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Yep..and it’s not remotely the same as how we have supported others on this forum in the past
There definitely was a gfm type thing a while back to fix someones broken dog. Not sure if he snapped his dog sending it off a cliff, but I guess it's possible.
Regardless, from this thread I'd like to give a thumbs up to stevextc for the stuff he talked about. Random acts of of kindness of strangers is a beautiful thing, whatever form it takes.
Well according to the story, the guys hard up, his mum (we don't know if he lives at home or how old he is, do we?) saved hard to buy him this bike which turned out to be a pup. That's unfortunate IMO, no different to having it stolen. As for cash being different - why? Cash is something we want, just like time. It would have been far more difficult for me currently to drive to Leeds to give him a frame than for me to give the minimum gfm donation. Of course, that's not the same for everyone.
So I don't think it's different.
Because if a forum member came on here saying I’ve snapped my bike at BPW, can you all chip in a few quid to get me a replacement, I’d not be contributing to that either.
How about if a name you recognised on here posted about a friend at work who saved really hard to buy her sons bike, her son had problems but mountain biking had really helped him with his issues, and she was worried about him if he didn’t have that focus and outlet in his life for the time it would take them to save and replace his bike.
Seems exactly like the sort of thing STW would get right behind.
It’s all in the marketing of the message it seems.
How about if a name you recognised on here posted about a friend at work who saved really hard to buy her sons bike, her son had problems but mountain biking had really helped him with his issues, and she was worried about him if he didn’t have that focus and outlet in his life for the time it would take them to save and replace his bike.
Unless you know something about this kid that hasn't been disclosed, that's whataboutwry of the highest order. If however he actually has issues and his biking serves as some kind of therapy then fair enough. Show me some evidence of that and I'll happily bung in a tenner.
whataboutery of the highest order
hehe. not really, Just reading between the lines thats all.
[b]Anybody that has seen emre riding knows its his release and his happy place[/b] and he is very skilled. He's is a good genuine kind hearted guy he doesn't just come and ride he spends time with the kids helping them learn skills and has time for everybody
@nealglover sounds like [i]you’re[/i] the one who’s been sucked in by marketing tbh
Not really, just pointing out how the same message can be received in different ways depending on the delivery.
I have seen the guy ride at LUBP though, and they are correct, he is very good.
I have seen the guy ride at LUBP though, and they are correct, he is very good.
Aye no doubt about that based on the vid of him landing it previously. He posted a number of replies on that fb vid link in the Op's first post. He's about 17 I reckon, and looks to be pretty useful on a BMX as well. And in fairness he doesn't come across as remotely dickish on that fb thread based on the couple of replies I read.
Still won't be donating though! 😂
Unless you know something about this kid that hasn’t been disclosed, that’s whataboutwry of the highest order.
It's not really whataboutery, it's more or less what the GFM page is.
Your suggestion that it's a scam was the same level of whataboutery. But I choose to believe the good in people. £5 was a price worth paying for a strong positive feeling.
Ok, let's phrase it like this, you all (maybe) know my lad from my threads, let's say he binned it at FoD today and snapped his new bike. Would you help?
Me, I don't know know this kid or his mum, so in my mind they're not active forum contributors, so I've kept my hand in my pocket on this. But I'd 100% be donating if they were an active member
That would be a huge drop on a hardtail!
It would be fairly large, yes. By similar reasoning, a smaller drop on a hardtail could offer him the same challenge and if it goes wrong and the bike breaks - be cheaper to repair.
I’m not going to donate but that’s because im tight and selfish and have no connection to it but the comments here are annoying.
I’m hardly selfish, and I have donated to a lot of causes posted on here.
It could take him a year to be able to get another frame.
Then ride a bit more carefully and look after it. Value what it brings to you.
It’s a bit like saying, “I saved a lot to buy a Porsche 911 - it was 10 years old, so I could just about afford it. Unfortunately, on my second corner on my first track day driving it, I wrote it off and can’t afford a new one for a year. It’s really good for my mental health, and life’s a bit tough - so can you donate a few quid.” Obviously, I haven’t bought a 911 and don’t do track days.
As for someone else, keeping a list. Please, by all means do. I am not sure what it would tell you about me or anyone else.
Your suggestion that it’s a scam was the same level of whataboutery
When did I suggest it was a scam? Don't start making shit up to suit your argument. If you can quote me from this thread where I suggested it was a scam i'll donate a tenner right now.
I'm waiting..
Would you help
Honest answer...nope. On the other hand, If your dog needed medical attention or you couldn't work and were skjnt because you were looking after the wife who was ill, then absolutely i would, and i have in the past .
But ultimately any cash i give away goes to (imo) far more deserving causes than funding other people's kid's hobbies. Others may think differently but I don't think that stance marks me out as particularly miserable, as others have insinuated.
