[Closed] Titus El Guapo 29

I've just had a reply from Brant. Should be available mid/late Jan.
Awaiting reply on price for frame.

Price will be about £100 more than the 26er.

Cheers for that - sounds good. Just need to find out seatpost size now.

I think it's a 30.9 post.

I have one of the prototypes at the moment. Damn fast bike. It got me frightened enought to buy new knee pads. 🙂

Thanks Shaggy. Sounds ideal, I'll just have to be patient.

Me too 🙂

30.9

more info:-

140mm front, 140mm rear (actually 138, 140 and 142mm depending on size), 142mm back end using Shimano E-thru standard with our axle supplied, will work with new Shimano rear mech hanger style (available), mixer tapered headtube with 12mm upper bore, new cable routing on downtube and chainstay for rear mech and rear brake, FD over top tube (doubles as dropper guide), 25mm BB drop static, 68deg head angle, 580mm, 600mm and 625mm top tubes and 700mm, 720mm and 745mm front centre on the 16, 18, 20in models, 458mm chainstay, 190mm x 50mm shock, 73deg seat angle (actual) gives 74.5deg (effective).
Front centre is LONG and designed for stability and lack of flop and for use with short stem (we have a 35mm model coming). Colours black (ano), white (painted), super-raw (ano).
Completes at the factory on the 7th of January 2013.

Put a Zee Shadow Plus mech on last night. http://www.flickr.com/photos/7792762@N08/8207435664

Brant, thanks for the update, all sounds really good.

[i]140mm front, 140mm rear (actually 138, 140 and 142mm depending on size), 142mm back end using Shimano E-thru standard with our axle supplied, will work with new Shimano rear mech hanger style (available), mixer tapered headtube with 12mm upper bore, new cable routing on downtube and chainstay for rear mech and rear brake, FD over top tube (doubles as dropper guide), 25mm BB drop static, 68deg head angle, 580mm, 600mm and 625mm top tubes and 700mm, 720mm and 745mm front centre on the 16, 18, 20in models, 458mm chainstay, 190mm x 50mm shock, 73deg seat angle (actual) gives 74.5deg (effective).
Front centre is LONG and designed for stability and lack of flop and for use with short stem (we have a 35mm model coming). Colours black (ano), white (painted), super-raw (ano).[/i]

Just the clours would have been fine 😉

Cane Creek dbair ? or a pony Rockshox Monarch

CC

Swap for a yelli?

Hmm, any chance of no/different shock options?
Wont be able to afford the CC.. Guess thats my problem!

Hmmmm these look suitable

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Glad I didn't get the 26er now 🙂

Can I have a large with short chainstays?

How's that going to work?

Sorry that was a reading fail - assumed the different sizes had different travel due to having different length chainstays in the style of the Nukeproof Aurum.

There aren't any short chainstays in any size either

Had a word with the importers of x fusion today and the 34mm Trace RL2 29er 140mm with a tapered steerer Is going to be around £465.00 retail, considering the fox equivalent is double that price

What an absolute bargain!!!!!

BigOldHills - Did they say when are the X-Fusion forks likely to be available?

I quite like the look of the 34mm stanchion forks for 'normal' 26" wheels.

If only they did it in mans sizes, instead of hobbit 20". Will be sticking with the 5 spot for a bit longer.

mtbtomo - The 2013 29er forks are due in mid to end of Jan
But they said the 26er forks are due in end of this month 😀

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Thanks, don't need new forks but its tempting...

Any updated pics and delivery dates on the eg29er Brant ?

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Completing 7th January, so should be with us Mid Feb, or late Jan.
CCDB's ordered.
No pricing set.

Super............... Cheers for the update 🙂

might have been covered somewhere else but is the Titus Rockstar carbon 29er due at a similar time?

There are photos of my prototype in the new issue of Singletrack Magazine in the bikepacking feature. As well as in MBR & Dirt! Might have been a good idea to write Titus on it somewhere 🙂

Here it is in Spanish Utah

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That Mr Oxley is a most impressive beard 🙂

How do you find the eg 29er ?
Compared to the 26er you were riding with early in this year

I like it a lot. It's the bike I've chosen to ride most this year -Pyrenees, Basque Country, Alps and at home. With a CCDB Air shock and the other changes for production I'm hoping it'll be even better.

Really looking forward to seeing this 8) Ed what would you say are the pros and cons? A kinda quick sum up?

Think I'll be pulling the trigger on one of these when they become available, hope they do it in raw.

Pros - big wheels are better for the general trail riding that I do. All the stuff about better rolling and more grip is true. This bike is slack. For a 29er it looks nice.

Cons - You can't get 55s, Lyrics etc. yet. Bigger stanchions would be great. You also don't have big travel if you want to take bigger landings etc.

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Think I'll be pulling the trigger on one of these when they become available, hope they do it in raw.

is the Titus Rockstar carbon 29er due at a similar time?

Sooner.

yet

yet

Pros - big wheels are better for the general trail riding that I do. All the stuff about better rolling and more grip is true. This bike is slack. For a 29er it looks nice.

Cons - You can't get 55s, Lyrics etc. yet. Bigger stanchions would be great. You also don't have big travel if you want to take bigger landings etc.

Not quite true but you need to get it from the US
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Not quite true but you need to get it from the US
[url http://www.lenzsport.com/detail.php?prodID=15/url

Don't understand, all I can see is an ugly DH 29er with double crown forks.

