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I might be wrong about this but I think posts have stopped showing up in the Chat forum - you can only see them under "Latest".
Latest chat post under "Latest" is from 49 seconds ago.
Latest chat post under "Chat" is from an hour ago.
Noticed that ^ this morning. Posts are not being updated on individual forums but everything is up to date in Overview if you hit the latest posts button.
It's getting worse - looks like it's not that they are just a while behind, they have stopped updating all together.
Overview has the same problem - last update there is from 6 hours ago in the chat forum.
I feel like there's a database consistency issue going on somewhere.
Weird innit.
Hope they kept the receipt.
Posts are not being updated on individual forums but everything is up to date in Overview
Yes... just when you think things might be getting a bit better (we can actually see when the last post is now) it goes all Homer
Replies Created has returned to the profile page. I can fix my shortcut at last 🙂
Nothing to do with the new forum as AFAIK it's always been this way, but it's always bugged me a little. What does "posts" in user profile mean? Why does it think I haven't made any? I know if I look under "forums" it displays what I think of as "posts" I've made, but in that case what does STW mean by "posts"? I'm confused. Though tbf it doesn't take much!
I think posts means news stories, so only really relevant to stw staff members
Not sure of this is related to the new forum or another glitch but my subscription has just renewed, payment has been taken, but my profile is now showing as Free Member and I'm getting ads and much less positing functionality??? I've tried logging out and back in.
There is something breaking formatting, it reminds me of the old List problem. An example is here:
https://singletrackmag.com/forum/off-topic/bully-type-dogs-rationale-for-selecting/
It goes wrong after someone posted an image, and below the edit box is very wrong indeed.
(Chrome, desktop, dark theme.)
Just looked at that thread. Seems that when an external link is used the code isn’t closed so messes up follow up posts.
The Search icon is dark grey on very dark grey. I didn't even notice it was there until I took the screenshot to report it.
I'm having that issue again where hyperlinks entered using the hyperlink tool in the toolbar are displaying previews rather than hyperlink text.
Not on the mobile site, although it is in one of the menus
It's there just hard to see
As @mark helpfully pointed out, the word Search is just a wee bit over on the left
But that returns different results.
Searching for (eg) "Lego" using the Search box returns what I'd expect, the "Lego 'want' of the day" thread. Using the link gives me a Lego Millennium Falcon build from 2016. A closed thread, yet seemingly 1 second fresh.
I'm seeing some replies as white against an almost white background which is almost impossible to remove. I seem to remember something about it being a combination of dark mode from my phone's settings and dark mode as a theme setting and the solution was to turn off dark mode in the theme setting but I can't find any setting like that anywhere. Is this a known problem?
All's well with the world of politics and justification. STW is back at centre-left, ads fully visible at 110% zoom (but not above this). Thanks
The login fields are big enough to fit an Anglesey village name now
For me, the topic list pages appear quite quickly but are non-responsive for a few more seconds after (page still shows as loading) as if it's waiting for a third-party component to finish loading (Edge, signed-in). Doesn't appear to affect the topic pages themselves.
My posts all show up straight away and have done for a while now, but I still often see threads with invisible replies from others that take a while to show up. The "most recent poster" names & times show on the list but the posts themselves take a while.
Maybe I'm special 😁
Again I'm not seeing new replies on forum posts.....
Posted on the
Anything Better Than A Sonder Camino?
thread twice and 50 and 60 minutes later nothing showing even though it's on the list of posts I have made.
Though the above showed straight away 🤷♂️
Now here's an odd one.
I've just posted a topic to the Bike Forum. It's shown straight away at the top of the Latest page along with a link saying it's in the Bike Forum, but if I go to the Bike Forum proper, it's not there.
^ same as mine.
Though I can see my latest posts on the
Anything Better Than A Sonder Camino?
provided I am not logged in!
Still having issues with the fixed forum width being too wide for my low-tech monitor. This is the right-hand side of the messaging window.
We seem to have a delay of a number of hours again, for some posts to show.
For me, the topic list pages appear quite quickly but are non-responsive for a few more seconds after (page still shows as loading) as if it's waiting for a third-party component to finish loading (Edge, signed-in). Doesn't appear to affect the topic pages themselves.
I did a bit of digging on this and it appears that calls to external GetSquirrel.co functions may be causing the issue - blocking for 10-12s.
After a period where things seemed to be quite slick, we are back to new posts being notified on the thread summary, but not actually appearing for some considerable time.
