The photo would be appreciated by me too.
And water can get in anywhere tbh - cables, seat post and anywhere there's a bolt hole etc.
Schucks guys, just for you.
A 2.5mm hole in a bit of aluminium 😉
I was aiming to have it roughly at 6 o'clock when the bike is on its wheels. The drill may have wandered a bit.
It occurs to me now that I should have put the hole in between the chainstays because I store the bike hanging by the front wheel...(there is no hole in the BB to connect with the chainstays internally!)
Sugru sounds good for cable port filling.
Good thought about hanging the bike, me too.
Now I'm wondering where to put it...
Looking at brakes on ebay. Would 1400mm hose be long enough for rear on a xl frame?
I've put over 800 miles on my Scandal in the last 6 months. Before I rode it I put on a BrandX dropper and 2.6 tyres. Since then I've just cleaned an oiled it and it's been perfect in all weathers. I'm noticing the chain is starting to slip when I'm in the 11 tooth cog so I might need to adjust the rear mech or possibly get a new chain/cassette. I might swap the back wheel for a spare one I have so I can fit an XD cassette. If PlanetX get close enough to the £900 I paid again then I'd be tempted to get another one.
A friend has recently bought a scandal and I've said I'll help her set it up tubeless...
Does anyone know if the current Alex rims they ship with are taped?
If not,does anyone know the internal width for getting some tape ordered in please?
I know my fulcrums on the early batch of bikes weren't taped...and kind of expecting these not to be as well!
Mine weren't taped.
Is anyone tempted by this?
Currently £1699 with £300 off. Makes the scandal look over priced at the moment. I wonder if they will drop the £800 scandal frame price now this is out?
haha. that's a great name.
Vandal looks tempting, wonder what the rear tyre clearance is with a srtaight seat tube?
Does anyone know if the current Alex rims they ship with are taped?
Mine weren't, used peaty's 30mm tape
Thanks for the tape information, I should have updated this thread, we've just converted it to tubeless with vesa 30mm tape, worked a treat.
And the vandal...I like it, but not sure it warrants upgrading from my scandal!
Also noticed that the GX builds all ship with an SX cassette, very different piece of kit to the GX cassette that should ship with the new lunar GX groupset. Huge saving cost wise to planet x I imagine.
I guess that's one way to keep the prices a bit lower and most buyers won't notice it?
I wonder what the difference is in frame weight?
The vandal states
Frame Weight, Approx, (med) (g) TBD kg
With 2.6 inch tyres on my scandal I'm not sure id notice much from the frame but raw ti frames do look amazing!
And tbf to planet x and on one the paint has done really well on mine.
Has anyone set there scandal up single speed?
Wondering what tensioner setup would work best with the supplied mech hanger arrangement..single speed all a bit new to me!
Probably be using a gusset XD 1-ER cog/spacer setup...
Has anyone set there scandal up single speed?
Yes! When I first got mine I set it up SS with a DMR chain tensioner. I had a load of cogs, but coudln't find a magic gear so used the tensioner. Easy to setup and only takes a couple minutes. I was running 32x16. I did about 500 miles like that before I got bored.. SS isn't for me on such a capbable bike. It ws meant to be a pub/hack/winter bike but turns out it's fantastic. Sold the Cotic Solaris as this was better. Now running SLX groupset, brakes & Maxxis 2.6" minions. Fantastic bit of kit.
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Thanks for the reply - much appreciated.
Don't worry - my main scandal will stay sprung and geared...just toying with the idea of an ebay frame and build it SS and rigid with some parts I have.
I'd like a sliding dropout boost frame like a salsa timberjack or Pipedream Sirius S5 to keep it looking neat, but my budget isn't quite that high!
cokie - can you tell me about your tool/tube setup on the seat tube? It looks nice and neat and maybe includes a dry bag?
cokie – can you tell me about your tool/tube setup on the seat tube? It looks nice and neat and maybe includes a dry bag?
Sure- I never carry bags so everything has to be on the bike. I don't notice either setup being there. Mounted nice and low, out the way of mud and doesn't rub on anything.
Light setup, as pictured above, is the Wolf Tooth B-Rad strap. It's fantastic bit of kit. I've had it for years and uses bottle cage mounts. The scandal only has one set of cage mounts so I used 3 thick zipties and some black tape. It was solid and looked pretty neat.
