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I can see all the replies in that thread
If the display and styling has been tweaked, I very much approve. Can finally see more clearly between replies and opposing shade of topics works as well, it was driving me bonkers! It's edging closer to me becoming a paid up member for the first time ever just to support the change!
I'm seeing the last post in this thread as coming from GolfChick, but that's not showing for me. Also, clicking on the Last Post link > didn't scroll to the end.
Me no like.
I liked the last poster on a thread being named. Gave a clue as to whether it was worth opening
My old ride threads are now a available including the pictures which is great but still a slight glitch with the postimage links as you get two copies of each picture
On the desktop site the "Newest Member" and "Latest Post" text (in Forum Information) as well as "Currently viewing this topic" are white on an almost white background. Also the Latest Post doesn't actually appear to concur with the actual latest post (no idea about Newest Member).
When typing a reply to a thread this morning it has frozen (twice) and I couldn't type. Fortunately I opened Task Manager and that unfroze it.
I liked the last poster on a thread being named.
Yes - what TJ said.
Really speedy now, I suspect the hamster budget is going to be overspent as the poor rodents run themselves to an early death in ever larger batches.
Well I started my first thread since the forum upgrade this afternoon and I was seriously impressed with how quickly it appeared, along with the rapid and very helpful responses received.
Thanks for all the hard work folks, things are starting to look really good now. 👍
The cache bug seems to still be present when not authenticated.
I liked the last poster on a thread being named. Gave a clue as to whether it was worth opening
Also - thread post count. Oddly without it I don't seem to be able to find the motivation to bother opening them. To be honest - this is a good thing - I'm trying to kick the habit. But it might be a bigger issue for STW towers - not me engaging specifically you understand, but people in general.
And edit - just seen this is on the to do list....if only there was a way to delete your own stupid posts.
Just tried a search on the forum and got a timeout. I'm sure you're already aware but thought I'd mention it just in case it hasn't already been mentioned a hundred times 😀
I started a (very dull) thread last week entitled “headset help”. I wanted to provide an exciting update today, but the thread doesn’t exist.
If I try to access the thread from my profile, the link is to a closed thread with the same name from 2009.
Seems to be working well today. Posts are quick to load, pictures uploading etc. Pretty usable!
Is the fact that it's entirely random whether clicking on a thread title takes you to the first post, or most recently viewed post in a thread, on the to-do list? That's probably the thing I am finding most annoying in day to day use.
Is the fact that it's entirely random whether clicking on a thread title takes you to the first post, or most recently viewed post in a thread, on the to-do list? That's probably the thing I am finding most annoying in day to day use.
For me that seems to be related to the cache issue. Sometimes there are allegedly new posts but I can't see them and in those cases the ">" seems to take me to the top of the last page of a thread. If the new posts are visible to me then it works as advertised.
<Pedant mode = "on">
If you try to make a blank post it says that a post must be more than 5 characters. This is untrue, it needs to be 5 or more.
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@mark On cacheing:
The last post showing for me on this thread just now was imnotamused's from 8am yesterday despite refreshing multiple times. On making that post above just now, it appeared immediately along with all the intermediate ones.
Dunno if that helps you narrow it down any. 🤷♂️
I started a (very dull) thread last week entitled “headset help”. I wanted to provide an exciting update today, but the thread doesn’t exist.
If I try to access the thread from my profile, the link is to a closed thread with the same name from 2009.
I get that too and the 2009 thread states that it was started a week ago! I found the post on page 2 of the Bike Forum but this also points to the old, close 2009 thread.
Clearly 2 posts by the same user with the same title break something even though they should have unique IDs. It may be a glitch in the import function I suppose.
For me that seems to be related to the cache issue. Sometimes there are allegedly new posts but I can't see them and in those cases the ">" seems to take me to the top of the last page of a thread. If the new posts are visible to me then it works as advertised.
I'm not really talking about the ">". I'm talking about clicking on the thread title, it should take you to where you were in the thread - so first new post after the last one you read, but it seems very flakey.
I'd also prefer the ">" to only show if threads were more than one page long, but that's probably muscle memory from the old forum. If/when we get a number of posts in thread indicator in the listing then that would help. Basically some indication on whether a thread is one post long or 100 pages long is needed.
Anyone else found that to get the search to work, you need to click not on the magnifying glass but slightly to the right of it?
Anyone else found that to get the search to work, you need to click not on the magnifying glass but slightly to the right of it?
Yes, I had noticed that and had meant to mention it. You have to hit an invisible target to the right of the magnifying glass, which can't be as intended.
I'm not seeing that?
"Search" as a separate tab is odd though. Once the major stuff is completed, the theme definitely needs changing / tweaking.
