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Blimey! That's a real box ticker.
I would kill for a ride on that.
As I posted in the comments someone a few years back posted about his offroad experiences with wear on a belt drive. Anyone remember who that was?
I never read the front page so thanks for the heads up.
Massive Nicolai fan and definitely gearbox curious so this has got my attention!
As I posted in the comments someone a few years back posted about his offroad experiences with wear on a belt drive. Anyone remember who that was?
Gah, i was looking at that thread recently and cant remember who it was now - didn't end very well though
They have been offering a longer travel one for a while haven't they?
having never ridden a pinion bike, but read reviews and gear box curious, it did sound like the compromises they bring would be 'fine' for an enduro winch and plummet bike,
if there is a bit of extra drag, then you just gear it easier, and winch a bit slower....
But would be more of an issue on a trail up, along, down type bike?
I'd love to have an extended test on a pinion bike to see if i could make it work for me... rear mechs are expensive ;-0
Oh Yes! Looks great.......and if you're gonna spend that sort of wedge on a bike, you might as well get something a bit special/different rather than 'just' a snazzy frame and some carbon wheels.
John Climber wasn't it? Yucky Dorset mud killed the belt in short order?
Posted on the front page article but...
Any ideas what the function of that piece is? Its fixed at both ends?
I've been a Nicolai and pinion fanboy for a while.... But having listened to some real world reviews and experiences of pionon's recently, I think I'd go traditional mech now....
Any ideas what the function of that piece is?
It's a torsion bar for the shock mounts I think
I like how they've compensated for the gearbox madness by giving it really pretty conservative geometry and making it look like every halfords full suss from the last decade.
TENSION-BAR
ABSORBS LOADS AND REDUCES FORCES
Nicolai has always been good for the other solution. The tension bar increases the fatigue strength of the frame without increasing the weight.
Wondering what that black thing is hidden behind the shock and seat-tube ? Every iteration of the Saturn since 2004 has featured a tension bar. This is an extra connection between the lower shock bolt and the rocker link pivot, why? When the suspension bottoms out at full compression, forces continue to try and move these pivot points away from each other (you can see many frames break around this area).
The tension bar resists this and keeps the maximum forces in check, meaning that lighter tubing and machined parts can be used in this area to reduce overall weight.
From the Nicolai website...
DrP
65 degree head angle and 540 reach on a 130mm trail bike is conservative now?
Anyone remember who that was?
It was MidlandsTrailQuestGraham as I recall. He fixed buses and broke bikes 😊
He certainly posted lots of really useful stuff and it was partly his posts that made me reconsider converting my Rohloff for belt drive
Looks awesome. Well I think all nicolais look awesome in a metal n'welds fashion. Now this one has a gearbox for more filth.
I'd love a Geometron with a Pinion if I could turn fresh air into pound notes.
5lab
Free Member65 degree head angle and 540 reach on a 130mm trail bike is conservative now?
That's the XXL you're quoting for, so, yes, it is pretty much. The medium has fairly long reach, but attached to a shortish wheelbase at 1240.
Lottery win and I would be all over that
MidlandsTrailQuestGraham
Thats was the fella. Brilliant posts.
That’s the XXL you’re quoting for, so, yes, it is pretty much. The medium has fairly long reach, but attached to a shortish wheelbase at 1240.
out of interest, what 130mm bikes are significantly longer\slacker?
It definitely grabs my attention as there's a lot to like about it but for even a cheap build you're looking at £7k! That's a lot of traditional drivetrains on other bikes.
Isn't that tensioning pulley next to the rear tyre just going to get totally shafted with mud in short order? Bearing in mind I had to stop and scrape about an inch of mud off my sidewalls on a recent ride, I can't see a pulley in that location lasting too long, which kind of defeats teh low-maintenance objectives of gearboxes and belt drives?
Just go without the gates - traditional chain, easy to get spares, easier to repair trailside.
When the suspension bottoms out at full compression, forces continue to try and move these pivot points away from each other (you can see many frames break around this area).
Has anyone on here experienced this?
Most importantly, whats the weight of that hub, rear sprocket and belt compared to a standard hub, cassette, mech and chain?
Weight around the bottom bracket is only an issue on the internet and when lifting onto roof racks.