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Looks alright, though are you really ditching all the brand identifiers? One thing stuck out, you used to click on 'FORUM' and get taken to the latest posts in Bike and Chat. Now you have to use a drop down to do that, or load another page to make another click, which doesn't seem to be an improvement.
Clicking 'Forum' in the menu takes you to the latest posts as normal. It's just there's also a drop down if you want to go straight to an individual forum.
dark mode gone
zebra stripes are back
Its a huge backward step, is this the new version forum?
I dont like anything I've seen so far.
Have to force dark mode in opera.
Also, the reply box is still swamped with the "you are not allowed to attach files" text that overlays line 3 of 3 visolinke and prevents finger curser selection of anything on the last written line.
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We leave dark mode choices up to you now. It follows your device choices and browser choices.
Apparently not. Chrome/Android and Chrome/Windows here and neither are showing Dark Mode.
We’ll look at that in the morning. I’m going to bed.
We leave dark mode choices up to you now. It follows your device choices and browser choices.
Apparently not. Chrome/Android and Chrome/Windows here and neither are showing Dark Mode.
Enter "chrome://flags" into Google Chrome's address bar and enable the "Auto Dark Mode for Web Contents" flag to force Google Chrome to display all websites in dark mode.
This makes it bearable
Not seeing the zebras. Has that been and gone in my absence? (I've been in hospital.)
We leave dark mode choices up to you now. It follows your device choices and browser choices.
You've asserted this before and whilst at the time it did, it doesn't any longer.
As far as it goes, STW's 'light' theme looks to be a considerable improvement on its previous incarnation. But I never used it other than by accident and the 'dark' theme no longer appears to exist either as a user option (which hasn't been an option for some time) or by following system / browser settings as it did previously.
Granted the old Dark theme had its issues, but this is ripping my retinas out.
STW in "dark theme" system and browser choices:
Enter "chrome://flags" into Google Chrome's address bar...
This makes it bearable
Specifically,
chrome://flags/#enable-force-dark
And you're right, it works. But it shouldn't be necessary.
Looks really crap on an iPad now, all squished in the middle with acres of white space.
If like to add my +1 to reinstating some method of enabling dark mode as soon as is possible please.
I've never been a fan of staring into a white light whilst trying to read. I went looking for the old forum enable dark mode preference that you told us to turn off at the major update to see if that might be an option again,but I failed to find it.
We leave dark mode choices up to you now. It follows your device choices and browser choices.
I have dark mode enabled on my iPad/safari yet it's showing all white page
Staring at all-white pages on both my phone and pad in Safari, I’ve made no changes to settings, and I really, really don’t like it! I’m not even sure where or what to change to go back to a dark mode!
Just checked settings, dark mode is selected, had a look in Firefox, same there.
I’ve been pretty happy with all the changes, but I’m not at all happy with this change. 😡
Something else I’ve just noticed, the forum doesn’t tell me if I’m logged in or not, or if it is, I can’t see it. There was a little head silhouette in the top right, with a red dot by it, IIRC, but there’s nothing there now - the only way I can tell is it’s letting me write this and post it.
Hopefully whatever gremlins are wreaking havoc will be rounded up soon and incarcerated somewhere without pudding to teach them to mend their ways!
If like to add my +1 to reinstating some method of enabling dark mode as soon as is possible please.
I've never been a fan of staring into a white light whilst trying to read. I went looking for the old forum enable dark mode preference that you told us to turn off at the major update to see if that might be an option again,but I failed to find it.
We leave dark mode choices up to you now. It follows your device choices and browser choices.
I have dark mode enabled on my iPad/safari yet it's showing all white page
Edit : Same white page on iPhone/safari with dark mode selected, same white page on iMac/safari with dark mode selected
Does this mean I can get away with wearing sunglasses in the house at night to view STW?, what Oakley lens would be best?
New classified
Quiet like the new view. Active groups is quite useful.
However, can you put the price back on the list view. Also, can you add the identified for the ‘paid for’ listings compared to the free ads? Makes it easier to identify the new free ads.
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Ive tried and failed 3 times to start a new topic on my Android phone and I Pad
As mentioned, dark mode is broken, hopefully that is a quick fix to sort.
The post count wastes space on a mobile screen, would be good to ditch that (on mobile devices).
Profile seems only accessible from main menu burger and is blank - until you tap the chevron and the profile options appear. It is the very last menu option with no words but a Chevron on the right.
Looks really crap on an iPad now, all squished in the middle with acres of white space.
Same on my Android phone
The site still thinks about connecting you for several seconds before it acts
The big arrow thing is back as well, but a 50mm black curved arrow on a more obtrusive blue background rather than the previous white background
The quote boxes have a big grey inverted comma "66" behind the first couple of typed letters when published
It's better on PC than on the phone, but I'm not enjoying a better experience overall, sorry
Have to agree with the above. Going to the forum Home Screen it’s just a screen full of superfluous stuff, and the very first thread only just pokes it head above the parapet at the very bottom.
