[Closed] The whole Lopes Kabush podium punch thing!!!

I have no idea who they are.

One sounds like an angry dude.

The other an annoying prick who is incapable of reading a situation.

I have no idea who they are.

GTFO...!

I'm with JV, never heard of any of them. Then again if they are happy to go round throwing punches I'm perfectly happy to leave them in obscurity. 😉

Don't know who they are but Lopes sounds reasonably sane and the other guy a bit of a dickwad, as he points out it wasn't the podium presentation but staged photos a while after, not that hitting people is right.

Kabush is a dick, he wanted a reaction and he got it.

If I had one set of clean clothes and someone messed them up after repeated warnings not to, I'd be tempted to punch them too.

Sounds reasonable to me, shouldn't have punched him but shit happens, both tell the same story

In racing pmba Enduro this weekend will try not to punch anyone when im on the podium 😉

Actually I remember a very similar incident on an mtb club trip to s.wales.... in big wetherspoons in trdeagar, the line 'don't you dare flick another pea at me' became a club in-joke

You can always trust middle-aged men to lead the way when it comes to respect, dignity and style.

Yeah, it's all pretty straight forward stuff - don't do silly shit if someone's asked you not to.

Kabush is lucky he didn't get hit in the ****in face as suggested by Lopes. Instead just a gentle chest blow to let him know he was serious.

Kabush was asking for that, he sounds like a condescending bell end.

Those of you who haven't heard of Brian Lopes - He's arguably the greatest all round cyclist that I can recall. Multiple victories in BMX, 4X, DH and short course XC racing. Think he used to hold the world record for bunny hopping as well. The guy is a legend.

I'm vaguely aware of Lopes's names. Not the other guy.

Is anyone else picturing them at a school gate with one in a car?

From the comments and what Kabush infers, it sounds like Lopes was being a bit awkward for the whole duration of the event (nothing new there). So I can see why Kabush might have been tempted to wind him up. I can also see that if Lopes was already in a mood it wasn't going to end well.
It's pretty refreshing to see they're both fairly relaxed about it and accepting responsibility and aren't pointing the finger at each other.

Playground behaviour by 2 well known racers. Just makes both of them look a bit foolish.

[quote
I have no idea who they are.

I'm with JV, never heard of any of them.

GTFO!

Now lets not be hasty and punch people, you have to remember trolls only do it for attention and it's entirely likely they dont get the internet or a any MTB magazine from the last 25 years under their bridge and might not have heard of Brian Lopes as a result.

BMX, 4X, DH and short course XC racing.

Since I don't follow any of those genres of cycling it's unlikely I'd know about any of the riders. Not trolling BTW, I genuinely have no interest in that type of riding, it might as well be darts or speedway.

Maybe the pair of them should grow up?

Now lets not be hasty and punch people

🙂

I'm Penry the mild-mannered janitor, yes sirree.

Lopes has a reputation for being a bit of a Richard, but in this case he simply followed through on what he said would happen.

whitestone - Member

BMX, 4X, DH and short course XC racing.

Since I don't follow any of those genres of cycling it's unlikely I'd know about any of the riders.

Lopes is a legend but perhaps past his media prime, a bit like the American Steve Peat but better and from a previous racing generation

Why does it matter if you've heard of them or not?

a bit like the American Steve Peat but better

Controversial! Peaty was very successful in a much more competitive field IMO.

More like the American version of Gee, in terms of his public image anyway.

chakaping - Member
Why does it matter if you've heard of them or not?

What a fuss about nothing.. Super-competitive, high-level athletes acting a bit highly strung? Get outta here!
Haven't read Lopes account, but seems to me he got champagne dribbled down his head by the way he takes his cap off and wipes his head.

[i]you have to remember trolls only do it for attention [/i]
Too true - even if you haven't heard of them, what the hell does that matter? They are cyclists on a podium and the article tells you why they are there. To admit that your a bit out of the loop when it comes to some of the best cyclists in the world isn't a proud boast - just makes you look a bit of a pillock. I'd google before typing myself.

Jeff Kabush: "It’s a story I can laugh about anyway" . so that's his judgement of Lopes, that's all that matters really.

Since I don't follow any of those genres of cycling it's unlikely I'd know about any of the riders.

Why does it matter if you've heard of them or not?

To show i'm not a phanboi of either of them then pass judgement on a coupla fannies being fannies?

Actually i don't think thearticle does say who they are does it?

Lets try another name for all you Lopes deniers, and careful, now think hard.

J o h n T o m a c

Ring any bells?

He'll need to update this hallowed tome with a section on punching techniques...
[img] [/img]

Yet again, The Internet makes a big deal out of a tiny (non)event.