It does make having any kind of virtual conversation on an active thread almost impossible. I wonder where we are in terms of any kind of resolution?
I have asked STWHQ to give the server a kick, first time in a couple of weeks that I’ve seen delays. Should be back up to date now.
emails whenever someone posts on a subscribed thread is getting annoying, for me it means I am unsubscribing from threads now, so it isn't driving additional traffic to the site if that was the intention.
This may be a local/browser (Chrome) issue and not STW, but it only happens with STW so I'll mention it just in case:
I am in the habit of clicking something or refreshing the page and then switching to a different tab or window while it loads, then coming back to read in a minute or 2.
If I do this with STW, I get a blank white page and have to refresh in order to see anything.
Haven't tested thoroughly so I'm not sure if it happens every time, or if it's only when minimised rather than simply in a different tab etc, but thought it might be worth mentioning. Might only be on the forum list rather than individual threads. Sorry if the vagueness makes this info somewhat useless 😊
@ossify Chrome on android? I get that as well but not just on this site. Can affect any site.
Chrome on Windows PC here.
I like the new post count display on each thread.
Slow….slow..slow today, and the numerical thread response counter is weird looking.
I'd be interested in the usage stats for the new forum vs old in terms of # of visits, # of posts, changes in who is posting.
I have certainly reduced my visits to the forum cos frustration, and reduced my # of posts. I wonder how many others have changed their behavior. Anecdotally I don't seem to see the same regular names on the forum that I would expect to be posting.
No no no - that revised post/replies count logo thingy. Please no. Preferred it when it simply said "Replies: 23" rather than the circular symbol thing, which also appears to take up more space when viewing threads listed on a mobile (iphone/safari).
The swear filter is a bit overzealous.
Sal****er
Yet again the chat forum looks like nothing is being posted but if you look at Latest there is still a glimer of life.
I don't understand why this has been made so difficult but a sadly the resemblance with the MV Stena Immaculate is evident.
Nothing to do with the new forum as AFAIK it's always been this way, but it's always bugged me a little. What does "posts" in user profile mean? Why does it think I haven't made any? I know if I look under "forums" it displays what I think of as "posts" I've made, but in that case what does STW mean by "posts"? I'm confused. Though tbf it doesn't take much!
if you look at the profile page for one of the STW staff - you'll see that under 'posts' are the various articles they've written for the site, as distinct from their activity on the forum.
Mentioned above about usage, I’ve certainly been reviewing STW a lot less. Might be teething troubles but it’s just so cluttered, and I can put my finger on any one thing. I’ve signed up to eMTB forum to get some review advice and that just seems so very much simpler.
And also having the problem of the entire page being wider than my iPad screen estate.
Minor thing but as a hopeless social media dopamine addict I'm missing the wee coloured symbol showing likes/reactions. At the moment all you can see is the very small text saying who has reacted?
Minor thing but as a hopeless social media dopamine addict I'm missing the wee coloured symbol showing likes/reactions. At the moment all you can see is the very small text saying who has reacted?
also it doesn’t update and show that I’ve liked something. I’ve just liked the above post, but it doesn’t show any difference for me. Maybe it does for other people or maybe there’s a delay?
After a period where things seemed to be quite slick, we are back to new posts being notified on the thread summary, but not actually appearing for some considerable time.
It does make having any kind of virtual conversation on an active thread almost impossible. I wonder where we are in terms of any kind of resolution?
This is stopping me coming here much at the moment. The layout changes / visual stuff isn’t really an issue, you get used to that pretty quickly. But posts not appearing are a deal breaker for users.
If you sort the forum by 'Latest', the sub-head at the top then reads:
'Topics with their latest replies in reversed order'
Maybe I'm just incorrigibly dense, but I can't work out what this means. I mean logically you're trying to say that topics are arranged so that topics are displayed with the ones most recently updated first?
Could it not just say something like 'Topics in order of most recent post'
I know it's not exactly a major issue, but it's giving me a head-ache trying to work out what 'latest replies in reversed order' actually means. If the order were reversed, wouldn't the most recent ones actually be at the bottom?
I'm sure I'm missing something really obvious, like my own spiralling cognitive decline... ?
Might be teething troubles but it’s just so cluttered, and I can put my finger on any one thing.
Yes, agree. There's a lot of wasted space.
For example, the number of posts is now circled in black, as though that is now the most important thing.
But if the page was less cluttered in the first place, you wouldn't need this.
