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The trailcross goretex has finally released
£150 so £20 more than the regular trailcross
Seems reasonable for a goretex shoe with mountain bike in the name
Nice, bar the price.
That could be my Christmas present sorted
Shame it looks like an Adidas trainer and not a 5 Ten!
No stock at Adidas yet. Do Scotby really have them?
Sign of the endtimes!
"Midsole cutouts to allow water to drain from the shoe and quicker drying"
What does that really mean? Are there literal holes in them or is it something internal just to allow the water to get out once it inevitably gets in?
I'm guessing and hoping that's a copy paste mistake from the non-Goretex version.
Though these notches are on both
https://www.adidas.ie/five-ten-trailcross-lt-mountain-bike-shoes/EE8889.html
Great, another ****ing shoe that fails to resemble the human foot. The human race really is as thick as pig shit.
Eh, it just looks like a trainer with a sock attached? I mean, that's pretty much what it is, but, what's so bad about the shape?
Another non-waterproof shoe with a delicate goretex bootie that will rip around the toebox and laugh off any futile attempts to 'fix' it with reproofing spray!
Not many alternatives for this type of shoe, but I've switched to proper leather winter cycling boots and walking boots that just need waxing.
I designed the perfect uk boot, but haven’t done anything about it. Like all my other great ideas it will remain in my head till someone else does it, and then I moan a lot to myself.
The one x two seating arrangement of the Maclaren F1 still smarts.
Scotby have had them on the website since they were announced a couple of years ago. They do appear to have some very limited stock though.
I can’t find them on the Adidas site though.
Great, another **** shoe that fails to resemble the human foot. The human race really is as thick as pig shit.
It looks like a foot shape... what do you mean ?
Shame it looks like an Adidas trainer and not a 5 Ten!
This is a good thing actually. There are enough 5 Ten looking shoes around, we don't need any more.
For those of us who liked the way old 5-10s fit (I have fat feet and not much else fits), it has been a real shame to see Adidas change the last in the new 5-10s.
I would have to size up so much on the trail cross model to get enough width that it would look like I'm wearing clown shoes.
My Trail Cross Mids are a size smaller than my Freerider Pros and EPS high. The lacing and flexibility of material makes them much easier to adjust for wide feet (or thicker/thinner socks).
For those of us who liked the way old 5-10s fit (I have fat feet and not much else fits), it has been a real shame to see Adidas change the last in the new 5-10s.
The Terrex / Trail Cross were branded Adidas originally just with stealth rubber, now they all come under 5:10 banner. I had the problem of original canvas (for want of a better word) 5:10s not fitting well but Trail Cross do. The rest of my family use canvas 5:10s and recent ones I bought are pretty much same fit as they have always been. Pros a little different.
Great, another **** shoe that fails to resemble the human foot.
And what shape do you think human feet are?
You can still get 25% off codes for ordering via the Adidas app and I think if you log in as a student you get 30% off. The discounts stacked last time I tried this.
And what shape do you think human feet are?
Feet are forced to take the shape of shoes rather than allowed to be foot shaped. The toes are supposed to be the widest part of the foot.
If someone suddenly suggested that we start putting soft baby skulls in square hats and continued to do so until adults all had square heads, it would be called barbaric.
Designed with Bike Packing in mind
Really?
I had the previous two models of the adidas trailcross, got around 2 years out of each pair. I do about 5-6k a year. I got 3 months out of freeriders. I now have the 5 10 version so fingers crossed for the same longevity. First impressions are good. A goretex pair sounds good to me
^something like that.
I have no doubt that the new Adidas-ified 5-10s will fit some people's feet better. Feet come in different shapes and sizes and I am not keen on trying to squash mine into something that doesn't fit/isn't wide enough in the toe box.
I've tried all the new 5-10/adidas models on and for me the fit is much worse. I have a couple of nearly-new old-stype freerider elements (the other option for somewhat-waterproof) that I will wear until they die. At that point, I'm hoping someone else will have sufficiently sticky rubber that I can switch.
As a climber, I've been wearing 5-10s since the mid 90s and I know a lot of folk who have abandoned the company post-adidas for the same reasons.
Feet are forced to take the shape of shoes rather than allowed to be foot shaped. The toes are supposed to be the widest part of the foot.
Eh... the widest bit of my feet is the knuckles right where shoes bulge out the taper in.
And all my toes are straight... actually now i look at them, they're pretty attractive feet.
