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Just checked the Turner site, and it's gone from their line-up totally now.
So it's Burner or Sultan for AM duties now.
The problem is... I'm not going to spend £4k on a new bike, as I've got all the decent kit I like, but... I can't go frame only, as that's new fork, new wheels, and new tyres - which is almost as expensive as a full bike.
Oh well, looks like I'll be riding my outdated, rubbish 5-Spot for a few years to come.
Or you become the first member of the Vintage 5 spot owners club - and lament it's demise for ever more 🙂
First Mandela, now this?
My 2005 HL 5-spot isn't dead. I still rather like it, in fact. I keep pondering about doing it up rather than replacing it...
Oh well, looks like I'll be riding my outdated, rubbish 5-Spot for a few years to come.
same as me, although there are worse bikes we could be stuck with
You can only try to kill a 5 spot, but it will never die
I absolutely love my 05 HL Spot, just can't see anything on the market today that I would want to replace it with.
[url= http://www.silverfish-uk.com/ProductDetail/9858/14836/Ex-Demo-Turner-Burner-Bike-Large ]Spend £2890 instead of £4K
EDIT: Won't make a link today 🙁
At least it went out as a thoroughbred, unsullied by 650b.
Sad indeed. Was considering a new one for my new frame, but not now. Selling my old DW 5 Spot frame as well.
On MTBR, Dave Turner said nobody wanted them anymore. All 27.5 and 29ners requested. Apparently had 25 5 Spot frames at discounted prices and only got one enquiry.
Sad
Have owned every version and easily the best FS in my opinion.
May get a Horst for prosperity..... New project mmmmmmmmm
Get a Carbon Stumpy. Lighter,, better geo, no crappy bushings etc.
The fact that you think the Turner bushings are crappy is a clear indication you have no idea what you're talking about. Specialized do make a nice riding bike but some of them eat bearings.
If Turner had ever made an 18.5 I'd have had another one like a shot. Original 2005 Horst link in 19.5 size was one of the nicest bikes I had but it was just a bit big. And the 17.5 was a bit short.
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My daughter has an original burner as well. Oh and the bushings/zerks were a brilliant solution.
The fact that you think the Turner bushings are crappy is a clear indication you have no idea what you're talking about. Specialized do make a nice riding bike but some of them eat bearings.
How much force do you think it requires to actuate a multi-link bushing suspension design?
Let's see who knows what they're talking about.
horses for courses - for me it was far superior to the stumpie.
JCL coming from a spesh to a Turner I can say the crapy bushes are much better for uk conditions than the sealed bearings in spesh and most modern frames. Bearings with balls are designed to go round and round ( like skate board wheels) spreading the grease and the wear. Not rotate on a small part of their radius. The geo on the Turner always seemed bang on for the intended use and I expect its not much different to the spesh. The 5 spot is a cracking bike in all it's incarnations Horst Dw etc. the company are superb to deal with, I will be keeping an eye out for any discounted frames I looked on both Turner and Silverfish web site and the discounted frames were either small or XXL so I can only assume all others sold out.
Each to their own.
*cough* have a medium DW for sale *cough*
No idea of the actual figures but having owned both the increased force isn't enough to make much difference in the real world. Given that and the low maintenance benefits of bushings over bearings I find it hard to see how you can describe Turner's bushings as crappy. If you want to throw some maths at me crack on, makes f-all difference to my opinion. You like bearings, I like bushings, let's call the whole thing off!
another 05 HL 5spot owner. Best bike ive ever had/ridden. Love it. No idea what I will one day replace it with.....Got to be good for another 10 years I reckon. Only the 27.2 seatpost is annoying.
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I loved my 5 Spot and Flux, great bikes
Neil you and I seem to have a similar bike history 😉
I know Alex
Ok I'll be honest...... I've been stalking your every move, and copying your bike purchases since 2004 😆
Had my HL 5 Spot for nearly 6 years before I broke it, also broke my Soda in the same month, bloody upsetting on loosing both of them at the time. Went for another HL bike to replace the Spot a Hemlock with which I'm v/happy too.
Hang on!!! Is the 5 spot really dead? Perhaps it's only resting. We may have thought the Burner was dead in 2003 but its back now! Perhaps the spot will come back one day ???
I wondered if it might turn up as a carbon 27.5.
What about the RFX six pack?
160 mm carbon 650b 28 lb trail bike with 66 degree head angle?
Could be good!
Well, I've just bought some 150mm pikes and a Monarch plus rc3 for it, with a narrow\wide ring, and will be buying a 42t rear ring for it.
Its going to be an awesome enduro machine. Long live the 5spot!
rickon - Member
Well, I've just bought some 150mm pikes and a Monarch plus rc3 for it, with a narrow\wide ring, and will be buying a 42t rear ring for it.Its going to be an awesome enduro machine. Long live the 5spot!
Rickon, are you me?? I have 150mm pikes on mine now and a Monarch plus on the way when Loco gets it in.
And ill happily admit every time i ride my 2011 5 spot i say to myself that there is not another bike that i could possibly enjoy more.
