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Yes, a bit of a w*nky thread title.

I’d like new tools for keeping on the bike. I’m looking for a multitool and tubeless repair kit (I’ve never used one before, if I’ve ever had a tubeless flat I’d stick a tube in) and some sort of on bike storage that’s waterproof and won’t go bouncing off down the trail.
I don’t need a chain tool as have Park Tool CT-5, I’m ok with tyre levers and a pump, just need everything else. What can you recommend?


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 10:59 am
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I still mostly use a backpack or bum bag but then I’m stuck in my ways! From what I read you’ll need, a) lots of money for the tools, and, b) lots and lots of expensive velcro straps..


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 11:18 am
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One Up stuff. Either in the steerer tube or the pump mounted to the bottle cage.


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 11:33 am
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I've tried a few different things:
- Zippy saddle bags - straps broke or zips gave up.
- Just a strap - things get muddy and wet and rusty)
- Dakine Hotlaps gripper - same, plus rattly/ shifty, plus velcro and strap placement wouldn't really work for the amount I had in it (not enough)

I bought a couple of these: https://www.huckbike.co.uk/products/huck-1ltr-keep-it-dry-bag (but a discontinued version for cheaper on amazon - all gone now, though), cut the bulky strap off the top, put tube, tool, inflator, CO2, repair turds inside, folded end like and envelope than over a couple more times, inner tube laccy band round the lot, then strapped to the saddle rails with a voile type strap, and another bag with the same to a tool plate on the FS.

Compact, stays tight, dry, no rattles or shifting. I looked at those fancy Boa jobs that Silca do, but I can triple mine up over 3 bikes for the same price and not have to shift things over. And mine will stay drier and working for longer, I expect!

Also looked at the 76 projects piggy bags, but the didn't fancy the zip or the price differential!


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 11:38 am
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Muc Off (and others I'm sure) do a tubeless repair kit that fits in a bar-end plug, were doing them dirt cheap on clearance a while back - didn't get one but wish I had now thinking about it!

I've got the One-Up pump with tools, very neat solution (and decent pump also!)


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 11:39 am
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Yes, a bit of a w*nky thread title.

Shoulda been TTUMOBTASS


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 11:58 am
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I've just ended up sticking with a small saddle bag. I usually reckon on getting about 2-3 years out of one before the straps (or more accurately, the stitching) fails. That way I can swap all my tools between bikes in seconds, I'm not having to double up with tubeless repair kits and multi-tools.

Rest of the stuff goes in jersey pockets. It's about the least faffy method I've found. Thankfully with tubeless I carry a lot less anyway, I've pretty much binned off carrying tubes altogether.


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 12:02 pm
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Thw OneUp EDC is really good, it's not cheap but well worth it IMO


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 12:17 pm
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I've been pretty happy with the one up threaded EDC in the steerer combined with a fork cork so I can stick other stuff up the steerer tube and bar end tubeless repair. Have that in all bikes bar one and that's only because of the carbon steerer. Oh, and no fork cork on the 38s because of the oval profile.

Was recently looking for a Salsa mini mount dry bar velcro strap thing for the under the down tube bottle cage bolts but they're hard to find.


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 12:21 pm
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I’ve settled on a small pouch for tools/spares that can fit in any of a jersey pocket, bum bag, backpack or frame bag depending on the bike/ride/weather.  Tube and mech hanger live on the matching bike. It’s not as neat as a matched ‘system’ but it covers a few more odds and sods.

If i was starting completely from scratch and wanted it to be neater I think I’d see how much i could pack in a oneup pump and then build on that


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 12:26 pm
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What can you recommend?

Not keeping tools or tubes on your bike? In this country at least, anything strapped to a tube is going to be covered in crap by the time you want to use it, and after a couple of years will have seized if they had any moving parts (a pump for instance)

All of the multi-tools that live inside forks or handlebars or other places, either 1. require some warranty breaking surgery of your fork to fit, 2. don't contain the multi tool options you probably need or if they do they have convoluted storage requirements to make them fit which makes them either a variation of not very good to useless at repairing the thing you want. 3. Rattle or otherwise make a noise.

If you really can't be doing with a pack, then pockets.


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 12:34 pm
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and after a couple of years will have seized if they had any moving parts (a pump for instance)
the EDC pump has a seal so can't see this happening. Great bit of kit.

My new(est) bike has a bolt-on cover over a hole in the downtube which I've replaced with a 3d-printed slidey one, basically allows access to the entire downtube. Need to work out just how much stuff I can realistically stash in there 😂.


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 12:49 pm
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My tools mostly live in a frame bag on MTB, saddle bag on road bike and a water bottle on commuter.