Sign of the endtimes!
“Midsole cutouts to allow water to drain from the shoe and quicker drying”
What does that really mean? Are there literal holes in them or is it something internal just to allow the water to get out once it inevitably gets in?
I used run my non-waterproof shoes in the winter sans footbed/liner so that water that gets in will drain straight through the cleat holes with minimal stuff to absorb water. Not sure in this case they mean that though. Since I swapped to shimano's winter boots though thats not a choice.
Eh… the widest bit of my feet is the knuckles right where shoes bulge out the taper in.And all my toes are straight… actually now i look at them, they’re pretty attractive feet.
This is what Onzadog is talking about, the natural shape of the foot is different from what we think it is, because we all grew up wearing shoes that changed the shape from what it should be, to what we now see as normal.
...which means that making shoes not that shape is now daft because they don't fit.
Also, while it's a pretty popular argument, there's a very good counterargument that actually feet work fine in "shoe shape" and shoes work better that way. We're a shoe-wearing species by and large, obsessing about what our feet "should" be doing if we didn't wear shoes is a bit pointless. For practically everyone, having a shoe-shaped foot is no problem.
It's mostly a way of selling expensive shoes
This is what Onzadog is talking about...
I'm skeptical of any science on a website designed to sell me a cure for that "problem", sorry
I understand its just a photo but...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_footprints_of_Acahualinca
Ignoring the 6th toe on the top foot print those toes (at the time they're under pressure so would be spreading away from one another) don't look any wider than the ball of that foot, the widest part of which is not in contact with the floor generally?
You can still get 25% off codes for ordering via the Adidas app and I think if you log in as a student you get 30% off. The discounts stacked last time I tried this.
Have you actually tried this recently? The last few times I tried, the codes weren't valid for 5-10 shoes.
Same here. And those boots aren’t currently available on the adidas website or app anyway.
@doomanic - yep, tried today. They don't stack though so 30% off with the student discount is best.
Designed with Bike Packing in mind
Canny be, they've no daft looking bags attached to them.
That's not a bikepacking sole. At least not for my bikepacking. Still might give them a go for other riding though.
Feet are forced to take the shape of shoes rather than allowed to be foot shaped. The toes are supposed to be the widest part of the foot.
If someone suddenly suggested that we start putting soft baby skulls in square hats and continued to do so until adults all had square heads, it would be called barbaric.
You still haven't got over ballet school then 😉
They're properly waterproof:
Arrived today, usual shoe size fits well.
Few sizes still in stock at Tweeks.
Still not on the adidas site, listed on leisure lakes and je james now.
Can’t be long, model no is S29146
Picked some up from Scotby. As discussed they are very narrow at the front so I had to size up. This means there is a big gap from the end of my toe to the end of the shoe.
Despite the narrow shoe, the ankle cuff is very loose and won't synch down enough to not be baggy around my ankle. So they appear to be designed for people with long thin clown feet but fat ankles! I am normally a 12 in addidas, but needed a 13.5. The proportions may differ at smaller sizes.
They were reasonably waterproof in the showers today, but I have put my foot in a puddle to see if the drains do let water in! I suspect in pouring rain gaiters may be needed to stop water getting in through the baggy cuff.
Thanks for the info minus, I’m undecided what size to get
I have the low version in a 9 for summer and fit fine with a regular sock, I have the mid in a 9.5 which are too big unless I have a sealskinz sock on ,
Hopefully appear on adidas soon and I’ll get both sizes
I got a pair of these last year, not the gtx version, obviously.
They look far too "special". The GF laughed at me. Cg prefer the look of the Freerider.
Last time It rained enough whilst I was away from home I had to walk a stream that'd suddenly appeared from nowhere. At the other side I had to take shoes and socks off, dry my feet and put my spare waterproof socks on, then my goretex boots, because both shoes and socks were wet inside.
Goretex boots are okay,but goretex socks win every time.
Finally listed on adidas, 30% codes from vouchercodes are working,
£105 delivered
Very happy .. didn’t expect that
Arrived today, usual shoe size fits well.
I'm retracting that.
Tried them around the house for a longer while and thought I should try half a size up for volume and width.
Originally got my usual size, which was also correct according to the size guide by foot length. Quite a struggle to get my foot through the cuff, and a snug fit once in. They would have done fine, but I did wonder how long the cuff would last that sort of stretching.