If the order were reversed, wouldn't the most recent ones actually be at the bottom?
I saw that 'Topics with their latest replies in reversed order' maybe there's a couple of commas missing?
'Topics, with their latest replies, in reversed order' or 'Topics in reversed order, with their latest replies'' ?
Chronological order would mean the oldest first, but that's been reversed. Pretty normal in forum-world - what else would you expect to see!? so why it needs stating on the page, whonose!
[edit] oh yeah, cos the Topics are in reverse order (newest to oldest), but the replies within are in chronological order! If you were new to the internet, maybe that would confuse you for about 5 seconds! 😆
Post count has a very 90s era windows vibe with the "3d" effect. The fact they're all differently sized, and unnecessarily attention-grabbing, completes the Geocities look 🙂
That's a neater solution!... 👍
f the order were reversed, wouldn't the most recent ones actually be at the bottom?
I saw that 'Topics with their latest replies in reversed order' maybe there's a couple of commas missing?
'Topics, with their latest replies, in reversed order' or 'Topics in reversed order, with their latest replies'' ?
Chronological order would mean the oldest first, but that's been reversed. Pretty normal in forum-world - what else would you expect to see!? so why it needs stating on the page, whonose!
I think it's probably superfluous tbh. I mean how else would you organise it? 😕
Let the gifs begin....
Over there ---> Bottom right of the edit window
Great but how about making posts appear when you post them and links to Flickr work.
You know like they used to do.
17 minutes and counting so far for a post on the midweek ride picture thread.
Great but how about making posts appear when you post them and links to Flickr work.
Was expecting that.
We CAN chew gum and walk. By that I mean it's not an either or thing. Stuff like these small enhancments can happen while at the same time we work on a fix for update issue. Another enhancement is on the way shortly. Don't confuse that for us not working on other stuff.
Flickr - there's nothing we can do (or more accurately there's nothing we are going to do). That's a Flickr thing. As I said before - This forum will embed any image from any other website so long as what you embed is an actual image. ie what you copy and paste ends with .jpg or.gif or the like. You CAN get that link from Flickr but they don't make it easy for you. Making Flickr links work is not on our list of priorities.
It seems a fair question to me. It's just a little frustrating when stuff that used to work doesn't and it's making me and a few other folks not bother coming on here as much.
You keep saying its a Flickr problem but sometimes it works for a while and you also posted up a list of sites that would embed pictures.
On that list was Flickr.
Can you explain why it's a Flickr problem* when the two points above seem to suggest it's not?
* in terms that someone who's spent a life with tools in hand not behind a keyboard might understand please?
Is jump to first unread supposed to work like a magic 8 ball? It's rather random; sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and whether I've posted in the thread or not doesn't seem to effect the outcome.
I just explained the problem. Flickr gives you code to paste in order to embed an image. What the forum needs is an actual link to an image. The code you get from Flickr is not a direct link to the image file on their server but a bit of code that runs in a browser that then tries to get the image.
For example - from your Flickr page here.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/stu-b/54343582474/in/dateposted/
When you clcik the share arrow you are offered a link that looks like this
'https://flic.kr/p/2qNa4Lw'
That is NOT a link to an image. It's a link to a small program that then tries to make the image appear where you have pasted the link.
The actual image file is this one..
-//live.staticflickr.com/65535/54343582474_5d64a93798_k.jpg
I've removed the 'https:' part so you can see the url.
Notice it ends with the actual filename of the image. It ends in .jpg
When you paste this url (which is the address of the actual image on the Flickr servers) it does this...
Flickr make it really hard to get the actual image file from your account. They want everyone to share only their own little snippets of code. This is how they protect images from being copied (Right click > Save as). But it makes it flippin awkward for the rest of the internet to make things work nicely. Flickr could fix this by simply letting you choose to copy the actual path to the file. This is why I say it's a Flickr thing and not an us thing.
Flickr is a site for photographers to upload their photographs. It has never been a site for people to host random snapshots to be hotlinked into other sites. They offer various links but it's always been awkward IME because they want to embed code to direct you back to their site.
If that's what you want to do then it's the wrong tool for the job. a) there are many, many other hosting sites such as imgur or imgbb or postimage which do exactly that, and b) as a full member you can simply paste images directly into the editor.
I just still can't get over the general layout, low contrast colour choice, font selection, weird font sizes, bright colours in all the wrong areas and cluttered nature of the forum. It's just so annoying to interact with. How has this gone so wrong when any other forum I use all generally look the same (which is good) and are a pleasure to use.
