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didn't see one so I though I'd start a general chat thread.....
visma team released
https://twitter.com/vismaleaseabike/status/1803739678660518265
Jonas and WVA 🙂 not sure on the graphic with the 3 big 'eds and 4 little 'eds 😕
only 8 days to wait
Intending to watch it on Discovery plus but the video quality on streams has been quite poor in my opinion, am i missing a way to improve this, any settings somewhere i'm missing?
Intending to watch it on Discovery plus but the video quality on streams has been quite poor in my opinion, am i missing a way to improve this, any settings somewhere i’m missing?
I usually watch on ITV4 and try to filter out the constant adverts for funeral care and equity release out of my consciousness.
Bardet has extend his contract another year
https://twitter.com/dsmfirmpostnl/status/1804139806198210848
2 brits and Gee (not G) in for IPT with Jake Stewart and Stevie Williams flying the flag
https://twitter.com/IsraelPremTech/status/1804061513906270605
Inrng guide to the tour : https://inrng.com/tour/
Stage by stage guide: https://inrng.com/2024/06/tour-de-france-2024-stage-profiles/
Ah, excellent work @Klunk , I was thinking about a TdF thread earlier!
Yep, National Road Championships this weekend (almost all nations) so always interesting to see who'll be sporting a new stripy jersey a few days later at the Tour.
By the way, I won't be doing a daily TdF stage thread this year - partly because the final week I'll be on holiday in Nice for the finish. 🙂
If anyone else wants to take on the tradition started by @lunge , they're welcome. Otherwise I'm sure each stage could just get added to this thread. 🤷🏻♂️
Still a few teams left to announce their Tour squads. I see a few new bikes breaking cover too, Ineos have an upgraded Pinarello.
Looking forward to it!
Not surprised that froome isn't there. No disrespect but that crash was always going to be the point that he stopped being a contender, did anyone believe IsraelPT bosses when they were talking up his chances
Getting a little bit excited.
I prefer ITV4 but they don’t have HD, which means watching on a smallish telly or on chrome book.
How hard are UAE going to hit stage 1 ? They are going to test out Jonas early doors surely to check his fitness and nerve as well as some tit for tat for visma making it hard for Pog's wrist last year.
So looking at that DSM tweet I presume Bardet will be racing on the gravel circuit next season in DSM colours.
No disrespect but that crash was always going to be the point that he stopped being a contender
Well Egan Bernal had a similar crash a season or two later and he’s very much on the verge, he wasn’t quite at the top level in the Tour De Suisse, but then Adam Yates and Joao Almeida were quite some way ahead of everybody, and they’re only going to the TdF to support Tadej 😳😳
I reckon UAE podium 1st and 2nd, and to be honest, they have a chance on 3rd
It will be incredible if Ving is competitive. Incredible. Let's see what they can do. Kuss? Looked boring. WvA? Errr.
Roglic will fall off.
Remco might win the first TT.
Ineos better to go for stages or else decide who the leader is and act on it. They are turning into Movistar.
quick guide to the main contenders underdogs
https://www.cyclist.co.uk/in-depth/tour-de-france-2024-underdogs
Pretty glad Visma have changed their kit so we don’t get it confused with any other jerseys.
Going to be parked up near the first col, or rather passo because we'll be in Italy, on the first day.
Got two spray cans.
Anything you want scrawled on the road?
Edit. Other than a massive 🐓/ 🍆 & ⚽⚾🏐
Obviously.
No Froome.
Funny how his performance fell off a cliff in comparison to Thomas.
Very odd....
Can't wait - usually prefer the Giro to the Tour but after a somewhat underwhelming Giro this year things are spicing up for the tour.
I think that Roglic and Remco will fade away quite early but that Remco will go for stages like he did in the vuelta, and that Roglic will abandon to focus on the Vuelta.
Jonas to fade and ride as a domestique for a surprisingly good Jorgensen.
Pogacar to win with Yates second.
Re ITV4 - we have Freesat and it is in HD. It's also HD online on ITVX. I'm torn as I enjoy Rob Hatch immensely but can't stand Carlton Kirkby so 50/50 over watching uninterrupted on Discovery plus. I like Ned Boulting but find the middle of the day chats on ITV and the constant funeral adverts really annoying.
For highlights, Gary Imlach's dry sense of humour wins every time. I'll often watch hem even if I've watched the whole stage live just for his comments.
Oh, and Cav to win the first sprint stage in France (second sprint overall, first is in Italy). Pidcock to win the first stage would be a possibility but unlikely
Pidders is racing XC in Crans Montana this weekend, not sure he’ll be at the tour
The guys that do the Never Strays Far podcast..... Who do they do the commentary for?
No Froome.
Funny how his performance fell off a cliff in comparison to Thomas.
Very odd….
Froome hit a wall at 55kph and was smashed to pieces. He was lucky to walk again, so no real surprise his performance fell off a cliff.
Pidders is racing XC in Crans Montana this weekend, not sure he’ll be at the tour
He's been talking himself up for it, it's apparently long been on his radar.
Anything you want scrawled on the road?