Weird that Lopes was wearing a t-shirt in the first place - must be going soft in his old age

As far as i can see the pourer was a total dick and did what he was asked not to do and got the outcome he was told would happen.

Moral of story is if a person says dont do x or i will hit you then they will probably hit you if you do x.

Its not right but violence is not that hard to provoke in folk if you are prepared to be a dick.

Stevet1 - Member
Lets try another name for all you Lopes deniers, and careful, now think hard.

J o h n T o m a c

Ring any bells?

Yep heard of him. No idea who he is though. I just ride bikes, i'd lump bike racing in with football and most other sports as intensely boring to watch.

Stevet1 - Member
Lets try another name for all you Lopes deniers, and careful, now think hard.

J o h n T o m a c

Ring any bells?

Again, I'm aware of the name. I couldn't tell you what he looked like or what he rode. You just need to accept that lots of folk ride bikes without following the sport/competitive side of things, buying mags etc.

Inter-county cycle polo

I've been rumbled! 😆

John Tomac? Nope.

The only DH/Xtreme sports riders I've heard of are the Athertons, Steve Peat and Greg Minaar (possibly one or two others) but if you put up photos of them with no caption and asked me to name them I'd have no idea.

J o h n T o m a c

Ring any bells?

Yep heard of him. No idea who he is though

Again, I'm aware of the name. I couldn't tell you what he looked like or what he rode.

John Tomac? Nope.

I've heard of Beryl Burton?

Lopes and Tomac are both legends in the sport.
Now, and I can't believe I'm about to try this, does Jason McRoy ring any bells?

Edit, to be fair Beryl Burton was awesome, an amazing athlete.

[img][url= https://i.imgflip.com/1x4yiv.jp g" target="_blank">https://i.imgflip.com/1x4yiv.jp g"/> [/img][/url]

Now, and I can't believe I'm about to try this, does Jason McRoy ring any bells?

Ha i'll admit i had heard the name lopes and tomac i might have been able to guess was in a pre suspension era with maybe drop bars?

Jason McRoy though i have genuinely never heard of!

People who don’t know who John Tomac is need to have a quiet word (and a google image/info search) with themselves.

'cos it's Brian freakin' LOPES!

Jason McRoy though i have genuinely never heard of!

England opener. Have a word with yourself.

I think i see a problem gere.

McRoy died when i was 11.

You lot are old.

Is it just me finding it ironic how many people are getting hot under the collar on this thread, given the subject matter?

Is there a rule I've missed that if you enjoy mountain biking you have to avidly follow, and have followed, all the various styles of cycle competition, over some years? Is there a test or something? Is this going to be in the written part of the cycling test for the licence that the readership of the Daily Mail thing we should all have before we're allowed to ride on roads?

What genres of cycling do you follow then??? Inter-county cycle polo?

Is it really inconceivable that someone could have an enthusiasm and interest in riding mountain bikes without any particular enthusiasm for, or knowledge of, any form of bike racing / competition whatsoever?

People who don’t know who John Tomac is need to have a quiet word (and a google image/info search) with themselves.

Genuinely, why? As it happens, I do know who he is, probably not in as much detail as many here, but in general terms. But I can honestly say I don't think that knowledge has ever had the slightest impact on any aspect of my life, cycling or otherwise. Will knowing that he was part of the winning team in the USCF National Team Time Trial Championship in 1989 make me ride better or my bike perform better, or make any difference to me at all, in any circumstance, ever? No.

You lot who seem to think an encyclopedic knowledge of the history of off road bicycling competition is required to be able to enjoy mountain biking and contribute to a mountain biking forum could maybe chill out a bit and get a sense of perspective.

newrobdob - Member
People who don’t know who John Tomac is need to have a quiet word (and a google image/info search) with themselves.

But what has he ever done on grit?

Is it just me finding it ironic how many people are getting hot under the collar on this thread, given the subject matter?

McRoy died when i was 11.

joshvegas - Member
I think i see a problem gere.
McRoy died when i was 11.
You lot are old.

JMC died when I was 12 and I still remember him. Bloomin newbies 😉

Met his mom and dad too at the bike show. I've got a T Shirt with a pic of him at the Kamikaze signed by almost everyone from the mid-late 90's MTB scene.

I'm with Lopes, but it's not a big issue.

I really hate it when people assume because they're in a silly mood you HAVE to be too or you're a dick.

I'm fairly sure I would have done the same thing, a bit of wine on your head isn't going to kill you, but neither is a punch to the chest.

There will be some footage somewhere of lopes boosting a triple in a 4x final (fort bill?), He was an amazing rider, still good no doubt. Amazing riders can still be dicks, both of them.

