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[Closed] Tick-borne encephalitis found in UK for first time

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Given the previous tick removal threads, this is now quite important. If you cycle at High Lodge, or any of the other trails around Thetford Forest, you may want to invest in a tick removal tool pronto...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/oct/29/tick-borne-encephalitis-found-uk-first-time


 
Posted : 29/10/2019 11:53 am
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We've had it for a while (in Finland), and apparently unlike Lyme's disease the encelaphalitis is contracted immediately upon the bite, so a vaccination is the only reliable protection. If the tick has fastened itself, you already have the virus.

EDIT: Pants work okay too, assuming you don't crash...


 
Posted : 29/10/2019 12:17 pm
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Out of curiosity, and speaking as someone who’s already had Lyme disease, any idea how much the vaccination costs?


 
Posted : 29/10/2019 12:27 pm
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Is DEET still the best option for a repellent?


 
Posted : 29/10/2019 12:32 pm
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This is pretty concerning...


 
Posted : 29/10/2019 12:32 pm
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I don't have it myself, but Googled, it's around 60 euros a shot and you need three total for a long-term immunity. First booster 1-3 and second 9-12 months after the initial injection.

The virus is a lot less common in ticks than Lyme's disease (I think recent research has it around 10%), and I know of people who have spent their lives in nature in high-risk zones without problems, but there is a statistically significant increase in deaths in these areas.


 
Posted : 29/10/2019 12:33 pm
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I think the vaccine is free on the NHS? I've had it for a holiday - it's common in parts of Europe and when you are camping/spending time with horses it is reocmmended.

If not free I'd guess it would be around £50-70?


 
Posted : 29/10/2019 12:35 pm
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And I don't want to sound too alarmist. If only 10% of ticks carry the virus (varies by area), 10-30% of people contracting it show symptoms, and of those only 20-30% get the actual encelaphitis, that's 0.1 * 0.3 * 0.3 = 0.009, so about 1% chance of significant effects per bite.

Long trousers with socks pulled up over them will be the next MTB fashion craze.


 
Posted : 29/10/2019 12:45 pm
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And yes DEET is recommended for non-pregnant over 3-year olds, but in 50% concentration vs. the 10-15% in mosquito repellent. IR3535 for the young ones.


 
Posted : 29/10/2019 12:48 pm
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0.009, so about 1% chance of significant effects per bite.

That’s some nice rounding up.


 
Posted : 29/10/2019 12:51 pm
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Smidge (or anything with Picardin) as a repellant.


 
Posted : 29/10/2019 1:05 pm

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