dunno about worth it? Everyone raves about them, whereas some folk don't get on with the monarch i think.

depends how tight the budget is, if you can spare the 200 I'd probably go for to avoid future wondering "what if". But then what would 200 spent elsewhere get you...(or a weekend away riding it somewhere fun!)

Anyone ride these with an RP23 rear shock?
Thoughts please

anyone run one with 150mm revs and an angleset?

they looks and sound ok to me.

I've got a medium frame with a brand new Monarch shock for sale at the moment. Its a victim of its own success really as it rides and especially climbs so well that I find myself sat down all the time and its hurting my back. Could be a bargain for someone 🙂

How much dropoff? And what year is it?

@chillidave call TF and explain you are not getting full travel

Pridds... who are TF? (yes i'm a noob!) and does it matter that i got my CCDBa from on one with my frame? i'm getting about 85% of the travel on mine and don't really want to run any more sag and any less LSC/HSC....

here's mine by the way:

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love it, it's a big beast of a bike 8)

I'm kind of waiting for the 29'er version

If we're doing pics, here's mine:
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Note the fashionable home-made mudguard 😉 Draws many an admiring glance...

its hurting my back

I'd think the BB would be a bit low with 150 revs on. It's low with the totems at 160 (more than +10 over revs IIRC) and whilst it feels good, lower might be too low. And even with these I was considering a -1 degree set of cups. Also revs might be a bit flexy? More a long travel XC fork than a short travel DH fork which is what it really deserves IMO.

Sorry TF are TF Tuned Shox who do the servicing for Cane Creek shocks n the UK
Contact info here
http://www.tftunedshox.com/contact/contact.aspx
They are very helpful and know their onions. They also gave me a suggested tune for mine which i am still contemplating but is interesting to compare to where i had it pre upgrade
As long as you can show you bought the frame with the shock then they will be able to do it under warranty
After mine was done i was able to run it with less sag and get more travel.

cheers man

IA - check you FS thread please

@Pridds, thanks very much for the advice, I'll give them a call in the morning.

Hi Wors, original ad here http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/titus-el-guapo-frame-1 Price dropped to £450 + delivery

anyone run one with 150mm revs and an angleset?

revs yes, angleset no. plenty slack enough, or did you mean in reverse to raise it up? i was considering.
we've been over this well on mtbr, fork length makes only a small (few mm) difference to bb height, real issue was early v3 frames were well out of spec, approx 20mm drop when it should be 0. this would need, i forget, roughly a 220mm imaginary RS fork i think to counteract!
revs are great btw, makes for a great climber and probably not too flexy unless you're big and doing big DH.
monarch is also great, i'd say as as good as an RP23, but the way the lever works doesn't give any lockout (not really low speed compression as in ProPedal). can't comment on CCDB but what i've seen from people with all the shocks to try is the CCDB doesn't particularly suit this frame either (maybe that's pre-modification?). Monarch Plus might be the way to go? check mtbr forum for more info.
another + for this combo is it's user serviceable.

Read the thread on MTBR a while ago but have you got a link to the thread and have on one offered a solution for those with an early frame?

yes BB issue has been sorted (imo at least) see the following link for a 10 page thread re BB issues, and my input on page 10...
[url= http://forums.mtbr.com/titus/why-bottom-bracket-height-my-new-eg-v-3-so-low-813147-10.html#post10030660 ]click me[/url]

Ah interesting. I always wondered why some people complained about an over-low BB, as I always found mine low but fine. But that there were some early V3s with issues explains it, as I've got a late V2 which presumably doesn't have the issues.

The low bb issue what model/year was this an issue?

From the links above it seems to be the early V3s, so that would be spring 2012 on I guess?

Further investigating reveals mine's a V1, which confusingly isn't the first EG but rather the first on-one EG.

As far as I can tell:

V1 - 1.5" headtube, cable guides on headtube (what I have/am selling)
V2 - taper headtube, cable guides change.
V3 early - taper headtube, 1 degree slacker, 10mm longer, "too low" bb
V3 revised - "fixed" bb.

This seem correct anyone?