The UK8.5 is 4mm longer than which is a tiny bit too much; I think in a lower and/or stiffer shoe it would be too much, certainly for walking use due to heel lift. But the cuff is just enough bigger, and inside they're a bit wider and have more volume. Better fit for me. I'll call them a relaxed fit, but not loose. That's for normal not-thin sports socks, slightly warm socks, or all-season Sealskinz.
Not had any Five Ten shoes before to provide relative comparison.
Mine arrived last week, and I've put them to use straightaway with some days riding in Graubunden.
I have had five ten impacts before. My biggest complaint of them was that they took and retained water like a sponge, even just from riding through puddles.
My most recent shoes have been Shimano GR9, which have a lace flap which does a reasonable job at keeping water out. Sadly they haven't lasted 6 months so I'm trying to get some warranty help from Bikester / Shimano.
And so I have bought these new GoreTex Five Tens. I should have bought next size up, but they're not so bad. They don't look as gaeky on my feet at the do the the photos. General construction is pretty good, with the neoprene ankle well attached to the shoe. The uppers are quite rigid, which means that the laces need some attention to get the correct tension lower down my foot.
I don't think these boots are quite are grippy as my previous shoes. I'm not sure why, but it feels like the rounded edges to the sole don't offer the same support. They're ok for walking in though.
My biggest complaint is there they're not very breathable. My feet are wet even on 'dry' rides, and are white and wizened when I remove my shoes. This is not a problem I have had with GoreTex trail running shoes from Solomon, or with GoreTex hiking shoes from Scarpa. I wouldn't normally say I have hot and sweaty feet, but then neither do they got cold easily in winter.
Perhaps they'll be better for proper wet rides and for cooler days, but so far underwhelming. 2/5.
@the00, what sort of temperatures have you been wearing them in?
I've received a pair but yet to wear them. Had hoped they'd be suitable for year-round use in Scotland but yours aren't the first comments I've read about them being quite a warm shoe. I'm wondering if I'll be better sticking to some TrailCross Mids for year-round use, and adding some decent waterproof socks for wet rides.
They look and feel very good though. More robust feeling that the Mids having less mesh on show.
It was between 2 and 18 degrees C this week. Roughly comparable to a Scottish summer 😜
I'm a 46 in normal shoes so I ordered 47s to allow some sock room but they are tight across the shoe with just everyday "trekking" type socks, never mind winter thickies. I've requested an exchange for 48s but they'll look like clown shoes. I should be a 46 according to the measurement chart, I must have especially wide feet.
I was also hoping they'd be year round shoes to replace my 5-10 EPS.
Adidas have been known for ages to make v small shoes. I'm normally EU44, but regularly have to go up one or two sizes for adidas
have had a non-goretex pair for a while - really pleased with them - sizing was the same as I usually wear.
Has anyone bought these who also have the standard pair? Am just wondering if I'll need to size up
i'm a UK9 in the majority of shoes, I'm a 9 in the trailcross low shoe (summer socks), a 9.5 in the standard Mid boot (fits 1 thin & 1 regular merino socks or sealskinz) , although i reckon a 1/2 size down for one pair of socks in summer,
i've decided to keep the UK10 in the goretex,
the 9.5 had no wiggle room and felt a little tight across the instep with a thick merino sock,
I'm sure it would have broken in a little, the uk10 is big at the toe, but foot feels stable..
and i'll only use winter..
@stevemorg2, I've got the Goretex and standard Mid boot here at the moment. The feel equally sized to me, although I sized up from a UK11 to 11.5 for these compared to my normal footwear size after measuring my foot length and going off Adidas' size guide.
Wouldn't be STW without a reply contradicting one directly above 🙂
And thanks @the00 for earlier reply - that's pure ****in' tropical temps here in Scotland.
I'm not wearing mine til it's actually winter- I don't see them as allrounders at all. Breathable can only do so much.
Gave these their biggest test yet yesterday, in combination with waterproof trousers with tight-ish ankle cuffs, and non-waterproof socks. It was a joy to not even think about avoid puddles, and to just hose everything down at the end and leave them to drip dry.
Still got the rear bottom half of my socks damp, as I half-expected, just about enough to feel the coldness after a couple of hours. The cuff of course isn't totally waterproof as it opens up with velcro. Once water gets in the top due to upsplash, socks just wick it all the way down.
According to old STW wisdom, the next step seems to be putting some cut-off kitchen marigold gloves over the top of the neoprene cuff.