Fair call.
Others may think differently but I don’t think that stance marks me out as particularly miserable, as others have insinuated.
I think what makes you miserable is that you felt the the need to comment about how it was unworthy and you are still here going on about it having posted about 20 times. We know.
I think what makes you miserable is that you felt the the need to comment about how it was unworthy
Perhaps because the op specifically asked if we thought it was unworthy in his first post, and invited debate?
'you are still here going on about it having posted about 20 times'
Yep..I'm trying my utmost to make it to the top of your 'list'..
On a side note..Still waiting for Molgrips to return with evidence that I claimed the go fund me was a scam...
My tenner is waiting..
Looks like it's just you an me. Pint?
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Its a short list by the way. Just you..
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When did I suggest it was a scam? Don’t start making shit up to suit your argument. If you can quote me from this thread where I suggested it was a scam i’ll donate a tenner right now.
I’m waiting..
It was probably when you said this:
You see how absolutely ridiculous that sounds…
If you weren't coming across as a right arsehole with passive-aggressive language all over the place I might be inclined to apologise for mis-reading you, but you are so I'm not 🙂
And for the record, I don't think donating money to strangers is ridiculous. If I saw a kid upset about losing his only football that he couldn't afford to replace in the canal, I'd get in and rescue it myself or give him a tenner. Random kindness to strangers is not ridiculous, nor should it be.
I once found about $120 in cash whilst on a trip to the US. I spent some of it on a meal and I tipped the rest, about $60. It was on top of the required 20% tip. I make decent money these days through nothing but luck, so that's not really different to finding money on the floor.
I also ****ted a wheel when I was 17 or so trying to do 180 bunny hops. I couldn't afford to replace it, so someone helped me out with a new rim. That got me riding again.
More or less deserving than https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-replace-a-friends-stolen-bike?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet . ? Got a few £ up there already. If I didn't detest EBikes and all they stand for 😁 (read - can't afford one)......
In my limited view nobody is right or wrong, it's their personal choice to donate or not, to the OP. Good to see a positive post about the lad !
If you weren’t coming across as a right arsehole with passive-aggressive language all over the place I might be inclined to apologise for mis-reading you, but you are so I’m not 🙂
So you were wrong then, I never said it was a scam..glad that's been cleared up..
I once found about $120 in cash whilst on a trip to the US. I spent some of it on a meal and I tipped the rest, about $60.
Your altruism knows no bounds..😂
On a side note..Still waiting for Molgrips to return with evidence that I claimed the go fund me was a scam…
My tenner is waiting..
If you're happy to cut the middle man, I'll setup a gfm that absolutely is a scam and you can donate a tenner to that?
How about "please help me retrieve Elon musk's car from space as I can't afford to buy my own"
Revive the thread
Apparently Giant provided a frame which was built up with the Go Fund Me money and it was stolen from his house 6 days ago.
Think he deserves another one?
Oh, FFS.
So the GFM was created on the 19th, the frame was donated, arrived (plus all the parts), built up, and nicked by the 28th?
Does he own a 100% witch-skin hat as well?
£200 ‘cash prize’ if it’s found too, so worth keeping an eye out for it.
Apparently Giant provided a frame which was built up with the Go Fund Me money and it was stolen from his house 6 days ago.
Think he deserves another one?
Good on Giant !
Very unlucky, hopefully he will get it back...
£200 ‘cash prize’ if it’s found too, so worth keeping an eye out for it.
Did they start a GFM to raise the reward money? I can't keep track.
Anyone know the circumstances in which it was nicked?
Whilst there is no excuse for anybody stealing it, if it was securely locked up inside a house or garage, but was still taken, then that is a different thing compared to it being left outside unlocked in the back garden overnight and taken - for example....
Well that's unfortunate.
Hopefully there's some home and contents insurance that can be called upon.
FRO - for race only.
c.2010 as it has G3 dropouts. Its a miracle it was still alive past 2011 tbh.
He's either really unlucky or really dumb and left it unlocked.
My initial thought was one of his 'mates' was keeping up with events and decided to help himself to it.
I note in the last week or so the original subject of this thread has benefited to some £30. So we can take it that everyone here is working on general principles only. If you want to contribute do so, otherwise....
martinhutch
Full MemberSo the GFM was created on the 19th, the frame was donated, arrived (plus all the parts), built up, and nicked by the 28th?
Definitely difficult not to be at least a little cynical when you look at that timeline
My initial thought was one of his ‘mates’ was keeping up with events and decided to help himself to it.
could well be that someone less than desirable who is a friend* from school has suddenly clocked how much bikes are worth based on the fundraiser.
*lets be honest, every teenager has pretty much everyone in their year group on their friends/followers/contact lists these days, whether they like the person or not.
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If only the ride there wasn't so bloody hilly...