My full setup is actually a Alp Kit top tube medium feed bag. This just uses velcro straps with a bit of tape to protect the frame. It has plenty of food, spares, tools & basic first aid. Again, mounts up solid and out of the way with no frame damage. It's waterproof too.
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Cokie, I see you too have your saddle rammed forward. Which Solaris did you have?
Cokie, I see you too have your saddle rammed forward. Which Solaris did you have?
The saddle rails are level- it's not rammed forward. Might be the angle it's been taken at.
I had a Solaris max longshot. The Scandal is a much better bike.
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The Scandal is a much better bike.
Interesting. What do you think the Scandal is better (not disagreeing, just interested)?
Back in stock and discounted.
Frame only £799 or full build £999 🤣
SRAM sx and rockshox 35s. That's pretty good value.
Aluminium gx scandal £1399 and ti scandal gx £1699. Just £300 more!
Those prices seem so odd
799 for just a frame, then an extra 200 for a full build?
And is an sx to gx upgrade worth an extra £400?
They dont WANT you to buy a frame for £799. They want you to buy a full bike.
They have enough build kits to sell full bikes. When they were £150, they had containers full of frames and no parts...
Anyone ordered a Vandal ?
Anyone ordered a Vandal ?
No, but I've considered it. I'd like a review first.
I'm pondering a Vandal, GX Whippet or GX Scandal.
Hi all
I have a quick question…during the initial phase of the Scandal release, half the forum bought Rockshox Rebas from Alltricks.
Did the forks come with spare volume reducers*? I’ve suddenly figured out how to ride the Scandal and in need of some progression in the fork travel.
*just being lazy and asking on here before trying to find them
Cheers
Has anyone set there scandal up single speed?
Wondering what tensioner setup would work best with the supplied mech hanger arrangement..single speed all a bit new to me!
Probably be using a gusset XD 1-ER cog/spacer setup…
I've done just this with a surly singulator.
My only slight concern is the XD 1-ER puts the sprocket on the threads like an old fashioned hub. Whereas SRAM put the cassette on the splined section and the threads are only intended for the lockring. It's not a fixed/singlespeed thread either, it's a metric one.
I felt it give a couple of times on the first hill which was disconcerting as it tightened up, but it's not stripped.
For fulltime singlespeed it's probably very good as you can change ratios using the disk mount rather than having to remove the XR 1ER. Those sprockets are cheap from velosolo too.
@mtbqwerty don't think so as I ended up buying a couple.
Timely thread bump, as I rode mine this week for the first time in months, enjoyed it and ended up doing a good 4 hour ride. Kept thinking about selling at times but for what little it cost me I reckon I'd be daft to. Will come into its own more in the winter I hope.
@snotrag bother! Cheers though
I know what you’re saying, I often look at fancier HT frames to upgrade to, ride it then wonder why
Winter fun is what keeps me going when it gets chilly…go out, get muddy as hell, quick rinse and repeat.
I just got a 20% off code (BTRT20) by email valid until Sunday 3/10/21. The Vandal is included and is already on promotion at £1499 with free delivery, so I decided to order one. Total paid £1199. I paid £925 for my Scandal (1,600 miles on it so far) last year so it seemed like an eqivalent deal. As last time though there still another £200+ required to sort out tyres, pedals, and a dropper.
I got the email too late - the large has now sold out - gutted! at 180cm with a 33inch inside leg am I too big for a medium??
I received my XL Vandal and have added a some decent tyres, pedals and a 200mm dropper. I took it for a 35 mile XC ride yesterday and really enjoyed it. I think it is a little lighter than my XL Scandal, but I'll weigh them to check when I next spot the luggage scales. I really like it. Seems to have a bit more spring than the Scandal, but that could be new vs old forks and different 2.6 tyres. I like the fact that the Vandal is longer as I have quite long arms. I also like the shorter, lower seat tube that allows me to run a 200mm dropper rammed all the way in. The only downside to the extra length is that I didn't find it quite as good when climbing a steep section. Overall I think it was worth the £300 premium I over the Scandal. I'm keeping both anyway as I like them better than all my other bikes past and present.
Scandal currently £999 but with 10% off. Buy yourself an early Christmas present
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I have a medium Scandal and medium Big Dog
The most noticable difference offroad is that the Dog doesn't try to lift on very steep uphills. Not sure if it's the extra chainstay length or steeper ST, Both I suppose
Interesting, I wonder if that was deliberate or just a result of what could be formed from each material to hit the price points (I'm assuming forming the big yoke on the scandal is significantly cheaper than trying to replicate it in steel).
