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Bearing in mind cheapness is a consideration, so carbon is pretty much ruled out:

* Kona Project II
* Surly Karate Monkey
* Salsa Cromoto

Pros? Cons? Weight? Trail? Niceness?


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 10:29 am
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Mike, how much are On-One doing their carbon ones for?

Are they out of your price range?


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 10:32 am
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On-One Carbons are £140, which is double the most expensive one above.

I won't know an exact price range until the insurance people get back in touch. And carbon scares me a bit 🙂


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 10:35 am
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Sorry for the blatant plug but i've got some new Kona Project 2's going spare if you are interested. 29er, disc only in black with a small mark to one leg. Uncut steerer. £40 posted.

Keeping this on topic...

I have P2's on another bike and they are lovely. Not too heavy and a nice hardwearing finish. I also have some Singular forks and the P2's are a bit more 'direct' with less flex, but the Singular forks are slightly more comfortable for me, partly because of the greater offset i think, though Sam could put me right on this.

Depends what you look for in a fork but the P2's track well, are relatively comfortable, are hard wearing and look nice. All good really.

Chris


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 10:44 am
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16st+ here hamfistedly bashing On-One carbons around. Hell, I even left the ground on Cannock Monkey Trail, albeit briefly. I tried rigid steel forks, but too harsh for me. Stick some std dia carbon bars & big grips & its plenty comfy.
The carbon Police will tell you I'm on borrowed time.
My psychiatrist tells me not.


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 11:38 am
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exotic carbons,under a ton and waaaaay beterer than steel...


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 11:41 am
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Exotic carbon +1


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 11:44 am
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Check them out here...

http://www.carboncycles.cc/?p=197&


 
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Are they to replace current rigids or bouncy forks?


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 12:16 pm
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Singular steel ones rock.
I've had both these and exotic carbons and would use the Singular ones evrey time. They are great !


 
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I find my Singular fork *very* flexy. I can make the rotor rub when climbing out of the saddle. The price you pay for a compliant ride and a long fork I guess.
The fork alignment is also incredibly poor, with the wheel not centred between the legs (flipping the wheel has the same result, so it's not wheel dish).


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 1:07 pm
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Thanks for the replies, everyone.

They're to go on a new build, but I've always ridden rigid forks.

I have the On-One CroMo forks on a bike at the moment. They're fine, but heavy and fugly.

I'm sure carbon would be fine. I'm only 70kg and I never break stuff, but I just can't bring myself to pay that much for rigid forks.


 
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AS a few peeps have said above: Exotic carbon's...with the aluminium steerer they're £85 - I've got a pair [url= http://twitpic.com/4gkeix ]on a TD1[/url] ATM, seemed nice on a quick lap round the mary towneley loop on Sunday


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 3:21 pm
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I think the Exotics might have it. I can justify* spending £20 over a steel fork for carbons, but not double.

*to the wife


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 3:34 pm
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highly recommended Mike,used em loads,never had any issues.


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 4:22 pm
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exotics are top banana


 
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Exotic carbon here too, fab. Really impressive for the money (Nukeproof used to sell the 26er version rebadged with their stickers, for twice the price, and it still got a 4 star award in one of the mags 😉 )


 
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if they might be for a "certain frame" make sure the offset is about 47mm, 38mm offset feels like cack on it


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 5:20 pm
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Had exotic 29er carbons and presently have 440 atc 26" ers.

Both great for me.


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 5:29 pm
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I thought it wad the Superstar ones that were Nukeproofs without the daft lettering...? Or are the SS ones the Exotics as well...?
Either way, I love the feel from my carbon forks.


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 5:47 pm
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Surly's are heavy and ugly. 🙂


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 6:00 pm
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Hmm, they're 42mm offset...


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 6:02 pm
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rustler, don't know about Superstar, they could be the same as well (I think White Bros are also the same, the cheaper Pro fork is a variation on the same design but with some different components)


 
Posted : 05/04/2011 6:14 pm
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Miketually!

You've seen these before! They look great and from the above comments, they are a brilliant rigid carbon fork! I can't comment on their performance until I get my new wheels, but first impressions are great! 😆
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doof doof - Mine are spot on, no rotor rub (6FT 4", 16st kitted and out of saddle) and wheel alignment is fine, agreed you have to make sure the wheel axle is dead in the drop out but fine for me.

