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These make the Hope cranks look positively stunning.
Remind anyone else of old Truvative's?

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I had higher hopes for the setback post too
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Posted : 28/08/2014 3:30 am
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Oh very dear.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 4:32 am
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Hmmm... 😐

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Posted : 28/08/2014 4:54 am
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It is a shame they look crap when looks are the ONLY aspect that's genuinely different about these products.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 5:58 am
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they look rubbish! the layback post just looks a bit cheap, hmmm not sure Thomson, could have tried harder


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 7:17 am
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Always a bit disappointing when companies, that have had a while to assess the competition and design something better, then come out with something that looks like this.

Again. Shimano Deore looks nicer.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 7:28 am
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seatpost is terrible, looks like a 90's kalloy job


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 7:30 am
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It is a shame they look crap when looks are the ONLY aspect that's genuinely different about these products.

The cranks are keronite coated, instead of anodised.

No, I don't care either.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 7:37 am
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As the saying goes, er, you can't keronite coat a turd.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 8:22 am
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[i]you can't keronite coat a turd. [/i]

The Op's pic seems to imply otherwise.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 8:24 am
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Is there a link? I can't find anything else?


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 8:58 am
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Thanks!


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:02 am
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I thought Thomson were liked because their stuff just worked? My black Thomson seatpost and black Thomson stem are just black with their logo. They do a good job.
Is there a Thomson range I've not seen that is all glitter and hip 80s logos and colours?


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:06 am
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this is a wind up shirley? looks like cheap tat.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:11 am
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I think the seatpost looks quality.

Maybe this pic shows it better:
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Can't really tell on the cranks, but it seems as though Thomson in general are creating more product at the expense of their old identity.

It's a bit like what happens when larger companies buy out reputable brands and try to exploit it.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:15 am
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I think the point is that Truvativ Firex cranks work very well. I had them on my singlespeed years ago. They were also very cheap. Does anyone know the price on the Thomsons? XT price? XTR? I'm guessing they'll be ever-so-slightly more than the £30 I paid for the Firex, anyway. While looking pretty much identical


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:15 am
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Not been this disappointed since Star Wars episode 1 The Phantom Menace came out...


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:21 am
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So what you're saying, is that these aren't the cranks you're looking for?


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:23 am
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I looked here thinking Thomson will blow that Hope chainset out of the water. Sadly thats proven to be totally wrong.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:26 am
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Genuine 😆 @ Jamie...!


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:26 am
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I've got a bad feeling about this...


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:28 am
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are Thomson entering the BSO component market?


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:31 am
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For a minute, I thought the bike shown on that bikerumour link had a Charge saddle.

Then I realised, that's no spoon.

*drops mic and stage-dives into crowd*


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:34 am
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People won't care what they look like.
As long as they have
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on em
money will be spent


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:39 am
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I thought Thomson were liked because their stuff just worked? My black Thomson seatpost and black Thomson stem are just black with their logo. They do a good job.
Is there a Thomson range I've not seen that is all glitter and hip 80s logos and colours?

Agreed - understated looks and no doubt they'll be strong and quite light. Sounds good to me.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:45 am
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[quote=binners ]Does anyone know the price on the Thomsons?

$700 for cranks (incl. chainring, BB and bash), cog, lockring and "transparent arcylic cassette spacers". Bargain!


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:48 am
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horrid


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:49 am
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^^ 1995 called, it wants its stem back


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 9:57 am
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They do look a bit dull but no doubt they'll last and work nicely.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 10:29 am
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But yep agreed, that bike's no looker...


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 12:18 pm
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I think they look OK, and if they're built the same as other Thomson products should last very well.

Forgive the cheesy catchphrase but I'd say they're a little more 'timeless' than those vulgar Hopes yesterday. Almost Middleburn-esque. I like.

Edit: I wouldn't buy them though.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 12:37 pm
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Personally think that layback seatpost is a massive improvement on the previous one with the bend in the shaft


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 12:44 pm
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I'm guessing they'll be ever-so-slightly more than the £30 I paid for the Firex, anyway. While looking pretty much identical

To be fair there's a lot more to cranks thank looks. You could make a Firex out of carbon at 1/4 the weight. It would look the same, wouldn't make it the same crank...

But I'd not buy them.

And that bike is utterly gopping. Headset spacers are the biggest crime.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 12:45 pm
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They will have to be much lighter, cheaper and prettier than Shimano cranks. I have old SLX and I want M980s. These Thomsons are a bit 'Volvo'.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 12:52 pm
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Maybe we are being too harsh without seeing the specs and them in the flesh?

Helicoil pedal inserts = good

common chainring fitting = good

black and simple design so less to go wrong?


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 1:07 pm
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They will have to be much lighter, cheaper and prettier than Shimano cranks

They've already failed on number three, given Thomson's pedigree I can't see them succeeding on number 1, so that leaves number 2, and I expect at least XT, if not XTR money. So... not looking good.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 1:37 pm
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I'm in the expected more camp. These seem to be a little behind the times as well as looking nasty in that pic.

With the likes of RaceFace coming out with their beautifully machined turbine cranks, or lovely carbon sixc that both have the cinch system. A system that gives all sorts of chain ring options or for a single chain ring that mounts without bolts direct to the crank arm / axle reducing the number of parts that could go wrong. These seem a little lacking in the technology stakes or the it'll just work stakes.

The new Hope cranks are similar in design with remove stuff that could go wrong philosophy but IMHO are not as pretty as the RF stuff.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 1:37 pm
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The new Hope cranks are similar in design with remove stuff that could go wrong philosophy but IMHO are not as pretty as the RF stuff.

Rather be stuck with Hope's funny new BBs than RaceFace's though


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 1:51 pm
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Rather be stuck with Hope's funny new BBs than RaceFace's though

Can't disagree with you there though interestingly the BB's are sold separately for the RaceFace cranks and both the RF and Hope cranks use a 30mm spindle.

Unfortunately for me I don't think there is a bottom bracket compatible with BB92 and a 30mm spindle diameter. My current hope BB is near brand new and i don't have a spare £200 for some shiny new cranks.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 2:08 pm
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E13 cranks are 30mm, and they have a BB92 - from experience, similar to raceface though

I think RaceFace mentioned a BB92 thingy


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 2:09 pm
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Yep, AFAIK the only type of BB you can't fit a Next SL or Rotor 3D+ to is a Trek BB95/90, because they just use bearings straight into the frame, so there's not enough room for the axle as well.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 2:13 pm
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As the saying goes, er, you can't keronite coat a turd.

I feel bad that we kero'd a turd


 
Posted : 29/08/2014 11:50 am
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seatpost is terrible, looks like a 90's kalloy job

Kalloy ones work well, last FOREVER and are a nice simple design. If Thomson have made one similar but a bit lighter that's a win for me!


 
Posted : 29/08/2014 11:58 am

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