The advantage of a 29er dh bike is that all the annoying brake bumps are caused by 26er wheels
So in theory a 29er / 650b wheel should float over the top of them
Especially for over used trails in resorts like Morzine, Les Gets ect

They do look like a dogs dinner though !

Saying that this one doesn't look that bad

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The 34mm x fusion looks like the way to go with the Eg 29er
The one piece crown with the 34mm legs should stiffen up the front end
That and a quality wheelset ..............

job done

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And this one too. Looks lovely, shudder to think of the cost. He does appear to ride it 'properly' though.

I quite like that in a weird ugly duckling way

Wouldn't it be good if they made a 160mm Pike for 29ers?

You heard it here 😉

That blue one is Whafe's. top guy...This is similar, bit less travel at the front, bit slacker. 150mm front and rear. 66.8HA

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Like Mr The Rock hints, there will definitely be a 571mm axle to crown 29er fork next year that isn't the Dorado (150mm is 565mm so you work it out)

So you can already go 34mm stantion, 150mm travel 29er with the Fox...but they aren't very cheap unfortunately.

Should also have said how great it is, agree with Eds position generically except for the fork..

I rather fancied the El Guapo but it was gonna be a bit late for me. Followed Brants evolution of the design with great interest and some of his insight was helpful to me speccing the Nicolai and the thoughts and experiences of some STW staff and others was helpful too.

Looks good would have to come shire horse size for me though, not hobbit 20"

Bit more info on the X Fusion Trace - spoke to Upgrade today, now not due until end of Feb at the earliest, gah! On the plus side the top of the range model with DLA travel adjust will have an RRP of £610 although I don't think this is the unicrown model as that has further delays.

Bad times! What else is there other than the fox just now for burlier stuff?

white bros loop or marz 44? Anyone with any experience of these?

x fusion ?

As above, not till end of feb 🙁

End of Feb 😐

The eg frame will probably arrive at the same time

Looks like Its the waiting game then

am i right in thinking that the bigger wheels will eliminate or at least reduce the pedal strike issue of the 26? (this being the main reason i didnt get a 26 a few months ago and am still in the market! for a FS)

the pedal strike issue of the 26

Turns out it was only some of the early V3s that were made wrong that had that problem. See my post (and Brant's reply) here:

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/titus-el-guapo-6/page/2#post-4525089

If you're after a large V1 with no too-low issues ... 😉

Any news on the Guapo 29er?

Bump....................

The new specialized enduro 29er has got everyone running back to the drawing boards 😀

The eagle has landed in the 29er big fork department 😀

Just need Brant to pull his finger out with a delivery date on the EG 29er !

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Saw that, wonder what travel they're going to be, presumably 140mm. I loved my old pikes.

look at those stanchions! - they look longer than 140 to me...

wild guess: no change from £600

160mm travel apparently 😀

But will the eg take that travel fork with out cocking up the geometry

Is Brant in today ?

I'd guess that those Pikes will be at least £600. 29er forks are still so limited on a budget....£300 is a bloody lot of money for a set of forks for me, yet it only buys you a set of Recons new! I imagine that longer travel stuff is going to be even more overpriced!

The new Pikes look to be around the £700-850 mark 😯

BUMP.........

Any news on the delivery date for the EG29er Brant ?

Hello.

I have on 18in one in Sheffield. One 16in one in Portland.
Batch being assembled right now then checking, finishing.
Shocks coming from Cane Creek.

I am saying "mid June" right now.

What was the other one they were touting too, codine i think? would like to know eta of that.

What he said ^^^^^^^^^ and cheers for the quick response there brant

Hello.

I have on 18in one in Sheffield. One 16in one in Portland.
Batch being assembled right now then checking, finishing.
Shocks coming from Cane Creek.

I am saying "mid June" right now.

mid june will be pie in the sky like the last drop of ****ed up 26er El Guapos!

Also interested in Codeine info if your there Brant....

Wobbem, I don't think that's true re the spesh. It very much depends what you want to do with it. With that SA, chain stay length and rearward weight distribution plus slackish (its actually not very slack) geo it is likely it wont climb great, which is fine if you only want to go down, a criticism labeled at many slack arsed 26 bikes, the likes of which its trying to emulate. IF you want to go down really quickly you dont weant mega short chainstays either. It can contribute to a more 'fun' feeling if your idea of fun is lots of manuals and pops. Climbing ability not being a priority was also alluded to in the video. Its always been possible to build what they have done, albeit having to modify front D's or 1x10/1x11. you just needed to make a banana of a seat tube. They had the clout with Sram to make a new mount plate/derailleur, fair play.

There is more to a bike than chainstay length....

Thread resurrection, Brant do you have any more news on this, itching to buy a 29 suss for a few months now and have been waiting on this but patience is about done TBH.

Indeed, it would be good to get an update. Last I heard was June but we're nearly there and no further news. The Titus website still suggests March and hasn't been updated.

Also it would be good to get an idea on frame prices and if you're doing full builds.

In QC, Taiwan side.

They have QC

Thanks for replying Brant,fingers crossed for the mid June estimate. Any chance of a cheap pre-order? 🙂

Any news on a likely date these will appear in the UK? It's mid-June now and there has been no update on delivery on the websites or on here. I need something by the end of July, so I'm holding on at the moment, but will also need to look at other options as I can't hold indefinitely.

Another thread resurrection, any more news? I've been looking at the Transition Bandit and the Giant Trance X but I'm really very interested in one of these. 🙂

I emailed them directly about this last week, and the response was no chance for September, maybe later in the year (if we're lucky). I think my cash is now going elsewhere, it's too long to wait given the initial expectation of Jan/Feb time.