Seat angle is a red herring as the scandal has a big kink in it and with the reach and HA the same people will be able to set their seat similarly.
For those wanting to put a bigger disc on the back, I found the uberbike pm 160 to Shimano 203 works without needing to modify it.
Uberbike Post to Post PM6/160mm Direct Mount to 203mm Disc Brake Adapter
Thanks, and I just came to the thread to search brake adaptors as I was trying a 180 on mine and couldn't get any of the various ones I've got to line up without lots of faff.
Just ordered the 160-180 version, I think my others are 180-203...
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBOOSCSX/on-one-scandal-sram-sx-mountain-bike
£799 seems like a bit of a deal at the moment.
£799 for rochshox Judy silver and sx
£999 for rockshox 35s and nx
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/YBOOSCGX/on-one-scandal-sram-gx-mountain-bike
Considering the frame is £499 but has ranged between £150 and £799 it's a pretty good deal.
Just ordered the 160-180 version, I think my others are 180-203…
Bu99er, same as the ones I already had.
And after another hour of faffing, can't see how to get the caliper mounted 'square' to the rotor face with any of the various adaptors I've got...
Has anyone actually managed to mate up the Guide RE brake that came on the Scandal with a 180 rotor, and which adaptor did you use?
I'm running shimano xt with 180 rear rotor with zero issues
I might just junk the SRAM Guide RE, as I've a pair of Formula R1's on an old bike.
So, after buying a frame 18 months ago, I've finally got around to building it. Took me so long due to cash flow, slow procurement of parts and prevarication due to it being my first build. In the end it flew together in a couple of hours with zero issues and I'm really chuffed with it. A budget build from a mix of new and second hand parts, SLX 11 speed drivetrain, SLX brakes and 130mm travel Reba forks. Not pushed it yet and need to fiddle with the ergonomics etc, but it rides brilliantly. I can see the full sus getting neglected for a while.
tidy. i really fancy one but I'm a total fancy arsed roadie now
i really fancy one but I’m a total fancy arsed roadie now
Do it! You're obviously not a complete lost cause if you opened this thread! 😉 It's all cycling, it's all good 🙂
Hey! I bought one of these frames last week. Raw in size XL. Really looking forward to having a bike that is actually my size. Switching from an Inbred 26" I've had a few years 🙂
What I wonder is, how long is the threaded part of the rear axle? Frame didn't come with one, planetx don't sell a replacement and I can't find more info other than it's 169mm long and 12mm diam.
I need a nut as well, yes? First time using axles. Only used QR before.
Who's upgraded the wheels on theirs? What did you go for?
I haven't ridden for a year or so, but remember the Formula hubbed wheels being pretty duff.
Struggling with the specs, AFAICS it's 6 bolt, 110x15 Boost F, 148x12 Boost R, XD hub body?
Mine is the GX Eagle bike with RS 35 Gold.
What I wonder is, how long is the threaded part of the rear axle? Frame didn’t come with one, planetx don’t sell a replacement and I can’t find more info other than it’s 169mm long and 12mm diam.
I need a nut as well, yes? First time using axles. Only used QR befor
You don't change the nut as that's part of the dropout. Generally, you buy an axle of the correct (or longer) length, with the correct thread pitch for the frame. The thread length doesn't really matter because you don't bottom it out.
I can't remember it off the top of my head but there are definitely a couple of people on previous pages that have either swapped to a Maxle, or swapped to a brand-x axle as the OEM On-One uses a large Allen key that you won't have on a multitool.
Struggling with the specs, AFAICS it’s 6 bolt, 110×15 Boost F, 148×12 Boost R, XD hub body?
Mine is the GX Eagle bike with RS 35 Gold.
Double-check the cassette, not all of the later formula wheel'd bikes had GX cassettes with XD drivers, later ones had NX cassettes and a HG freehub.
148 BOOST M12 x 1.75, 12mm thread, 169mm
I think the Scandal has a Whitworth 8mm hex hole, as only one of my Allen keys fits it.
Pretty sure mine is HG/NX and came with the rest being GX and RS35s.
I found a ZTTO axle that fitted but was made of cheese so the 6mm started to round off. I've been running the 142mm brand X lever option. It's not boost but the same length so works in as much as I've not died or had a catastrophic failure yet.