It's all definitely a step in the right direction but I don't really understand why issues from the old forum like white text on a white background in dark mode on the pop-up dialogues still persist. It's a bit like selling your car, surely new software should mean getting rid of all the old known problems and inheriting a raft of new unknown ones instead?
I guess a swear filter for thread titles is needed! 🤣
I'm not seeing that?
You have to click in a totally undefined area of nothingness to do a search. Roughly in the red box below. Clicking on magnifying glass does nothing.
<Pedant mode = "on">
If you try to make a blank post it says that a post must be more than 5 characters. This is untrue, it needs to be 5 or more.
</pedant>
Really @cougar? 😉
Was the carbon footprint of that post worth it 😉
Seriously though, that link glitch with the search icon bugs me too. Should be an easy fix. It's on the list. I put a link in the forum menu to the advanced search page. It's actually very good. Bear in mind it searches through millions of posts and if you decide to search for phrase that's been included inside a post, in a reply for example, then it's going to plough through 10 million entries. So, expect it to take a minute to get you those results. Searching for topic titles or authors is much quicker though. The win so far is that it is comprehansive - there maybe things we can do for speed later.
A few style changes happened yesterday - nothing major. Just me and css (It's all I can do - I'm not a coder).
Anthony is currently working on building the infrastructure for our new ad positions - which is a busness critical task so sorry that it supercedes some of the bug fixings. The new ads will be in fixed places that we choose and not random places that a third party AI *thinks* is a good place to stick an ad. You may see us testing those by displaying some pretty Singletrack house graphics in various places over the next week or two. Ads at the moment are running at a minimum while we get everything sorted. This is the principal source of our costs at the moment and it's tough financially to run the ads this low. Subscriptions put cash in the bank instantly and really help.
An issue of concern to us, is that at 10:30am yesterday our PHP activity increased on the server and as yet we are still looking into why that happened. The front end result for you is that the site response time increased by around half a second. Doesn't sound a lot but it's a doubling of the response time so it's something we need to find and fix.
Andy is back tomorrow and we will start the job of removing all the old data from the old forum from the massive post table we have. It *could* be the case that this fixes a lot of the remnant cache issues - but it also might not. If you remember me explaining a few weeks ago, the old forum stored all your data from posts in the database used by the whole website - it's called the post table for Wordpress techies. This means if you could see the database as a spreadsheet there would be all the data for the site, including all our editorial content in a huge list and mixed in with all of that would be all your forum posts and replies. All 10 million of them. This means that when you move around the website from page to page that massive table is being accessed all the time. This results in slow page loads as just one problem.
The new forum stores all it's data, including all your posts and replies in it's own table (spreadsheet) seperately from the rest of the site. This means forum things shouldn't mix with website things and so the website should function faster. But right now all that old data is still being dragged around from one page to the next until we delete it. It's one of those big moments for us behind the scenes that will make little difference to you out front from a visible perspective.
With us suspecting that this move will make some global improvements beyond just speeding up page loads we are holding off focusing on some of the bugs that still exist until we've done that job, as we may find it solves a lot of issues.
My anectdotal observations are that users still getting the cache update glitch seem to be users with a large amount of data sat in the usertable. So, I'm periodically still hitting that delete cache button - not every 20 minutes though. If you notice the update issue then at least you know it will clear itself when I next push the button.
And finally, I have to say thanks to one subscriber who sent us a massive box of chocolates to the office as a thanks for what we are trying to do here. It's massivley appreciated. They will, of course, be featured in FGF this week 🙂
I'll update again tomorrow.
Thanks for all the hard work guys. Much faster today.
A couple of issues:
Edits seem to take ages to load/post. I've forever editing my posts due to typos, so really noticable for me....
When posting a quote you cannot bold/highlight a particular word/phrase within the quote (for emphasis). It seesm to bold the whole quote by default? Woudl be good to have that functionality, particularly as it allows you to do it in the editor, but then doesnt show in the post itself.
Not a fan of the very subtle 2-tone grey colourscheme. It makes the page really ill-defined in my opinion. A bit more contrast would be beneficial. (Coffee and cream anyone? 😉 )
Sticky threads don't appear on the "latests posts" combined view page. This is the only view I use (never go into Bike/Chat seperately) so I was rather flumoxed when I couldnt find this thread..... Had to go hunting through the individual forums to find this...
Hitting return in the reply box doesnt move the page view down, so you end up typing off the bottom of the screen. Untll you type a letter is seems, then the page moves.
Like this.
Cheers,
Keith
EDIT: Oh and the general symbology seems a bit off? The edit button is tiny and looks like a "new post/emil" icon, and appears at a glance to be the same as teh "go to last post" icon in the top-right corner of the thread....
Not read all the posts but is there a reason why we can't see when the last post was made on a thread?
