[Closed] Surly love

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We are big fans of Surly. Both Mrs Mugsy and I have an Ogre each.

Mine is singlespeed and used for mtb and heavily laden family camping touring.

Hers does the same touring, has done the TNR twice and the French Divide this year.

I also have a Steamroller and did Chilkoot's Born to Ride on it this year (1200km in 95 hours) as well as several other big day/ 2 day rides.

I can't work out why I like riding this bike so much. It's not vastly different from other bikes I have in many respects, it weighs a ton, but it's just sooo nice to ride and so much fun 😁

Not sure there is that much love. My ICT frame/forks has been listed in the classifieds a few times with no interest 🙂

It was a great bike though. My first fatbike and still one of the most fun bikes I've ridden.

Despite having a rather flash carbon full-susser, my SS Cross Check is by far my most ridden bike, makes me question all the dosh i've spent on bikes over the years

Edit - rather taken by the new Karate Monkey, toyed with getting rid of my rarely ridden full susser to make way for one

I was out on the Cross Check the other day. It is now a flat bar, alfine 8 vehicle and felt very much like a mountain bike from the early nineties but with bigger wheels. It was a bit underwhelming and I'm considering selling it as I think I prefer early nineties mountain bikes.

Still, it is versatile but I can never decide on the perfect build for it, or none of the builds are perfect, not sure which. I think it was better a s single speed, so I might convert it back to that.

Still, it is versatile but I can never decide on the perfect build for it, or none of the builds are perfect, not sure which. I think it was better a s single speed, so I might convert it back to that.

Had gears on mine, much prefer it SS, with riser bars flat pedals and comfy grips, perfect for hooning around town / shopping / pub / taking in the views on a road ride

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...makes me question all the dosh i’ve spent on bikes over the years

That about nails it. It also applies to some On-Ones IMO.

I've had an Instigator which I got when I lived in Australia, I built it up for a 1,200 km overland ride, completely off piste. I needed a frame strong enough to carry an enormous load of water. I sold the frame about 5 years ago. Probably to someone here.
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I've got a 1998 RatRide 1x1 (Surly ancestor) which never ceases to amaze me with its versatility. Which reminds me, it should have a 20th birthday party - might buy it a new chain. 🙂

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And a Pugsley in the unlovely Babyshit yellow colour. Fortunately it is usually covered in mud.

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They're proper bikes. 🙂

Despite having a rather flash carbon full-susser, my SS Cross Check is by far my most ridden bike, makes me question all the dosh i’ve spent on bikes over the years

Similar things over here. I picked up a cheap Genesis CDF frame last year and built it into a simple single speed flat bar (well, weird Mary bar) cross bike to play and generally get around on. Found myself picking it up in preference to my MTB quite frequently. Liked it so much that it eventually got promoted to be my geared road/gravel bike, but I think I had more fun on it before...

Back to the point, I've never had a Surly but would love a KM...

I quite like Surly. My current fleet include 2 x 1x1. 2 x KM, 1 x Pugsley, 1 x Krampus...
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Another Surly fan here, owning a KM Ops and my favourite Surly, a Pugs.

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I love mine!😉

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Some more pics and ramblings!😁

not owned but ridden a karate monkey several times. Absolutely loved it, great bike especially with some bigger rubber.

I miss my karate monkey. The only bike I regret selling (twice)

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while this is fresh in peoples minds, i am on the look out for a xl disc trucker frame.
cheers.

My Disc Trucker is my favourite ever bike.

It's pretty much perfect - versatile, carries as much as you could want, is beautifully designed and built plus it makes me laugh.

That and a 1*1 would make a pretty fine combo, tbh.