NTR (it's for North Tyneside Riders) 😁
Very surprised Vingagoagoago is starting. Pog will want to attack him early and hard me thinks but if Vingago can follow do they keep up that tactic off the back of the Giro? If Pog gets a lead early it will become a race to see who else can get on the podium.
Pidders/Mr Pidcock said on the Cycling Podcast he's going to ride for stages.
Pog to win, Cav not to win a stage. Another UAE on the podium, and then either Rog or Jorgenson.
Would be nice to see Bernal win a stage, but he'd have to be down on GC to do that. From a group of GC riders he's never going to get away.
Heat could be an issue - who does well in that?
They're coming through our village on the 11th July, looking forward to that, but if the weather doesn't pick up drowning will be more of an issue than heat as it seems to have rained every day since October.
Pidcock said on the Cycling Podcast he’s going to ride for stages
Is surely the sensible thing, but what's the betting they revert to the same, now flaccid, ineos attack train, only for UAE to say 'cheers guys' and drop everyone.
Huge amounts of rain, Iseran and Lautaret currently closed due to landslides and Galibier also ropy (apologies if I’ve mixed some up) so with two weeks to go, route may yet change
edit: galibier covered in snow , lautaret in mud by should be clear by then. Iseran not used in this race I think, should have opened to traffic today but closed to traffic still due to huge mudslide yesterday, just shows the amount of rain in the alps
https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1802944940722290885?s=46&t=yRQNMEdCGRiV6tO7y1r0Mw
https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1804229402944823436?s=46&t=yRQNMEdCGRiV6tO7y1r0Mw
brexit jims mob new steed
Yep, looks like every other Pinarello, is called the Dogma like every other Pinarello.
Another busy day in the design and naming departments...
If Ineos can get Pidders to the front on the last descents of any mountainous stage (this didn’t happen sadly in the Tour du Suisse), then he can def win a stage or two.
If Ineos can get Pidders to the front on the last descents of any mountainous stage
Sure, but what goes down must have earlier gone up, and the Brexit Bombardiers don't have remotely the strength needed to do that when faced with UAE and Jumbo.
Pog to win, Cav not to win a stage. Another UAE on the podium, and then either Rog or Jorgenson.
Good call for the podium I reckon, with Pog to win at a canter. But Cav to win a stage!
How hard are UAE going to hit stage 1 ?
Very very hard IMO. In case Vin has hopes of riding into the Tour, smash him early.
Funny how his performance fell off a cliff in comparison to Thomas.
Not sure what you're referring to.
Very odd….
life changing crash and injuries. G falls off a lot but never in the way Froome did. How did Bernal get on after his crash? It has taken years to get back to form.
UAE will want to prevent Ving riding into form. At least two on the podium and I don’t think Sir Cav will make it. I’d love him to do so.
I don’t think Sir Cav will make it. I’d love him to do so.
I think even most of the peloton would delighted to see it.
https://road.cc/content/feature/mark-cavendishs-top-10-tour-de-france-stage-wins-302301
A partial roster from Ineos confirming Tom P.
Final couple of names TBC but they've got Geraint Thomas and Tom Pidcock.
Reckon Tarling will get a start for Ineos, he's on fire this year and only improving.
Yes I would think Sterling would be a good bet for the first TT but the second is too mountainous / the GC players will go all out
Just watched Pidcock in the MTB short track, ****ing hell it was like watching a grown up race toddlers.
The TdF Roadbook app is available to download, but it wants a login and password. I don’t remember having to do this before - any ideas?
Thread on Reddit gives guest as login and roadbook2024 as password
Checked and works for me.
Thanks for the tips for watching on HD ITVX. Hubby is going to subscribe.
I'm sure nbt will set up the STW 'Velo Tour of France' game'.
Been thinking about it and whichever of the favourites wins it will make quite a good story. It’s all some form of redemption after previous years’ disappointment or recovery from significant setbacks. The most delicious mix of those in my mind would be Roglič who’s had his arse handed to him by each of the other main contenders AND is coming back from a big crash.
Still think Pogačar is the main favourite but for now I’m on Team Rog
Watty
PSA: ITVX sub for a year is currently £19.99 down from £59.99, just in time for the Tour 😃
Is there a code or a link for this price? It's snowing at full price for me 😞
EDIT: answering my own question, you need to go via the app on an apple device
Sorry NBT, I didn’t realise it was Apple only.
No worries I have an iPhone so can use that, but was initially checking on an android tablet
Still think Pogačar is the main favourite but for now I’m on Team Rog
Roglič went down in my estimation with that whole thing with Kuss at the Vuelta last year. But still, I wouldn't mind if he won because it would be more interesting than Pog winning again.
Roglic... the wheel sucker until the last 200 metres (not a fan).... Pog, the wheel to suck for anyone who can. Yes, I'm a fan.
Roglič went down in my estimation with that whole thing with Kuss at the Vuelta last year.
