[Closed] This one goes up to 12

Looks good...

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Cassette is £300.

FFS

Mega range was my first thought as well...

One thing that doesn't seem clear either is is this an "as well as 1x11" or "instead of".

Only about £650 for cassette, shifter, chain and mech. Bargain, obviously it'll be sold for less than retail but think I'll get xt for under £200

Do you def need a new mech?

Im going to say sram have made it just different enough that it wont play with rhe 11 speed stuff. Maybe im cynical but its not in their interest to make anything backwards compatible.

Cassette is £300.
FFS

So cheaper than XX1 or XX, which is now 6 years old...?

Reading the article, slightly different chain widths so unlikely to be backward compatible. I hope they apply the new tech. to 1by11 rather than ditching 11sp

SRAM insists that these alterations in design and manufacture will add ‘3 to 4 times more durability to chains, chain rings and cassettes’

So £75 per normal cassette life, without the hassle of poring over the internet to find free postage every 6 months.

I thought SRAM had been pretty decent with compatibility, 1:1 pull ratio on lots of their stuff, road, cross and mtb.

12 might be a touch too far to stick with the same ratio.

Edit: clearly talking out of my arse. Been better than shimano, though

SRAM insists that these alterations in design and manufacture will add ‘3 to 4 times more durability to chains, chain rings and cassettes’

If that cassette genuinely lasts 3 to 4 times longer than a Shimano one in Peak District grit and mud, I'll eat whatever remains of it.

So £75 per normal cassette life

I think £40 is expensive for my 9sp cassettes. I'm out of touch, aren't I?

the hassle of poring over the internet to find free postage every 6 months.

I know where you're coming from, but of all the hassles in my life, this is a pretty minor one.

That was said rather tongue-in-cheek 😉

Haha, you can never tell on here.

I was just thinking yesterday while riding 10sp Shimano with a 40t expander, that I didn't feel any great need to upgrade it. Functionally it's so close to 11sp XT.

It's certainly not the bit of my bike that's holding me back the most. More likely to spend money on better suspension first.

Seems like a LOT of effort to eliminate a front mech.

I know the RRP figures are not representative of what we will actually be able to get this for, but I'm still a bit suprised by some of the costs, especially the chain!

Eagle Crankset: XX1 – £356.00 // XO1 – £328.00
Eagle Rear Mech: XX1 – £234.00 // XO1 – £185.00
Eagle Trigger Shifter: XX1 – £131.00 // XO1 – £112.00
Eagle Cassette: XG-1299 – £353.00 // XG-1295 – £302.00
Eagle Chain: £50.00 – £71.00
X-Sync Chainring: £79.00

having said all that, top end kit is top end kit, and it will be cheaper than that in real life and I can appreciate it for what it is. Still way above my pay grade though 🙂

They may have pushed this further than I need. I'm really happy with my 11-42 ten speed expander set up but think 10-42 eleven speed would be absolutely perfect when it comes time to replace it all. With 10-50 I may have ratios I never get to use.

Bitch, bitch, bitch.

Whine, whine, whine.

(Drinks Kool-Aid)

I'm in! Fetch my credit card.

There, that saved a LOAD of time.

The best thing about this is that it'll make 10sp stuff even cheaper.

EDIT, scratch that, it's the only good thing about it.

Seems only last week (because it was) some bright spark announced and expander ring for XT 11sp that made it 10-50 and everyone (well every on Pinkbike) threw their head back and laughed about the idea of a 50t first - but here we are.

As cack-handed as I am, I still think I only need 5 gears, 6 at a push - I could live with 10-42 in 6 gears.

That's as big as the BIG ring on my road bike 😯

50t rear cassette? No wonder we had to move to 650b.

I've never gone for 11 speed as the range didn't seem big enough for my liking.
But this could tempt me. Need to head to Sheldon's gear site to do some calcs.

Seems like a LOT of effort to eliminate a front mech.

It does, especially since a lot have us have been running 1x since 9sp was new.

I don't need 5x range of gearing - I don't pedal above 30mph and I don't ride up anything over 25% gradient

£234 for a rear mech that will hang very bloody close to big rocks?
I'm out.

SRAM insists that these alterations in design and manufacture will add ‘3 to 4 times more durability to chains, chain rings and cassettes’

That's as big as the BIG ring on my road bike

Just think how fast you'll be able to go backwards.

£234 for a rear mech that will hang very bloody close to big rocks?
I'm out.

You could say that about lots of kit to be fair. 2-3 grand carbon frames without downtube protector are not uncommon frinstance.

Of course, making everything narrower with closer tolerances and wider reach will naturally make it far more durable...

3x8 still rules.

3x8 still rules.

Pfff. 1x5. Anything else is for grannies.

I have 1x5 in the shed, on 1960s tourer. 8)

My first drop-bar bike was 1x3 ! When I was five, IIRC.

I have 1x5 in the shed, on 1960s tourer.

Yeh, I have one downstairs chained to the railings. 1960s racer, handmade lugged frame, 650 tyres I think?

Longevity with cogs the thickness of a razor blade?

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They're going in the wrong direction!

[NB - Yehuda moon is baaaack 🙂 ]