I'd decided to buy a Karate Monkey OPS but then Charlie TBM upsold me to a Salsa El Mariachi. Glad he did tbh - not that the KM would have been bad mind.

i love me both pussies

I've had a few Surly's over the years; had a Steamroller for about a year, which I regret selling, as that was a hugely capable frame. Had a Crosscheck for a while, but not so taken with that, very versatile, but unnecessarily heavy IMO and I couldn't really get on with the geometry.
My favourite by far though is my KM. I've had that for 6 years now, it's one of the transition year models that had the dropped toptube and gusset but still with canti bosses. I keep looking at newer bikes to replace it, until I go out on it again and fall in love all over again. 29+ on the front and with ECR forks just works so nicely.

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Surly Wednesday on the left with my Puffin on the right

Can think of a few small niggles with my XXL ICT (slightly lower toptube, taller headtube), but either in fully rigid full fat winter mode, or 29+ mode (currently its shod with a DHF up front and DW rear - awesome!), it is by far my most ridden bike.

Really quite a special love for it, even now that I drilled a hole in the frame for a stealth dropper. Poor thing!

I will ride it till it falls apart, which may well be a long time!

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2018 model karate monkey.
Alpkit custom frame bag, surly knard 29x3.0 tyres on hope tech enduro wheels.
Great bike to ride.
Much lighter than you might expect, although my other bike is an ebike, which is probably recalibrating my arms.
I’ve done a few overnight trips on it, superb.
Next on my list is a coast to coast from Annan (where I used to live) to the forth bridge (where I currently live)
It just does everything.

while this is fresh in peoples minds, i am on the look out for a xl disc trucker frame.
cheers.

Hmm. I have a 62cm one in red, in great condition. I actually use it a fair bit but I've got three road/cross/tour type bikes with a bit too much overlap between them, so part of me had been contemplating replacing one of them with something like a Straggler or a Day One as a singlespeed. If you're prepared for a lot of umming and ahhing before I come to any conclusion, feel free to drop me a PM 🙂

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Every time I think about selling my KM OPS I then see comments from people who sold a KM and regretted it!

Talk to me @big_scot_nanny 🙂

One of the reasons for putting my ICT frame up for sale was the limited options for fitting a 150mm dropper. So, I'd be interested to hear how you routed yours.

Also:

What is clearance like for 29+ on the rear?

Where did you get your wheels and what rims are you using?

With my usual fantastic timing I've just sold my Bluto, but I guess there are better options for a 29+ fork anyway.

I've been 29+ curious for a while but wasn't sure it would really work with the ICT. I don't need masses of grip at the back. I'm happy running JJs on the rear even in winter, as long as I have something nice and sticky up front (currently a Bud).

The Pug. Been a while since it's turned a wheel mind you.

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@ YoKaiser - one of my fav Pugs of all time.

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The Pug...

It's sooooo clean. Mine is a mud magnet. 🙂

Surly Straggler here. My only bike. Purchased second hand. Set up with H bar and 1x10 29er. Bought as a stop gap to keep me pedalling as circumstances didn't allow for me to have a lot of money invested into a bike. Found now though that I have no need to buy another. Anything I do on it it just gets on with it. Honestly no niggles and no desire to replace it.

I don't have a surly, but I do like steel bikes and both my MTBs are rigid

I think there is something to be said for a simple MTB, without all the faffing about it's just a simple tool for the job and makes me enjoy it more for some reason

Surly Straggler here. My only bike. Purchased second hand. Set up with H bar and 1×10 29er. Bought as a stop gap to keep me pedalling as circumstances didn’t allow for me to have a lot of money invested into a bike. Found now though that I have no need to buy another. Anything I do on it it just gets on with it. Honestly no niggles and no desire to

If I was going to have only one bike, that's almost exactly what I'd have

Surly Straggler here. My only bike. Purchased second hand. Set up with H bar and 1×10 29er.

Yeah I can see something like that in my life!

I purchased my km from bregante and regret selling it on as well.

I still have some 1cm monkey nuts if anyone wants some. No use to me now.

For those that have sold a KM and regret it, what is it that you miss the most?