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 12:59 pm
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After upgrading my fork to a Factory 38 & losing the EDC tool storage, I moved the tool to the pump & ditched the frame mount for that too.
Now everything I need is carried in a Dakine hot laps 1L including:
One up 70cc pump and EDC tool with plugger,
6mm allen tool from ikea for axles,
Pirelli smart tube,
Leatherman style PS,
One up chain link tool,
Wallet,
Phone,
Keys,
Rab Vital jacket,
Can of craft beer.
Also strap a folding saw on the outside when needed.


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 2:19 pm
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Frame storage is great, sadly lost this on the Kenevo SL, so One Up pump and tool on frame, tube and dynaplug in a dry bag attached to the Specialized SWAT carrier which bolts to the Specialized saddle (otherwise strapped to frame).


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 2:43 pm
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Cant really go wrong with a decent saddle bag. I like the lifeline ones and have them on 2 bikes.

I carry:
Inner tube
Chain links
Tubeless repair tool/patches
Topeak multitool
Co2 or pump
AXS spare battery
Spare contact lenses


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 2:51 pm
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+1 to the oneup steerer tube storage and multitool

Great bit of kit !


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 2:54 pm
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Not keeping tools or tubes on your bike? In this country at least, anything strapped to a tube is going to be covered in crap by the time you want to use it, and after a couple of years will have seized if they had any moving parts (a pump for instance)

I've had a pump on my frame for about 10 years and it is still absolutely fine, it just gets hosed off with the rest of the bike.

For storage, I have a tube, multitool, tubeless repair kit and some tyre levers in a saddle bag in the front triangle of my frame. The outer bag gets a bit muddy when conditions are really bad but the stuff inside is in a ziplock bag so it is also fine.

I like having it on the bike, means I have the right stuff for that bike and I don't forget it!


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 3:14 pm
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Bear in mind even the best dry bag will end up with condensation. One option for forestalling that is to stick a couple of those dry sachet things that come with clothing and electronics in there to absorb moisture.

I've got a Gen 5 carbon Trek Fuel EX (sorry for the specificity - the reason for that is that different manufacturers have different approaches, and the Trek Gen 5 one is a fairly small aperture) and you can mount a Lezyne fat pump to the underside of the door hatch thing with a bit of ingenuity. The OneUp EDC is the same length but the valve head seems to mess this up, which is a bit annoying. That said, you can stuff it in the Bontrager burrito thing, stick a light tube in the other end of the hole and call it good. If you have a Specialized, it's possible to buy a 3d printed mount for an EDC pump that will allow you to strap it to the underside of their glove compartment door thing. Bear in mind the downtube options do also get damp - they're not totally sealed.


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 3:49 pm
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Granite do a chain tool that pops in the end of your bars (but you're sorted there anyway).  I think they also do tubeless repair strips and stabber thing to go in the other side of your bars.  I've got an EDC Lite, but the star fangled nut does seem to creep with it, so it needs tightening every now and then.  Lots of other options for tools in steerer tube from Bontrager, Giant, Specialized as well as One Up of course.

If you have Shimano cranks then there's a cheap tool available on eBay that slots in there - I've got one on my gravel bike and it's actually quite good (includes a spare chain link slot thing).  Giant and Topeak(?) also do a version that goes in your cranks.  In bike, it's stuffing things in the ends of your bars, your steerer tube, cranks if you have the right type or going One Up pump.

For frame bags, 76 Projects do a Little Piggy plus a bag which I have and that's good - comes with rubber things to hold it off the frame if you don't have the bosses.  Dakine also do a similar thing which I also have, also good but you'll need some tape to stop it rubbing paint off your new frame.  Then of course there are several bottle cages from Topeak, Specialized and Syncros among others that add tools to the base or somewhere.


 
Posted : 21/06/2024 4:48 pm
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I'm with Nickc on this one.

It may be de rigour to have on bike storage, but it will be permanently covered in muck, be rusty and at risk of falling off.

YMMV.


 
Posted : 24/06/2024 3:31 pm
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I've got the 76 projects Piggy, with the bag. It's great. Looks tidy, and is really secure.


 
Posted : 24/06/2024 3:36 pm
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Scienceofficer

It may be de rigour to have on bike storage, but it will be permanently covered in muck, be rusty and at risk of falling off.

YMMV.

Tried most solutions mentioned here, and I tend to agree with the above

But the OneUp EDC I'd recommend as the one exception, it's sealed from the elements, quick to access, works brilliantly. mine has the tubeless plugs and chain plier. And if you have multiple bikes, it's an instant swap. Really is a great bit of kit.


 
Posted : 24/06/2024 4:29 pm

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