And regarding the bushings comment. I have just stripped my bike down completely to fit some PUSHed bushings and there was absolutely nothing wrong with any of the DW Link asswmbly except one rod which was worn causing movement in the rear end. Not bad for a bike that has been absolutely ragged for the last 2 years.
Long live the 5 spot 🙂
Hmmm a trend forming. Also run my HL spot with 150 36rc2's a 200mm x 50mm stroke shock and single ring setup.
My only problem is its looks a bit silly without the mudguards as its a 22"
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not lookers are they... wheres the bleach...?
😯
They're gorgeous.
But then again I don't fancy fat birds, and some love 'em.
Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum,
What might be right for you, may not be right for some.
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dude those ARE the fat bird.
Rickon's is alright, Horst is just the ugliest pivot going though. square back ends... meh.
They just look like old Kona's to me.
yeah possibly thats not good either IMO.
I didn't buy my 2012 5-spot for it's looks...they are not the prettiest machines! 😆
I've had HL and DW versions. And the HL was the best looking one. And old Konas? They 'borrowed' the design, in fact rebadged Turners years back for racing if I'm right.
Just get a HL version and bring it up to 2013 spec. The results can be amazing with a bit of time, money and effort.
Here's one I built.
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show and tell it is then. 😀
Great bikes, they just seem to get the job done without any hassle
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If anyone has a small '13 5 spot for sale I suppose I could buy it but being so undesirable I wouldn't pay much, you understand...
How is everyone finding the push bushings then? Worth the money or not?
campfreddie - that looks truly lush!
How is everyone finding the push bushings then? Worth the money or not?
they are worth the dosh IMHO
Tell me about push bushings?
Found the info
My 2005 spot was the bike I owned for the longest period. It was just over 7 when it died. For me, it was the perfect trail hackers bike and went through multiple iterations in its life, from heavy duty trail bike, lightweight XC trail bike, single ring trail hacker and balloon tyred rock crawler.
It required a new chain stay a year before and went out in a blaze of glory after an enormous crash resulted in the need for a new back end that Turner no longer held parts for, and for which I received a minor brain injury, a black eye, six stitches and embedded gravel.
I think as I shared its end so intimately I mourn its loss more.
The passing of time and the arrival of its successor, the slightly better DW 2011 spot helped greatly and the subsequent arrival of its true spiritual successor, the truly much better 2011DW sultan (in 2012) have helped me get over it.
RIP the 5 spot.
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They're lovely spots 🙂
The short link DW invented is reused by so many companies now, Giant's Maestro, Trek's ABP...
I had quite a few similar implementations, and Turner's has been the most plush and grippy I've had.
I've got a 2011 Sultan too, and for me its a different bike, it does a different set of stuff well. I prefer the Spot at the moment, but its a real nice cruiser for just plowing through stuff confidently.
Just took my DW link 5 Spot apart. Breaking up for sale. Quite sad, but time to move on!
I think the HL's look so much nicer than the newer ones, a lot of people seen to think they ride better as well, why they moved away from the HL for the sake of paying a few quid per frame to Specialized is beyond me, even if the political reasons are there to see.
And a lot of people think the dw-link ones ride better...
2fit, have you ridden a DW link bike? Or a bike with a short link? They're superb, HL is very much old tech in comparison. Regardless of having to pay royalties, the DW link is far superior.
They didn't ditch the Horst link because of Specialized, they ditched it due to the Ellsworth ICT patent..
I stand corrected, & no I haven't ridden a Turner DW, but I have tried a lot of bikes with linkages other than HL, not found one to beat it though.
Cheers.
I went from Specialized Enduro to Horst link spot to Ellsworth epiphany (horst link) to a DW link spot. Changed bearings on the ellsworth numerous times was a total pita!
The DW link is leagues ahead in climbing and decending (imo) 😀
Had bearings seize in a single pivot Marin. Lower bearings and pivot shaft totally worn out on an early blur. Just the occasional squirt of grease and I don't have to worry about anything seizing with 'journal bearings'.
Does this mean hl5's stock has just gone up? Mines still going strong after 7 years, they've got to be one of the better Buys for longevity I would've thought.
RIP 5spot,replaced with a Burner 650!
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The new 5spot(Burner) 😀
Personal preference and all that. Loved the look and the ride of the HL, my fav bike so far. The DW one rode like a dream up and down, didn't look as nice (but that's irrelevant really). But I personally think the DW is the better suspension design. Back end felt much stiffer due to the short linkages.
Hey 5 spot how do the 2 compare? I'm tempted!
Ok Coogan (and anyone else who's selling) I'll bite. I'm looking for a decent condition no cracks or dents/dings DW linked 5spot frame. E-mail in profile.
I have a vgc yellow dw in xl going for sale as full bike or frame. email in profile
Mucker you got mail.
Further to above, would need to be medium.
If you like the 5spot you will love the Burner,not a huge jump but small improvements as most 650 bikes.Only thing it gives away to the spot is a few pedal strikes due to lower bb but then it corners great ,climbs as good if not better than the spot & well planted on the downs,one fun bike!
New Pikes and Monarch Plus RC3 installed, 26 lives! 🙂
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shelves could do with a bit of organization 😉