As example
Should be a screenshot here…..
Enter "chrome://flags" into Google Chrome's address bar and enable the "Auto Dark Mode for Web Contents" flag to force Google Chrome to display all websites in dark mode.
This makes it bearable
As @couger already said, that worked. Didn't have to do that previously though.
I hope I remember I did this so I can go turn it off at some point 🤣
That blue band is too heavy looking - just takes over even on a 27" iMac. Makes the rest of the forum feel squished.
Too many options as well which mean even on said iMac it drops down to two lines making the band even deeper.
AS above, that dark blue band is too big and heavy on my PC.
@Mark and other STW folk - firstly, thanks for the continued work. Overall experience on a desktop is IMO for the better now. Mac OS / Safari and looking like this:
But (there's always a but), mobile browser experience - more specifically appearance - is rather inefficient. iOS/Safari with zoom set to 100%, screenshot below. It actually improves when zoomed out but not sure my eyes would cope with the smaller font that results in for too long. Inefficient use of space with the icons on a second line under username, then post count under that, THEN full/free member indicator: it's all a bit much when I really don't care that much about that info - I just want to read the posts. If this can be adjusted for mobile browser viewing then great.
In fact, for me post count really isn't important enough to me to warrant being displayed alongside username.
Oh, and thank **** zebra appearance on the mobile browser is gone. Saw it last night and very grateful that's been sacked off this morning!
The new higher contrast text is much easier to read. Agree about the wasted space but it's a small issue for me. The old hard to read text was a big issue.
Thanks for the feedback so far. A lot of what is here is default from the new theme. We’ve not written it. It’s called Newscard if anyone wants to google it. Today we’ll prioritise getting dark mode operational and other tweaks.
What does "Favored" mean? Why have I got an icon for it next to my username? and why is it spelled wrong?
Well I'm on my work PC now (Win10/Edge) and it all seems to be working very well at the moment and looking clean and fresh.
One recommendation I would make however - The login/profile button in Chrome (on Android phones, anyway) needs to be a bit more obvious. Just an outline head & shoulders icon at the bottom of the hamburger menu isn't at all clear. Can it have some text next to it and moved up to the top please? I scrolled past it several times before spotting it.
It was so good I said it twice!
Not sure what these icons under usernames mean either - I must be superior though as I have more than Mark! 🤣
- I must be superior though as I have more than Mark! 🤣
I think the cog is your own, as is the banner thing. You see yours but everyone else doesn't.
Not sure what these icons under usernames mean either - I must be superior though as I have more than Mark! 🤣
If you hover over them (on a desktop, anyway) it says what they are.
In order -
Profile, Account, Activity, Favoured (as in favourite threads), Subscriptions (i.e. threads you've subscribed to)
That blue band is too heavy looking - just takes over even on a 27" iMac. Makes the rest of the forum feel squished.
I haven't measured it other than by eye, but it looks to be switching between desktop and mobile themes at a browser width of 1000px (as it always did) and requires a width of about 1800px before the blue header condenses down to fit onto one line.
The old header menu bar used to scroll of the top screen though. This one just sits there looking all oppressive!
The black bar at the very top that just has today's date feels a bit useless too (unless I need to know the date).
Just a test, as my post yesterday vanished.
Well that worked.
just a minor one, but can we get the country of '****stan' whitelisted on the swearfilter?!
Recruitment clearly not going well - 2ndlifebikes has been our newest member for several months now.
I haven't measured it other than by eye, but it looks to be switching between desktop and mobile themes at a browser width of 1000px (as it always did) and requires a width of about 1800px before the blue header condenses down to fit onto one line.
I don't have my desktop browser maximised so there's two lines on my blue header, and it uses up an annoying amount of the window because of this, especially as the there's a significant gap between the two lines and the second line is mostly empty.
In the Members Area dropdown menu, there's both Members Feature and Members Features. Both lead to the same page.
dark mode is now available. I put mine into it. I don't like it and can find no way to change back
dark mode is now available. I put mine into it. I don't like it and can find no way to change back
Probably depends on your browser. I have Dark Mode set up as default in Chrome, so when STW made the change this afternoon, it went dark without me touching anything.
In the Members Area dropdown menu, there's both Members Feature and Members Features. Both lead to the same page.
We REALLY want you to read the members features.
I've increased the text font size by a point. It's now 16
Dark mode/light mode is now set by you in your browser or in your device settings. I've set Chrome on my machine to follow the device options. My device (Mac Mini) is set to auto, so it changes to dark at sunset or at such time that Apple deems I should have it.
dark mode is now available. I put mine into it. I don't like it and can find no way to change back
Probably depends on your browser. I have Dark Mode set up as default in Chrome, so when STW made the change this afternoon, it went dark without me touching anything.