Hitting return in the reply box doesnt move the page view down, so you end up typing off the bottom of the screen. Untll you type a letter is seems, then the page moves.
Try the Fullscreen Editor (the last icon at the top of the reply box).
Try the Fullscreen Editor
I did this by mistake. Took me a while to figure out what was going on, and then another while to work out how to get out of it (hit the same button again).
+1 to the others mentioning this...I'd far rather see the latest poster in the thread summary rather than the original poster, which is often years ago.
Also (on Brave/Chrome at least) a lot of the navigation issues would be solved by anchoring the nav bar at the top. I avoid the scrolling madness by opening each thread I'm interested in in its own tab, not ideal, but the only way to make the site reasonably navigable for me.
Sticky threads don't appear on the "latests posts" combined view page.
They might not be pinned to the top, but they're there.
In dark mode (on Chrome/Windows) it took me a while to realise that there was a Search function at all as the magnifying glass is so faint.
How about the word ‘search’ just to the left? 😉
get your point on the dark mode issue tho. It’s on the list. 🙂
Have e we done new threads taking ages to load? Just posted to chat forum, and it displayed it in thread view, but now cannot see it in forum view?
It's because of my ongoing campaign to resurect the coffee and cream colour scheme isn't it? You've set all my threads and posts to auto-delete....
Unable to post a laughing emoji as it appears of the top of the screen, then disappears of I scroll up .to it...
On the subject of search, it may require a bit of patience but it works! So a massive improvement on the old forum, which only ever returned irrelevant threads with spurious dates. Thanks chaps!
Just had this pop up, not the best [img] 
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My reply on endura thread not showing 8 mins and counting................... 😕
Edit: Yet this one shows up straight away
Can we have the ability to block specific posters, thus making political threads accessible once more? 🙂
Where are all the members? Reminds me of Björk It's oh so quiet
I liked it when the list of threads were ordered with those with the most recent posts at the top. That doesn't seem to happen anymore, can it be reinstated? It's not clear to me how they are ranked atm, it all feels a bit random.
I liked it when the list of threads were ordered with those with the most recent posts at the top. That doesn't seem to happen anymore, can it be reinstated? It's not clear to me how they are ranked atm, it all feels a bit random.
https://singletrackmag.com/forum/recent
How about the word ‘search’ just to the left? 😉
get your point on the dark mode issue tho. It’s on the list. 🙂
Using Chrome on a Android phone the word 'search' isn't displayed. There's an almost invisible dark grey on black magnifying glass, and a small white square box to the right of that. Which is obviously fine once you know it's there...
Thanks @Cougar I wasn't aware that was an option. Now bookmarked as my preferred way to access the forum. Maybe just me, but I do wonder why that isn't the default way to order threads. Also, it seems you can only view a mix of the forums in post order, what was the old 'overview'. I can't see a way of ordering just the posts in (for example,) the bike forum in post order?
This is trivia btw, the forum has improved massively in recent days and is mostly behaving well for me now. It is a little quieter, hopefully that will pick up when it's bedded in and the final styling and navigation improvements are implemented.
This is trivia btw, the forum has improved massively in recent days and is mostly behaving well for me now. It is a little quieter, hopefully that will pick up when it's bedded in and the final styling and navigation improvements are implemented.
There's a link at the top of the page to "Latest" that takes you to the link Cougar shared.
I think the posts in the Bike forum are sorted in the correct order, but it currently only shows when the thread was started, not when the last update was. So it'll say 6hrs ago, but that's when someone created it, rather than when someone replied to it.
EDIT: Actually the link there is on the desktop site, on mobile it's hidden in one of the 3 bar menus.
EDIT 2: Weird, it's quoting a different post to the one I chose...
Using this drop down list allows you to set your default.
I do wonder why that isn't the default way to order threads.
I don't know, but I suspect the approach is to throw up a random theme which broadly works whilst they work on the big problems, then to worry about making the font a brighter shade of blue &c once the foundations are solid.
Ie, it's a work in progress, I do not expect this to be the final product (and Mark has said as much a few times now).
The thumbs up "like" for posts is a bit hard to use, not least because its hard to see that it worked, little difference between black and blue outline, if it were an option a solid blue would work better - posting seems better, this posted at 11:40 EDIT, appeared immediately
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but is there a plan to have the "Last Reply Posted 12:45 26/2" (or whatever the format was) note added back to the thread title/summary on the forum overview page?
Appreciate that it tells you if there's a new post with a different colour icon, but currently just states the thread started date where it used to tell you the last reply date/time also.
The thumbs up "like" for posts is a bit hard to use, not least because its hard to see that it worked, little difference between black and blue outline, if it were an option a solid blue would work better
There's a thumbs up? Is it only me that can't see this?
I can see a couple of 'xxxx' reacted below posts, but no thumbs.