But what has he ever done on grit?

😀

Ah now see...

I'm aware of a JMC and I've heard of dirt.

And i know Missy wears a skirt

edlong - Member
Is it really inconceivable that someone could have an enthusiasm and interest in riding mountain bikes without any particular enthusiasm for, or knowledge of, any form of bike racing / competition whatsoever?

Nope, but you know a thread is going full STW when folk make a point of chiming in just to point out that they have "no idea who that is". This applies to all sport/music/film/whatever threads

Reminds me of Edvald Boasson Hagen - he came from cross country skiiing and when he started winning time trials, sprints, classics and stage races at only 21 earned the nickname Eddie the Boss - he'd heard he name Eddy Merckx but didn't really know who he was. Never heard of Sean Kelly either.
Doesn't seem to have stopped him 🙂

Nope, but you know a thread is going full STW when folk make a point of chiming in just to point out that they have "no idea who that is". This applies to all sport/music/film/whatever threads

Exactly.

It's not all about you grumpy middle-aged gravel botherers.

To be fair to me I genuinely did say it to try and show i was judging the video on that video not on preconceptions of them.

After that however i was being a trolling pillock.

I think Froome was not unlike EBH in that regard.

Was i right about tomac and drop bars though?

John Tomac? Didn't he design some bikes for PX, so presumably he's a niche industry insider like Brant?

And i know Missy wears a [s]skirt[/s] [b]dried pirrana and prison uniform[/b]*

*may have been released now.

lunge - Member

I think Froome was not unlike EBH in that regard.

🙂

Exactly.

It's not all about you grumpy middle-aged gravel botherers.

Except its he middle-aged who appear to be representing the hip young thangs ****ting about on a staged podium as heros?

Is anyone getting hot under the collar? I thought it was all light-hearted.

joshvegas - Member

Was i right about tomac and drop bars though?

Miles off. It was Tioga disc wheels [u]and[/u] drop bars - noob 🙄

I thought it was all light-hearted.

You [s]speak[/s] write for yourself!

That bloke up there in Martin Hutch's post with the red face - dunno who he is but I look like him right now...

Except its he middle-aged who appear to be representing the hip young thangs ****ting about on a staged podium as heros?

Come again?

I'm not middle aged.

It appears to be mainly middle aged people defending the reputation of some other middle aged people.

I do have a gravel bike so I'll concede you're half right.

😀

If you call me middle aged again I'm going to punch you in the face (unlikely).

Chest. Christ you can't even get that right grandad

[quote=martinhutch ]

But what has he ever done on grit?

Thank you. I was afraid the reference might be misconstrued due to recent cycling trends!

Its a shame Lopes doesn't have any gnarly xc Strava rides up, more people would probably recognise him then

teasel - Member
I thought it was all light-hearted.
You speak write for yourself!

That bloke up there in Martin Hutch's post with the red face - dunno who he is but I look like him right now...

You don't kniw who Ronnie Pickering is? GTFO

🙂

I'm not middle aged.

It appears to be mainly middle aged people defending the reputation of some other middle aged people.

I do have a gravel bike so I'll concede you're half right.

Ah, gotcha. Fair point but I wasn't thinking of you so much.

Never mind Lopes, can't believe so few people have heard of Kabush.

It's almost like the first verse of Wuthering Heights was written about this legendary encounter.

mehr - Member
Its a shame Lopes doesn't have any gnarly xc Strava rides up, more people would probably recognise him then

Why is he good a drawing GPS cocks?

I grew up thinking Blopes was a mtb legend. That was until I met him...

Me and some mates helped out with track building at the first fort bill world cup, mostly with the 4X. After the 4X race, we were winding down in the hotel bar. And so was Brian and Wade Bootes and some other crew. It was pretty quiet as at that time, most of the other riders were also doing the DH on the Sunday. Brian and his buddies were playing poker but instead of money, they were gambling for press-ups. We all ended up chatting about the race etc and then Brian had to do some press-ups... We made the mistake of taking the micky out him barely bending his arms. "That's pathetic Brian, come on get your nose on the floor!", his mates join, all a bit of light hearted messing around. At this point, Brian decided to jump up and grab me by the neck and press my face into the carpet "why don't you get your nose on the floor!". Cue everyone telling Brian to calm down etc. We all go our separate ways, everyone a bit bummed out.

I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt at the time but every story that has followed has confirmed he's just not a very nice person

Oh right, so his MTB legend status has been revoked. No wonder people haven't heard of him.

Heard of who?

joshvegas - Member

Heard of who?

RONNIE PICKERING........!