V1 - 1.5" headtube, cable guides on headtube (what I have/am selling)
V2 - taper headtube, cable guides change.
V3 early - taper headtube, 1 degree slacker, 10mm longer, "too low" bb
V3 revised - "fixed" bb.

V1 refers to the first version we brought into the UK when Planet X bought Titus. Not the first ever El Guapo. So yes, you're right.
V2 - Correct.
V3 - No, not really... Frame was optimised for longer fork, which means that the seat angle is steeper for a given fork length, but the head angle was slackened a degree too. Which means that for a given fork the BB is also lower. Some of these models had a jigging error and had a BB that was too low, but by no means all of them.

So are all the models for sale on the website now clear of jigging error/bb issue? Only asking as I'm trying to convince a mate to buy one.

Funnily enough I am also thinking about replacing my 06 Enduro with an El Guapo. There must be something strange that draws Enduro owners to El Guapos.

Brant
How can it be determined which frame is the ones with the jigging error?? without building up a bike?
also are these frame warranty re-placable??

Hi Brant, I received mine shortly after the new V3 was launched. Is the string between axles and measuring the offset sufficent for you to know if it's one which was subject to the jigging error or is there a better way to tell?

Here's mine:

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Edit: or not for some reason!

I bought one in July and would also like to be able to tell which version I have.

kevin1911 - Member
I bought one in July and would also like to be able to tell which version I have.

do you have issues? or does the bike perform in the way you'd like it to?

if it performs to your satisfaction, then what does it matter?

if you're having issues, you've already got your answer 😉

Not having issues, just curious which version it is, and whether it might be one with the jigging issue.

Besides, not sure I'd really notice if the BB was a few baw hairs too low.

Is the string between axles and measuring the offset sufficent for you to know if it's one which was subject to the jigging error

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So would you say the current ready to ride el guapo on the website is set up geometry wise how it should be? Right fork etc?

Is the string between axles and measuring the offset sufficent for you to know if it's one which was subject to the jigging error

yes

Measured mine and the drop is about 10mm. Explains the large number of pins in my pedals that are now just stumps!

current bike should be good. try riding with -22mm - ratchet cranks anyone?

Looking at the on-one site it says a 67 degree head angle but then recommends 150-160mm forks. Is that 67 with a 150 or 160 fork? I presume a 150mm and on-one smoothie headset (with 15mm lower cup)

[i]Looking at the on-one site it says a 67 degree head angle but then recommends 150-160mm forks. Is that 67 with a 150 or 160 fork? I presume a 150mm and on-one smoothie headset (with 15mm lower cup)[/i]

My bro has just got a el guapo im waiting for the large orange one to come in stock..
he used a 150mm fork but he kept bashing pedals so upgraded to 160mm which apparently is the best for fork frame so i guess the angles were done with a 160mm

But a 150mm fork with a smoothie headset is the same a2c as a lyrik and flush headset

waiting for the large orange one to come in stock..

[url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/fs-large-el-guapo-will-split ]I can help there[/url], I'd do you frame and forks for what just the frame would cost new, or frame and dropper posted... Ok a new one would be a degree slacker, but the money saved would more than pay for a slackset if you tried it and wanted slacker...(totems fairly long tho)

Remember seeing one on a pootle. Lovely in orange but 'unusual' looking.

I read on mtbr over the issues and do you really need to run 160mm forks with them?

**** all secondhand out there.

I have got a V3 running 150mm forks feels good to me, I run about 25% sag at the front which give it the same geo as 160 at 30%. The bike really comes into it's own on fast technical descents and I also really appreciate how it handles technical climbs, lots of grip. You do need proper pedal technique as the bb is lowish but the flip side of this is you get this amazing planted feeling in fast corners.

Seems like on one are NEVER going to stock them again. Mate wants a medium with a ccdb...

The 29er looks exciting 130 rear 150 front. I think as long as they haven't had QC issues as the factory they must be going on sale soonish.

I've got a large EG and am loving it! I'm running 150 mm Sektors as that is what I had and don't find the BB too low although mine is one of the latest batch and so any problems should be sorted by now. As stated I think the fork lenghth is fine but I find them a bit flexy at the kind of speeds that this bike encourages (especialy with over 100 kgs of finest Derbyshireman behind them!)and so am saveing for something with 36mm stantions.