Set my browser to light5 and STW is still dark and almost unreadable. there was a button on the blue banner to put it in dark but no way to return to light. Its pretty much unreadable for me in dark.
computer and browser set to light. STW remains dark and almost unreadable
all other websites remain light.
the blu8e banner across the top of the site
clearing cookies did it. Ta scotroutes. I can read it again
Dark mode/light mode is now set by you in your browser or in your device settings
The beige text is awful need to be more white, this is back to how it was when the last dark mode was added. Why do you make it so bad that I can barely read it other site seem to manage to get the dark mode balance just right. The dark background isn't black either. Not a fan of the blue either but the beige text is the worst
Is there more to on dark mode do or is that it?
oh, thank god dark mode came back, that was way too bright for a while there.
weird as ever - I find dark mode virtually unreadable and have no issues with normal mode. do you folk have your brightness turned up to 11?
Classifieds. The message function seems to be missing. Can this be fixed please? Ta
Oh, and login details / profile - where's that disappeared to?
(Pixel 8 phone, Android)
Oh, and login details / profile - where's that disappeared to?
Yeah not a big fan of the text colour with dark mode
weird as ever - I find dark mode virtually unreadable and have no issues with normal mode.
Same. Tried dark mode, it gives me a headache trying to read it.
One thing I really like that has appeared after the various updates is how easy it is to quote and even do a partial quote - that is good functionality
Yeah the partial quote from highlighting is nice, much easier than being forced to quote the whole thing then trim.
This might already be in the list but one thing I think is missing that's critical is the red PM message indicator dot. Assuming that will appear on the account person icon I can see how it'll work on a desktop but on mobile it will be way too hidden in the hamburger menu.
Yeah the partial quote from highlighting is nice, much easier than being forced to quote the whole thing then trim.
That was already working in the previous iteration.
How do you log off in Android?
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How do you log off in Android?
Steps in screenshot below, note that the icon under Members Area doesn't show till you tap on the empty space (I assume it's a white icon on a white background). Once that menu opens, logout is shown at the bottom.
https://singletrackmag.com/login
Posting that so can use it to login on my phone [ iPhone 12 mini ] as I can't get to the login option in the menu on that device.
Question for @mark
How does the posting/viewing/etc figures add up from 12 months ago to today on a monthly basis ?
Purely on a 'forum' basis not on a "we've had 12,0000,0000 views on the site".
Where a forum thread appears as comments under a news item it could do with a tad more styling being pulled in. Even just a divider between each comment would help. 
Anyone else seeing the caching issue again eg on the Luddite thread (wireless shifting) the latest posts view shows a post a few mins ago but it's not there when I view the thread.
Yeah the partial quote from highlighting is nice, much easier than being forced to quote the whole thing then trim.
This might already be in the list but one thing I think is missing that's critical is the red PM message indicator dot. Assuming that will appear on the account person icon I can see how it'll work on a desktop but on mobile it will be way too hidden in the hamburger menu.
One quirk I've noticed with the new quoting - and I appreciate that I'm probably in a large minority in using this workflow - I often triple-click text to select an entire line/paragraph. This isn't just an STW thing, it's an editing feature I've used across most Windows apps and web pages for decades.
If I triple-click the last paragraph in a post, the 
quote flyout button doesn't appear. So for example, if back in the the post I've quoted here I'd triple-clicked the line starting "Yeah the partial..." then the button pops up as expected; if I'd triple-clicked the line starting "This might already..." then it does not; but if instead I drag-selected that paragraph (or indeed the whole thing) then I do get the quote button.
It feels like there's some sort of non-printing markup between the end of posted text and the start of screen furniture (like maybe the 'reply' / 'quote' buttons, somewhat ironically😁) which it thinks is still part of the text and the selection tool doesn't like.
It's a minor point in the grand scheme of things of course, I just thought it was weird enough to be worth mentioning.
While we're on general feedback, I'm happy to see Dark Mode but the Singletrack header is almost invisible.
One quirk I've noticed with the new quoting - and I appreciate that I'm probably in a large minority in using this workflow - I often triple-click text to select an entire line/paragraph.
Well I’ve learnt something new, never knew of a triple-click before
Is the thread search function working? I've tried to search for the recent firepit thread and all I get is articles going back to over a decade ago. No forum threads appear.
Amazing what you can buy from Singletrack classified since the update!
Is there import duties from Germany 🤔
Is the thread search function working? I've tried to search for the recent firepit thread and all I get is articles going back to over a decade ago. No forum threads appear.
I think there are4 two searches - one for articles and one for forum posts. the obvious one at the top is for articles. You have to go into the forum to find the forum search
Cheers TJ. I found the thread I was looking for. I had to narrow the search by date which seems easy enough to do once you dig further into the options.
Well this really is poor now and getting quite farcical. Paying for an ad free experience and I struggle to login because of ads covering the login.