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Back to the point, I’ve never had a Surly but would love a KM…

I’d love an Ops in the spray tan colour as my main bike. Just looks so nice.

out of the 9 surly bikes i have owned, the most versatile was the ogre.
good for touring, and ok offroad too.
sold it to a family friend and it was stolen whilst he was away touring in denmark.

Summer Monkey

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Been on the lookout for a Krampus for months, no ones seems to be selling, not second hand complete versions anyway.

Love my Wednesday. Perfect tool for winter riding

Love my Ogre...
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Mrs Pickers loves her 42cm Pacer...
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For those that have sold a KM and regret it, what is it that you miss the most?

Well for me that bike was simple (single speed), ran faultlessley and the geometry just planted you nicely. Not too stretched, just like a modern old school bike. Or for us oldies, like a modern rigid kona from the 90s.

Also had a tonne of clearance so even 2.5 up front and 2.4 rear, could ride it all winter in slop. It weighed a lot and it didn't really feel springy but it got up to speed fairly effortlessly and stayed there if you had the skills to ride it out.

I seem to have a bit of a thing going for an ECR. I like the look of it, I like the idea of the kind of riding it would seem to excel at. What I can't seem to do is reconcile the price as an N+1 that i might grow to love. I worry that it will be too heavy and numb and therefore fall into the naughty corner of the shed with the other good ideas that didn't work out.

I seem to have a bit of a thing going for an ECR

Do it! 29+ is ace 😎
My Krampus is no lightweight, but the ride belies the weight.

Bear mind that the new Krampus has all the bike packing mounts now (old model didn't). So personally I'd be inclined toward that rather than the ECR, but only because I like a bit of fast singletrack too, and the ECR is geared towards more sedate big days out.

Either way, don't delay!

Moonlit Swamp Green Krampus, the only bike I regret selling 🙁

As much as I love Surly, I'd have bought a couple more frames if the UK pricing was a little more sensible.

My Trucker was a complete build from Spa, just before the latest increase and came in just at the top end of what I was prepared to pay.

However, I can buy a full Pinnacle Ramin for not that much more than the current price of an equivalent Surly frame. The full build prices are simply crazy.

I can't help thinking that we'd see a lot more Surlys out and about if the pricing was more realistic.

What Rusty Spanner said. They are almost priced as a high-end brand over here, presumably because of the exchange rates.

Coomber, that’s exactly how my KM feels like a 90s kona/marin.
For me this is a positive.

Talk to me @big_scot_nanny 🙂

One of the reasons for putting my ICT frame up for sale was the limited options for fitting a 150mm dropper. So, I’d be interested to hear how you routed yours.

Also:

What is clearance like for 29+ on the rear?

Where did you get your wheels and what rims are you using?

With my usual fantastic timing I’ve just sold my Bluto, but I guess there are better options for a 29+ fork anyway.

I’ve been 29+ curious for a while but wasn’t sure it would really work with the ICT. I don’t need masses of grip at the back. I’m happy running JJs on the rear even in winter, as long as I have something nice and sticky up front (currently a Bud).

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I drilled a ‘slot’, just a little wider than a cable outer and about 15mm long, about 10cm above the bottom bracket, just like this piccy (not my bike), and routed the cable up under the downtube. Not pretty, but it works, and a 170mm dropper just makes the bike even more fabulous. The trails come alive, man 😂

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Gobs of clearance for 29+, also on Bluto, even with DHF on which is truly mahoosive

My local LBS built them, Hope fat on the back, spare 150mm Salsa on teh front. Stand Hugo rims for piss easy tubeless.

I think 29+ works superbly on ICT. With 120mm blutos the seat angle feels a bit too slack, but the front end and general ride is fantastic.Bombproof, but faster than full fat.

@ martymac and coomber - thanks for the feedback.

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They're well proven as a round the world mount.