There's a thumbs up? Is it only me that can't see this?
I can see a couple of 'xxxx' reacted below posts, but no thumbs.
I suspect the thumbs up is only for paid members
Overview page thinks last post on chat and bike forums was ~11 hours ago.
I suspect the thumbs up is only for paid members
That's how it was, but I could always see how many folk had Liked a post, at present I can't even see that (although, as with branes, I can see so and so reacted beneath a post).
I'm liking the new forum, it seems much improved to me - thanks to all the team for the hard work.
One that I've just spotted and not seen reported is that photos seem to come up in a lightbox, but sometimes not the right photo.
For example in TJ's travel thread, the picture of the motorbike from the side comes up with a larger version fine. If I click the picture of TJ in the motorbike, it comes up with a larger picture of a green valley (possible defaulting to the first picture in the gallery of uploads?).
The FoD off-piste thread seems to have had multiple replies since mine.... but none are showing up.
I started a new thread a few hours ago. People are replying to it so they must be able to see it but the only way I can find it is to go to my profile and look at my posting history, it’s not showing in the forums at all!
I'm not seeing recent replies either
All this space under every post? is that by design? Looks bleedin awful
testing
Is it just something I am doing wrong but the search function doesn't work for me, it just times out!
Is it just something I am doing wrong but the search function doesn't work for me, it just times out!
Seems like we're slowly getting back to normal functionality then. 😁
There's one full-time and one part-time dev. It's good to flag things up but these things are going to take time. I use this:
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/search-the-current-site/jliolpcnkmolaaecncdfeofombdekjcp
Something I've just noticed,
The swear filter word list has been improved. On the old forum it would translate effed as *, now we get *ed which makes it far more readable.
Still needs a link to the overview at the botom of the forum IMO, but everything else seems good to me. I haven;t tried posting a photo yet though....
The topic icon next to a thread is flashing for me.
Exclamation mark and question mark i.e. not a flame etc
In messages (presume they're working now!)...
If you hit return it sends the message. I've just sent x3 half typed messages while trying do a return for a new line.
Shift + Return works but it's not intuitive.
👍
Well, that was unexpected. If you type three asterisks rather than **** it reads it as emphasis.
What I meant was, if you type effed then you get ****ed rather than ****.
If you hit return it sends the message.
...
Shift + Return works but it's not intuituve.
It's pretty standard behaviour across many platforms, but it's irritating I agree (It's the default behaviour in Facebook replies but Facebook posts is the opposite way around, I never did quite understand that). It really should be a configurable option. I tend to compose multi-paragraph messages in Notepad these days.
In messages (presume they're working now!)...
If you hit return it sends the message. I've just sent x3 half typed messages while trying do a return for a new line.
Shift + Return works but it's not intuitive.
Not a New Forum problem as the old one did the same, but it really would be great to have fixed.
I've got into the habit of doing <Shift><Return> on the desktop site but I've never had any luck getting something to work on Android (anyone know if it can be done?) so tend to write them in an email and paste it in.
There is one, it's a little harder to spot on mobile as it's just the icon, but it's there.
Cheers @versus
I give up trying to post a new topic. What a bag of shite
Delay in replies actually appearing. Currently 26 mins on the midweek picture thread, says I'm the most recent poster, but my 2 posts with photos ain't showing.
Also, the actual creating a post with photos is a bit cumbersome (on a Pixel 8). When the photos upload into reply box (massively over-sized), it then seems to be impossible to type back into the box, eg to add more words/explanation etc.
Hmm - that post ^^^ appeared instantly.
Replies on the MWRPT still not appearing
And another thing on posting photos ...
They end up appearing in some kind of random order! I select then and upload them in the order I've taken them (so first to last on a ride for example) but when they appear, it's in some kind of arse-about-tit order!
Not sure why? Maybe it's too do with the file size of the respective photos, so eg the smallest ends up being uploaded first, and then appearing first in the photo, and so on?
(It doesn't really matter much to anyone but me, as no one else - except a couple of local stalkers mates I ride with - will have any idea of which photos come from which point on my route! But, be nice if it could be added to the list to sort please).
Also, is there a tool that can be added to the photo selection process that gives you the option to reduce the file size? Some of my photos are over the 4.9MB limit, and I don't know how to resize them before uploading?
Ta though - forum is generally looking and working much better and faster.
Am I miss8mg how you subscribe to threads.?
I see there is a subscribe to topic tick box but that doesn’t seem to do anything. I tick it but then have to leave thread and when go back it’s still unticked?
Is the colour scheme here to stay? Not sure what it is about it, but I'm not drawn in to the forum. Or is it the layout? Hopefully I'm not whining, it's only cosmetic and might still be getting used to it - thought I'd ask.
Otherwise great work!