Exotics are good, light and appear well made but personally, after having both for sometime, I would sacrifice a little weight for the steel fork.


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 6:26 am
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Just saw this but too much of a rush to see if it's any help to you

http://twentynineinches.com/2011/04/05/new-generation-rigid-fork-shootout-3-syncros-fl-29er/


 
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Im going to jump on these as soon as theyre in prod:
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http://www.shedfire.com/2011/03/18/direct-from-a-street-cafe-in-taipei-new-xliteragley-through-axle-rigid-fork/


 
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I find my Singular fork *very* flexy. I can make the rotor rub when climbing out of the saddle. The price you pay for a compliant ride and a long fork I guess.
The fork alignment is also incredibly poor, with the wheel not centred between the legs (flipping the wheel has the same result, so it's not wheel dish).

Mine are spot on.

Sounds like you crashed on yours.


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 7:02 am
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my on one carbon forks were lovely... definitely recommended.

they're also for sale if you are interested - tamarvin @ googlemail.com

🙂


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 7:22 am
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I've used On-one carbons for several years and they have bene great. I'd welcome the extra security of bolt-though though.


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 7:35 am
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stoner - every ride i go on im risking my front teeth - waiting on those damned things.


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 7:59 am
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My On-One forks have been good and solid, but I have 20mm Rebas so want to be able to swap wheels across without having to change adaptors on the superstar hub (needs to have rotor removed to do this)

Also like the stiffer feel.


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 8:01 am
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Salsa Cromoto? about £75, weigh about 100g more than exotic carbon. But imo look nicer than carbon.


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 8:10 am
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got a set of kona project II 29er/700c disc only sat doing nowt in the shed,long steerer, only used for about 3 months on this
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tweet me if interested


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 8:14 am
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My experiences:

- Salsa Cromoto (only tried in 26" flavour though) - reasonably light, look nice, not horribly stiff, not particularly flexy

- Exotic (26" again) similar feel to the Salsa really - IIRC they're a touch lighter

- Singular fork - noticably flexy forward/back over bumps in a good way but may be too long for some frames. I didn't notice any particular issue with them flexing in terms of steering accuracy.


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 8:19 am
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got a set of kona project II 29er/700c disc only sat doing nowt in the shed,long steerer, only used for about 3 months on this

They're 700c rather than 29er aren't they? Thanks though.


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 5:04 pm
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Same thing, if you search or project II 29er they all say 700c too


 
Posted : 06/04/2011 9:08 pm
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I find my Singular fork *very* flexy. I can make the rotor rub when climbing out of the saddle. The price you pay for a compliant ride and a long fork I guess.
The fork alignment is also incredibly poor, with the wheel not centred between the legs (flipping the wheel has the same result, so it's not wheel dish).

This is the difficulty of trying to design a fork which will ride nicely for folks weighing <60kg while still being strong enough for someone >120kg. Basically it's not possible. The new forks have less flex due to being shorter at 470mm, and we'll soon have a new 'clyde version' fork with thicker walled tubing.

I very rarely hear of any issues with alignment, though if you've got a problem please just drop me a line and I'll sort it out as best I can. It's possible that a fork leg has bent slightly if you are a bigger and more aggressive rider - especially so if you're using large rotors.

Mike, I'd be happy to sort you out with a fork if you are still in need. At your size I think the flex will be fine.


 
Posted : 08/04/2011 10:26 am
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I picked up a set of rigid steel Haro 29er forks on ebay for £35 that i'm not using. Yours if you want them? very short steerer though 152mm, axle to crown 489mm
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Posted : 08/04/2011 10:36 am
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Cheers for all the info an offers. Just waiting for the cheque from the insurance company...


 
Posted : 09/04/2011 11:17 am
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if they might be for a "certain frame" make sure the offset is about 47mm, 38mm offset feels like cack on it

They are for a "certain frame"...

Salsa Fargo: 50 or 55mm offset
Salsa CroMoto: 45mm offset
Singular Hummingbird fork is 55mm too, I think?

Hard to find figures for others :/


 
Posted : 09/04/2011 11:31 am

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