Thanks b_s_n. I guess they are stick-on cable guides on the downtube. Hadn’t thought of that option. I had a set of Blutos sitting in the shed for a year. Just this week sold them to another forum member. Typical 😩

ECR and 1x1 here great bikes, bombproof and lots of fun

Current bike is a disc trucker and I can't see me ever getting rid of it. I've bought and sold a fair few bikes over the years and of all of them I've only ever regretted the surlys a karate monkey, a krampus and a straggler (had a cross check for a while but never really got on with it). Just wish they were a bit more sensibly priced over here, from what I gather they're quite a cheap and cheerful bike in the states.

Third Cross Check has a crack. Now looking for a new partner.

Better to have loved and lost than never loved at all...

I’d had the surly itch for some time and finally scratched It this last month when I built my pug. Serious surly love now going on, it just feels so right!
Roverpig - I would have taken your ICT if I wasn’t such a short arse!

At the risk of becoming ‘spam like’ here’s yet another pic of the aforementioned pug.
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I was out on my Pugs today. Although my Surly's are different sizes so I get all Goldilocks at times 😄

Still, the Pug just rides so nicely. Just looking forward to a new saddle to arrive as I tore a chunk out of the current one on GFBD.

Love my Moonie, bought it after I saw how much better it handled soft stuff compared to my OO Fatty.

Sold my Krampus as it was an N+1 too far.

My Big Dummy is excellent for the school run and picnic rides with wee nipper.

Currently borrowing a Bridge Club. It's a size too small really, but it rides really nicely.

This thread seems to be running on so I,ll add my bit. Built up a Wednesday fat bike earlier in the year using a second hand frame. I love it! Have done many miles so far- mendips,exmoor, quantocks, peak district. I live on the Welsh border so black mountains , brecon beacons and forest of dean. Not to forget Battle on the Beach.It's one to keep.

I couldn’t agree more with regards to the UK pricing. It used to be a fair bit less and has recently seen a significant jump in the last few years.

I adore my Moonlander a tad too much! Here it is on some cliffs - probably really shouldn’t ride there, nor take pictures at the same time:

Also, selling my Small Krampus and will be going up in the classifieds soon if anyone’s interested. Hope rear hub and brakes, Thomson and Salsa bits, XTR and XT, and an SP Dynamo upfront.

Sorry late to the surly orgy

Some big dummy love - just delivering xmas beer to the boys at the LBS

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I bought her from Del from here and can honestly say that if I had to give up all other forms of transport this would be the bike I would keep.

You see, after a day listening to the horrible politicians and dealing with the public that kind of pic just makes me smile and not fear for the human race so much

Proof (if proof were needed) that Surly's make you smile.

Took my KM Ops out yesterday to try out some new muckynutz 'guards I had fitted.

It was a fun ride and I smiled loads so mine worked 😎

I'd like a small (5'8) Steamroller if anyone happens to know of one for sale!

I seem to have a bit of a thing going for an ECR. I like the look of it, I like the idea of the kind of riding it would seem to excel at. What I can’t seem to do is reconcile the price as an N+1 that i might grow to love. I worry that it will be too heavy and numb and therefore fall into the naughty corner of the shed with the other good ideas that didn’t work out.

If you're a big bloke speak to Ton on here ..he was pondering selling his new one at a very good price not long ago . Things may have changed.
If anyone is interested I have an XL white Pugsley that needs a new home as I have another!
The wheels are drilled Large Marges which is a common mod on these overbuilt wheels. Mail is in my profile and price is £500 + post or collection in Devon.

And I'm after a small non disc 1x1 frame or even better a Rat Ride, now they really don't come up for sale very often......

Mine is a 2018 Surly Ogre.
She can take on whatever I put her through, be it rough tracks or paved roads. I use my Ogre on my commutes or to wander around town, changing her settings nice and easily.

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And another one....

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Only ridden it about 10 miles so far but love it.

Planned upgrades...Stooge Moto bars on order, SS MDS dropouts (Anyone cheaper than Charlie for these ?) and some hydraulic brakes (any cheap suggestions)

nice that Muke

my big bmx........... ;o)

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