Mine too got a their first test today, and I was super disappointed. In combination with shorts they just filled with water from front wheel spray, and stayed full.
Shimano MT9 were better but fell apart.
Giro Terraduro have been good, but for SPD.
I got a set and though the fir is OK it is definitely snug compared to my Freerides. The sole is definitely less grippy as well. Having said that wearing them with long riding trousers means they don't fill up with water!
I've actually found the fit is more generous that expected having read this thread and wish I hadn't gone a half size up. They're definitely just a winter shoe for me as the narrower design of them means they dont fit all that well on my burgtec pedals so you have to be really careful otherwise you get foot slippage. The sole is also more flexible compared to my impact pros so on anything technical I get foot cramps. They didnt withstand decathlon trousers and a fast as possible in soaking wet conditions grandad dad and the dentist. Took about 5 days to try them out as once the waters in, its in!
Had mine on their first spin yesterday. It wasn't raining but there was plenty of standing water\mud from heavy overnight rain. was wearing long trousers that went over the neoprene cuffs. Happy to report dry feet at the end of the spin. I was wearing light socks and they felt perfect temp wise on a reasonably mild day and room enough for heavier socks. Nowhere near as warm as my Vaude Moab boots which are definitely winter only (and a brilliant waterproof winter boot). I thought the grip from the sole was perfect. Very happy with the purchase assuming they don't fall apart. Nothing suggests they will as they seem well put together. Bought for €120 (with 20% off adidas new customer code) which I think is a reasonable price for a solid piece of wet weather footwear).
Does everyone know that the Five Ten logo is both a 5 and a 10? I didn't until my 3 year old pointed it out....
A number of the guys I ride with have bought these, all happy except one.
We don't really know what he's doing, apart from getting wet feet on the same ride we're not - but that comment from "the00" made me wonder "has the unhappy one got a front fender?". And I can't remember.
Got to agree with this:
Mine too got a their first test... and I was super disappointed. In combination with shorts they just filled with water from front wheel spray, and stayed full.
and this ( apart from the naming of the 3 Witches of course 🙂 )
They didnt withstand .... a fast as possible in soaking wet conditions grandad dad and the dentist. Took about 5 days to try them out as once the waters in, its in!
For the first third of my ride my feet were dryer than everyone's else's. For the middle third they were just as wet as everyone else's. For the last bit everyone else's feet were starting to dry out a bit and mine were still like sloshing about in goldfish bowls full of water.
Bearing in mind that this was on a day with ZERO precipitation, I didn't really see the point of them. Have kept them in the hope that they work well on dry cold days with the very occasional puddles.
Mine too got a their first test today, and I was super disappointed. In combination with shorts they just filled with water from front wheel spray, and stayed full.
Feel like I’m stating the obvious here, but anyway, really? You are disappointed/shocked/surprised that the big hole at the top let water gravitate downwards into the shoe? 🤦♂️
I’ve worn mine a few times now, in both the rain & aftermath, my feet have been dry, but I you know, wear them with trousers that cover the top. It’s almost miraculous the water doesn’t run down my leg & straight into the shoe 😆
They aren’t as good as the new Spec’ shoes in terms of grip, but they are still decent. They are a good addition to the winter wardrobe.
They look just like my Ruccanor windsurfing boots circa 1979
Yeah what Hob-Nob said, but I've found them to be really grippy and now using them for pretty much every ride rather than my freeride pros.
IME any waterproof footwear be that socks, shoes or overshoes suffers when water runs down the legs.
My goretex 5:10s have been all good after the first outing with them. I was wearing shorts as it wasn't raining but there were plenty of puddles. The tops of the socks I was wearing ended up getting wet (they were above the neoprene ankle) which then soaked in to the rest of the socks and into the shoes. Since then I have worn them with trousers and made sure the socks are below the ankle cuff and they've kept my feet dry even in a heavy downpour.
Does everyone know that the Five Ten logo is both a 5 and a 10? I didn’t until my 3 year old pointed it out….
Oh yeah... No I hadn't noticed that and I've owned FiveTens since before they made bike shoes! I'm not sure if that's my failing or theirs TBH. Either way your 3yo is a smart one.
Would ankle gaiters help deflect some spray away from the top of the boots?
Agree with @golfchick, there's a bit odd size wise, long enough in prob a normal size but quite narrow. I've worn mine a few times (not raining but wet) and so far feet stayed dry. Grip seems okay as well.
