[Closed] The Machine!! Pole bike content!

Say what, this is machined from a solid block of aluminium?

Is that not incredibly wasteful?

I’d guess they would say the off cuts can be recycled into more bikes!

You have bought one?

shermer75 - Member
You have bought one?

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Goodness no mate!! I’d be murdered!! 😆 plus I’ve got my heart set on a Geometron having seen them at Ard rock in the summer should I ever manage to accumulate enough pennies!

Much like those cast Empire frames, this seems to be a solution in search of a problem.

The new Pole Machine also comes paint free, to reveal the CNC markings from the manufacturing process. Pole claims that because the 7075 surface is so hard it’s not prone to scratches and wear, and the oxidation process of the frame over time will add a unique patina.

Riiight....

*backs slowly away*

Bonding sucks.... Until they've been ridden by real riders for a couple of years I wouldn't touch it with a barge-......

Auto correct ( and my ineptness ) has murdered my first post! 🙄

I’m interested in the bonding but if it’s all cut from one block what’s to bond to what? The front triangle could be all one bit, same with the stays?

It is pictured with an external dropper. I'm out

That downtube is bloody long for internal "precise control of wall thickness". Would like a look at this one up close

A bit old had technology wise that cnc machining. 3D printing where it's at shirley?

if it’s all cut from one block what’s to bond to what?

I'm more impressed with how they manage to machine the bearings in

3D printing where it's at shirley

This doesn't look a million miles away from the empire/renishaw titanium bike. Make sections, rely on very fine tolerance of joints to give you something to get a really good bond between the sections

[i]Riiight....

*backs slowly away* [/i]

My Liteville had a raw finish, it oxidised a bit, polished a little where there was any heel rub but it really didn't scratch.

Well on the one hand, 7075 is a very strong aluminium alloy. On the other hand, bonding sucks. Wouldn't spend my own money on one unless I've had very close look at their engineering details.

I’m interested in the bonding but if it’s all cut from one block what’s to bond to what

It's hollow though innit. Possibly two halves bonded together?

Jon Taylor - Member
On the other hand, bonding sucks.

it doesn't really though does it? What generally sucks is the process control for actually doing the bonding

On the other hand, bonding sucks.

better never get on a plane then 🙂 they are basically glued together !

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I rather like the look of the Bike I'd give it a go, even if it does have gears and boingy bits

See, I know that about planes but I don't like to see it written down.

I hope Kryten57 doesn't stumble upon this thread.

Bonding aluminium makes more sense then welding a lot of the time.

See, I know that about planes but I don't like to see it written down.

I'd best not tell you about the investigations I've been involved in, where the cockpit or cabins suddenly fill with toxic fume then. There are certain makes of plane you'd never get me on again having seen how shoddily bits of them are put together!

While I'm somewhat skeptical about the environmental issues around machining from billet I really like that. Whether you can hold tolerance on a thin walled section to keep alignment once you've machined the heart out of it I'd be very interested to see but whatever happens to it, it ought to at least be repeatable.

I've no issues with bonding at all. So long as the conditions are well controlled it's a very robust jointing method that doesn't adversely effect the material properties in any way.

Loving the close ups:-

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Really like that - would love a go even if I think it'd be a bit too long for me.

7075..... what that patina eventually turns into

they should have gone all flax hemp and bioresin if they wanted to make a statement about the eco system

btw did you know you can do Adhesive-free metal to composite bonding its the new big thing in hypercar manufacturing.....and they go reeet fast

Looks nice enough to me, I'd have a go.

All very well talking about bonded Aerospace and F1 stuff but what about bicycles? Well my Raleigh Dynatech Ogre XT (about 1990ish) was Ti tubes bonded into lugs and that didn't fall apart

Then my almost as old Pace RC200 has machined unpainted aluminium box section. It's still in the shed, could do with a polish but hasn't crumbled to oxide dust yet

Machining it all does sound an expensive way to manufacture though

Does look nice, but I'll stick with my geometron which is basically the same, but manufactured a more traditional way.

they should have gone all flax hemp and bioresin

yeah but how "bio" is that bioresin?

What you need to do is a grow a tree into a bike shaped mould.

btw did you know you can do Adhesive-free metal to composite bonding

greyspoke - Member

A bit old had technology wise that cnc machining. 3D printing where it's at shirley?

When I was playing with the titanium printed Empire (doing wheelies in an exhibition hall at work) I asked about the real world cost, they said "well materials wise it's the cheapest way to make a titanium bike but the machine time is the most expensive." The machines cost a fortune, a full load of titanium dust costs about a million quid, and any time they're making publicity stunt mountain bikes they're not making bits of planes and satellites and such

I could 3d print a bike, but it'd most likely snap the first time you rode it, and also it'd melt at 60 degrees.

yeah but how "bio" is that bioresin?

glossing over the finer points is an industry thing , facts are generally unimportant unless accompanied by a sensationalized slant