To be fair, he followed team orders despite being the stronger rider. Much like any other team where a rider emerges to challenge. Then took the honourable exit to another team for GC. The irony is, had he still been at Visma, he’d probably have Ving working for him after five stages of Ving being beaten up by UAE, and not really recovering fully from that crash
Heat could be an issue – who does well in that?
Chris Froome, ironically...
Maybe more germane here is that Pogi seems less good with it. Oh, and Simon Yates if you think back to the Giro - I think - where he struggled with it. I wonder if that means Adam has similar genetic tendencies.
Look at it slightly differently, and it may, on some days, come down to how well individual teams and riders manage heat as well as any physiological predispositions. Quite a lot of teams are now using core temperature sensors - https://corebodytemp.com/ - to monitor athletes' core body temperature.
Anyway, really looking forward to this year's Tour. In no particular order: Pogi v Jonas, can Roglic perform with Bora, how will Remco cope in the high mountains, can Carlo Rodriguez quietly make it onto the podium, Egan Bernal's ongoing fight to get back to 100%, Sir Cav's record stage win mission, `Pidcock and descents, Richard Carapaz being feisty, Wout van Aeart doing improbable things, Kwiato being quietly brilliant, Mikel Landa's sad, puppy dog eyes, G as a super dom' again, the scenery and cols that I've ridden myself, and loads more.
Stuff I'm not looking forward to: Carlton Kirby's endless drivel and Sean Kelly's regular use of 'continue on', the 'on is redundant and all your other words are in the wrong order.
Anyway, really looking forward to this year’s Tour. In no particular order: Pogi v Jonas, can Roglic perform with Bora, how will Remco cope in the high mountains, can Carlo Rodriguez quietly make it onto the podium, Egan Bernal’s ongoing fight to get back to 100%, Sir Cav’s record stage win mission, `Pidcock and descents, Richard Carapaz being feisty, Wout van Aeart doing improbable things, Kwiato being quietly brilliant, Mikel Landa’s sad, puppy dog eyes, G as a super dom’ again, the scenery and cols that I’ve ridden myself, and loads more
You forgot MVdP being MVdP
Cavendish confirmed with Morkov as lead out.
https://twitter.com/AstanaQazTeam/status/1805169969648341235
Yay. Go Cav!
Pog is going to smash it
Good to see quite a few young brits coming through this year
Just watched Pidcock in the MTB short track, **** hell it was like watching a grown up race toddlers.
And the XCO looked even easier. What is going on there in Ineos? I get he's got the olympic goal, but a race like that 1 week before the tour? High risk to say the least. Not taking anything away from Pidcock's MTB talent which is obviously immense, in terms of risk/investment vs that win, is it worth it for Ineos? Luckily it paid off. Certainly is entertaining. On the tour, hope he goes for stages and wins one in spectacular style, and I bet Jim is hoping the same because a tour stage is worth way more than a XC win.
Ineos line up confirmed
https://twitter.com/INEOSGrenadiers/status/1805179199897911718
You forgot MVdP being MVdP
I get the impression that he's basically Jasper's last lead-out man, but it would be great to see him go head-to-head with Van Aert for some rolling stage wins.
Ineos line up confirmed
https://twitter.com/INEOSGrenadiers/status/1805179199897911718/blockquote >
I didn't see Ben Turner coming, but it makes sense. I was wondering if they'd include Josh Tarling for a tilt at the time trials and some experience.
Yep, National Road Championships this weekend (almost all nations) so always interesting to see who’ll be sporting a new stripy jersey a few days later at the Tour.
1 DE LIE Arnaud Lotto Dstny 100 15 4:55:19
2 PHILIPSEN Jasper Alpecin - Deceuninck 75 10 ,,
3 MEEUS Jordi BORA - hansgrohe 60 7 ,,
4 NYS Thibau Lidl - Trek 50 4 ,,
5 VAN AERT Wout Team Visma | Lease a Bike 40 2 ,,
6 MERLIER Tim Soudal Quick-Step 30 1 ,,
7 VAN EETVELT Lennert Lotto Dstny 20 ,,
8 REX Laurenz Intermarché - Wanty 10 ,,
9 NAESEN Oliver Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team 5 0:02
10 MENTEN Milan Lotto Dstny 3 ,,
quite the competition for the Belgique stripes (yeah right remco had a cold 😉 )
De Lie looked awesome in that sprint - beat a murderer's row of world class sprinters. Philipsen straight in his wheel and couldn't come round.
Not sure how he is fixed for a leadout with Lotto - the big TdF sprint stages get so tactically congested, but he should be able to do some stuff in the Tour.
Is it worth getting Discovery+ to watch the Tdf?
How much more coverage will I get compared with ITV4?
I know there's usually a special thread but this dropped into the club chat...velogames TdF:
https://www.velogames.com/velogame/2024
Is it worth getting Discovery+ to watch the Tdf?
Eurosport coverage (which should be the same) for Tdf is pretty much from race start now I think.
Eurosport coverage (which should be the same) for Tdf is pretty much from race start now I think.
ITV4 is live for almost all stages start to finish as well. Has been for a couple of years now except there are a lot of adverts for donkey sanctuaries and funeral plans.