I am wearing MTB trousers for the first time this year and I'm sure that makes a massive difference. Not tried the shoes with a waterproof sock, might be a bit of an issue getting foot past the cuff.
Defo warm enough for now, Another Vaude Moab user her for the grim. Going into their third winter.
The tops of the socks I was wearing ended up getting wet (they were above the neoprene ankle) which then soaked in to the rest of the socks and into the shoes.
Cotton socks?
Cotton socks?
Just some normal Adidas sport socks. Wearing the same ones folded down under the cuffs and with trousers on has been fine.
Starting to consider a pair of waterproof flat shoes. Very curious to hear from anyone who has both the Trailcross and the Vaud Moabs:
- grip
- how warm
- durability (too soon?)
Wearing the same ones folded down under the cuffs ....
resulted pretty quickly in bleeding shins for me.
The Moab is a beast of a shoe, Far more material (and so a lot heavier) the the trail cross. It's a bit of a mission to get your feet in sometimes if they are cold, I always leave mine by the radiator, quite a stiff material esp compared to the 5-10s, but
Grip - good no issue at all. Maybe not quite 'stealth' but since I'm using the in horrible muddy conditions and my feet stay on the pedals, I'm calling them good enough. It's quite a stiff sole which doesn't help but I really don't remember losing my feet in two years of filthy riding.
Warm - toasty 🙂 As they are waterproof (and they really are, I've ridden through rivers) once your feet are warm they stay warm. I sometimes run a 'double socker' when it's really (sub zero) cold. And I do suffer from cold feet but the moabs will keep your warm through winter. Bit to warm for now.
Durability - just looked at mine. Apart from being caked in last years mud they look unmarked. Sole still has plenty on it, just a few pin marks but no sign of that 5-10 collapse you get. Uppers look absolutely fine, laces, velcro etc ready to do battle with another winter.
They are also ethically sourced. I'm a big fan as you can tell.
Too narrow. Nowhere for my big toes to go on those.
Old Five Tens were much wider.
Any more reports on the Vaude vs Trailcross thing?
Moving to Switzerland in a week, will cycle to work daily on the first 2 months through the worst of winter there, so have one week to decide if I invest in a pair of waterproofs and which ones.
Thanks!
Feel like I’m stating the obvious here, but anyway, really? You are disappointed/shocked/surprised that the big hole at the top let water gravitate downwards into the shoe? 🤦♂️
Yes, after all the fanfare and excitement about these, I'd kind if assumed there was something special about them to justify the astronomical price. I've owned numerous kayaking drycags and drysuits that dealt quite comprehensively with the various big holes by providing a decent waterproof seal. If a drysuit can cope with extended actual emersion in huge waterpressures then I don't reckon it's too much to expect a shoe to cope with a bit of spray running down your leg.
🙂😘🤭 etc
Excactly. These goretex FiveTens are a full on winter shoe. They're not just a normal shoe or boot with goretex. They have a full neoprene liner inside. That's why they're so warm and why any water doesn't drain out. I'm sure they're a fine winter shoe, but they are not a shoulder season or mixed conditions shoe. The normal BS laces means that they are only effective when worn with trousers. Trousers are fine in the winter, but goes to reinforce that these are a winter only shoe.
So disappointed with my goretex experiment that I bought some Five Ten Freerider Pro Mid VCS shoes. These are a much better solution for me. They have a similar sock construction, but they're thinner and more breathable. My feet stay a more comfortable temperature. And the Velcro straps keep spray out better than laces.
First ride on mine the other night. Kept my feet dry on both crossings of the river so that was encouraging. I'll mostly be riding with trousers through winter so sock soak shouldn't be an issue. Nice feel through the sole and grip spot on of course. Hopefully they stand up to properly wet winter riding.
Just ordered a pair, £105 still with discount code.
Pain in the arse to get on first few times,Very comfy to wear from the off.waterproof enough, but for me not warm at all even with a decent woolie boolie sock🤷🏼♂️
Hopefully they stand up to properly wet winter riding.
I think we've already established that they don't.
So disappointed with my goretex experiment that I bought some Five Ten Freerider Pro Mid VCS shoes. These are a much better solution for me. They have a similar sock construction, but they’re thinner and more breathable. My feet stay a more comfortable temperature. And the Velcro straps keep spray out better than laces.
I ordered both. Sent the goretex back. The Pro Mid with a waterproof sock is now my wet winter option. Works really well.