Double-check the cassette, not all of the later formula wheel’d bikes had GX cassettes with XD drivers, later ones had NX cassettes and a HG freehub.
Cheers. Haven't seen the bike for months, it's stashed in a lockup somewhere so I'll dig her out and have a look. Come to think of it, it may have the basic Fulcrum wheels, it'd be a late 2019 bike
Hi,
I need to replace the bearings in my scandal headset.
Just wondering if anyone has found a good source of bearings?
Its got the standard Selcof headset it came with which is ok
Website states
This headset is an ideal replacement for the FSA Orbit 1.5 ZS 57
- SHIS specification ZS44/28.6 ZS56/40
- Bearing sizesUpper: TH MR122 1 1/8TH 36X45Lower: TH MR127 1.5 36X45
Thanks
If in doubt email PX, I did for the Silk Road frame I bought a couple of weeks ago. Mentioned I was looking at hope headsets, got a reply in less than an hour with spec, hope part numbers and links to the correct hope headsets (not sold by PX so links to Wiggle).
TBH I just took the old one into my LBS and got a replacement - no idea of spec etc.
Anyone sold their scandal and bought a vandal?
Currently £1100 for a scandal with 35s and maybe a further 10% off when you sign up to the newsletter if the discounts stack.
Selling an orange medium scandal frame in vgc If anyone’s looking for one….
If it was a large I would be interested. Brant was right the XL is bloody huge and at 6'3" I can't even fit a Brand X dropper post as even fully inserted it is 2" too high at full extension for my saddle height.
Shame as the bike rides well but my plumbs are resting painfully on the top tube when stopped 🙁
@MrOvershoot I'm 6ft3 and the XL is perfect for me. You must have larger plumbs than me 🤣
Or shorter legs
I'm finally building up my XL, bought over two years ago. I'm 6'4", and surprised how similar it's coming out to the XL 26" 2011ish Rockhopper I'm currently on. Bit longer, but TT, stack and BB roughly the same height. Front wheel is way out in front, but the chainstay length is about the same due to the Scandal's bent seat tube. I certainly wouldn't want it any smaller.
I’m on the lookout for an XL Big Dog or Scandal frame (L turns out to be too small) - seem pretty rare second hand, or even from Plant X 😀
First ride out on the vandal today.
Changed a few parts. Well almost everything. Did use the headset and the stem.
New saddle and bars ordered the rest is up for sale
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I've almost a Yard of inseam and a Large with a 200mm dropper (and still 50mm showing below the collar) suits me fine - you lot on XL's must be basketball players and the like.
@thereturner do you want to swop your large for an XL?
@MrOvershoot do you want to swop your xl for a large?
Could be a plan!
In case anyone else needs it. A picture of the Headset bearings below. Best picture I can do.
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Rockshox Judy Silver TK 29 and SRAM SX Eagle group set. Perfect winter bike.
I'd save up and get the GX one as the SX on my old Whippet was horrendous. Good price mind you.
Can someone with a medium please measure this distance inside the frame?
Exactly 55cm
How compliant is the Scandal frame? Don't want to buy if its too stiff. Would go Ragley big Al otherwise
Feels the same as my BFEMAX, smooth but not noodly
How compliant is the Scandal frame?
It's a great ride.... I've got mine on reasonably big tyres (2.5 & 2.4) so a bit more give but even on smaller ones it's not harsh.
I barely ride my full suss ATM as the Scandal is such a pleasure.
Anyone got a recommendation for a replacement cassette? The NX 11-51 is a bit lardy!!
It's a comfy bike.
It's the one that finally confirmed to me that an obsession with hardtails having to be steel, was outdated.
Mine got sold in Spring and surprise surprise, now its getting wintery I'm missing it.
@snotrag
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I've got 3 sets of wheels for my Whippet that I swap around.
Was so impressed with the plus wheels in the mud last year that I'm swapping all the bits off my fatty to build up a scandal.
Was going to do an e conversion but there's no way it would fit and it's too nice for that.
Just waiting for cranks to start building it up.
Just wondering if in lieu of funds for a dream 29” build buying this as a parts donor for the dream frame and forks is a way of keeping the budget down ? Then just upgrade anything I don’t like later?
Or is it funny hub and bb standards ?
That front brake adapter looks funny, but no way it is in correct position or the right one.