I've just tested, drag & drop works too. How simple does it need to be?
[img] 
[/img]
Did this work from my Flickr account using “copy” bbcode and removing the [url] sections of the bbcode ?
edit : it did but I’ll try again to remove the img letters
ok, seems to work fine for my Flickr images, final pic
b) as a full member you can just paste images directly into the editor.
I can't (not from photos on my phone, anyway)
Lete have another go ...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kuYqv2cUgiwVduJRA
Thanks for the reply.
But I was more asking why it has worked sometimes before and why it's on the list you posted up though?
As an example I posted a couple of pictures direct linked from Flickr around a week/two weeks ago.
They showed up here with a white border and the Flickr clicky logo.
Then they changed to stretched images the next morning, then by the afternoon they were showing properly again.
Then the next day they switched back to stretched images and have stayed that way since.
There are also a couple of flickr images from another member that showed up with the white background a clicky link that were still displaying correctly last time i looked a couple of days ago.
That to me says they can and have worked correctly on here.
BTW I don't want you to think I'm getting arsey about this as I'm not.
Just trying to understand why it has sometimes worked when you say it can't and wont.
I just still can't get over the general layout, low contrast colour choice, font selection, weird font sizes, bright colours in all the wrong areas and cluttered nature of the forum. It's just so annoying to interact with. How has this gone so wrong when any other forum I use all generally look the same (which is good) and are a pleasure to use.
I'm using Dark Mode but I like the colours and layout. I'm not seeing weird font sizes or clutter. I guess this is subjective though.
a) there are many, many other hosting sites such as imgur or imgbb or postimage which do exactly that,
And when I tried this to upload 7 images using IMgBB the other day, the first two showed the actual photos, the remaining 5 just had the links.
I'll try again ...
I just still can't get over the general layout, low contrast colour choice, font selection, weird font sizes, bright colours in all the wrong areas and cluttered nature of the forum. It's just so annoying to interact with. How has this gone so wrong when any other forum I use all generally look the same (which is good) and are a pleasure to use.
Can you post examples of what you mean?
It mostly looks OK to me (Using Firefox in Windows 10).
By "mostly", the only comments I'd make are that the font is larger than I prefer, but I just use the browser zoom out function to make it smaller, and the "Full/Free Member" icons stand out a bit too brightly. But it's nothing I'm overly concerned by.
What do you consider clutter? What low contract colour choices are you seeing? What fonts aren't you liking? Doesn't it look like this for you?
Like that ^^^^
I can't even seem to find a way on my Pixel8 to turn down the photo resolution so that photos come in under the 4.9MB (realise this is a me/my phone problem), so my only solution currently is to WhatsApp photos to myself (which reduces the size) save them again, and upload photos using the 'my media' button below the editor box.
It's on the list I posted as that is the list provided by the authors of the forum plugin code that we are using. We haven't written the code - we bought it. Flickr embeds do work. Just not very well and not reliably - for the reasons I've explained. Flickr uses a method that does not follow normal internet standards of operation for hotlinking images. If it works sometimes and not others then the Flickr code is behaving differently or not as expected. The users browser is ultimately running the code provided by Flickr.
There are other ways to host images on the internet that will provide you with an actual link to your images that will work just fine on this forum. As for Flickr we could spend time trying to find a way to make it work properly but then if Flickr decide to change things at their end, our fix will likely stop working. Because that's not in our control we have decided it's not a good use of our time trying make it happen.
I just still can't get over the general layout
What's wrong with it? "I can't get over it" isn't constructive. What's wrong with the general layout that you can't get over? Aside from forum post order which is being worked on the general layout hasn't changed in like 15 years as far as I can see.
low contrast colour choice
There are issues with white on white or grey on grey which has been flagged up multiple times previously, but it seems usable beyond that to me.
font selection, weird font sizes
The font looks like Ariel or similar and is the same size as most other websites. 🤷♂️
bright colours in all the wrong areas and cluttered nature of the forum. It's just so annoying to interact with. How has this gone so wrong when any other forum I use all generally look the same (which is good) and are a pleasure to use.
Again, this isn't helpful. What would be the right areas? Annoying how? Cluttered where? (It's about the least "cluttered" website I've ever seen.) If you're going to complain about your free forum then you need to be more specific, it's impossible to improve things based on user feedback if you're just sitting there shouting "it's all shit!" at clouds without any further qualification.