[Closed] Surly Dirt Wizard 29+ Tyre

I don't know , but I wish did!

I emailed Surly a month or two ago about them but I've never heard anything back

Details are very scant online, just that it's coming soon 😐

Due August according to Charlie the Bikemonger...

[url] http://www.charliethebikemonger.com/surly-dirt-wizard-29-tyre-29x30-4716-p.asp [/url]

Although they were supposed to be due out last autumn originally 🙁

Yeah, I heard August as well but it has kept slipping. The Maxxis Chronicle seems a bit firmer September.

Thanks Sam, they look like just the ticket... [url= ]Maxxis Chronicle 29+ Tyre[/url]

I hope these arrive in time for winter 🙂

Surly Dirt Wizard 29x2.75 supposed to be due in August.

Any sightings or insider knowledge?

After taking on the storm conditions this morning with my Surly Knards I think something more nobbly will be needed come autumn.

Not a 3" tyre, but I ran the On-one Chunky Monkeys on my Krampus last winter.
They're a generous 2.4 tyre, and come up massive on 50mm rims. Good grip in the wet, and they wore extremely well.

Haha, Knards + mud = rubbish 😉

ajantom - Member

Not a 3" tyre, but I ran the On-one Chunky Monkeys on my Krampus last winter.
They're a generous 2.4 tyre, and come up massive on 50mm rims. Good grip in the wet, and they wore extremely well.

I'll be doing something similar if some more mud-specific 29+ tyres don't become available soon. For now the Knards are fine.

[url= http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-gear/maxxis-rubber-side-down-episode-4-video-new-chronicle-29-tire-spotted-in-the-wild/ ]Looks like it might be soon for the new Maxxis 29+ tyre (click for link)[/url]

Just what I need for the Krampus this Winter (or today looking outside 😐 )

Surly Dirt Wizard 29 tyres are hopefully arriving late October according to Charlie The Bikemonger on his Facebook feed. Fingers are crossed 😆

Just pray it stays dry until then 🙂

I was told that they'd had problems with the 29er carcass and had to go back to the drawing board ( cad machine) therefore not holding my breath

wwaswas - Member

Just pray it stays dry until then.

I'll manage Wwaswas, I have some 2.35 Hans Dampfs in the shed to put on the Krampus as an alternative if no new 29+ tyres arrive; they come up huge on the Rabbit Hole rims.

I had a Chunky Monkey turn up yesterday - it certainly lives up to its name. Reckon it'll mount up nicely on a Blunt 35.

Nobby nic is huge on a dually

According to Maxxis Twitter feed their new Chronicle 29+ tyres will be hitting UK stockists in the second week of October 🙂

[url] https://twitter.com/maxxis_tyres/status/509721901397471232 [/url]

Any pics of a Chunky Monkey mounted?

bonesetter - Member

Any pics of a Chunky Monkey mounted?

I think you want a very different forum for that question 😆

However, I do have an photo of a Chunky Monkey on the front of my old hardtail, sorry it's not a close up, I don't have the tyre or the bike anymore. They come up pretty big but not true 29+ size, very grippy and surprisingly quick rolling but also quite heavy. Very good for the money though and work well on a rigid bike...

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Absolutely brilliant reply, thankyou

Perfect in every way... apart from that saddle - what happened??

bonesetter - Member

Absolutely brilliant reply, thankyou

Perfect in every way... apart from that saddle - what happened??

LOL 😆

A groin/backside injury required the use of the softest saddle I could get hold of, used it for a couple of weeks in the end, it was a monster!!

Pardoned

Surly Dirt Wizard is coming in a very pleasing and aggressive looking 29 x 3.0, looks perfect for winter...

[url] http://fat-bike.com/2014/09/sov-from-surly-talks-29-and-5-knard/ [/url]

Also a whopping great 26 x 5.0 Surly Knard!!

Has anyone heard anything new about these?
Dates seem to be changing all the time.
Seems to be turning into the tyre equivalent of a Rocket.

Looks like Spring 2015 👿

The tyre looks like exactly what I need... just six months too late.

[url= http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/ ]Surly 29+ Blog[/url]

Hopefully the new Maxxis, Panaracer and Bonty 29+ tyres will be released in the meantime. Otherwise i'll be sticking a pair on On-One Chunky Monkeys on my Krampus.

Ok, mixed conditions today, damp woodland singletrack with lots of wet leaves and freshly soaked roots 😈
First ride out after fitting the On-One Chunky Monkeys on the Krampus and I was seriously underwhelmed; grip was great and they roll well enough, but the bike just felt really harsh and overall like it had lost the fun factor.

I've put my 120tpi Knards back on now. I figure I'll probably need to take it slower as it'll deffo be sketchy on the roots but the grin factor will be back at least and I'll just be sliding around with half the other guys too

The Bontrager Chupacabra 29+ tyres are now on the Trek Store website, hopefully hitting these shores soon; they look like the mud-option we need 😀

[url= http://store.trekbikes.com/product/bontrager+chupacabra+tire.do# ]Bonty 29+ Tyre[/url]

First proper review:

[url] http://www.pedalingnowhere.com/gear/surly-dirt-wizard-29-tire-review/ [/url]

Been using a 26 x 2.75 Dirt Wizard recently and they are sketchy!

The rubber compound is VERY hard

Stick it on the front and i have no confidence in the front end

Fit it to the back and i'm constantly locking up when descending

Horrible tyre 🙁

Not what I wanted to hear.
Are there any other 29er+ mud tyres in the works?
I might just settle on a Chronicle.

No I didn't want to hear that either... Hopefully the panaracer will be available soon...

I think I'm going to try a 2.35 Nobby Nic on a dually for the the front for now...

From the review it sounds like Surly are looking at dual compound rubber for the 29+ version of the Dirt Wizard. The guy writing the review certainly doesn't describe them as sketchy. I believe from the Surly blog that this is what has delayed the release of the the 29er Dirt Wizards as Surly weren't happy with them just being a bigger version of the 26" tyre.

FIngers crossed then for a non-sketchy, available soon 29+ DW

I mentioned in the Chronicle thread that it does look like quite a gap in transition from upright to cornering angles...

Talking to the Surly guys earlier in the Year it was the manufacturer and the price point issue that was holding them all up

Not too sure about the dual compound issues, sounds a bit involved for Surly...

boltonjon - Member
Been using a 26 x 2.75 Dirt Wizard recently and they are sketchy!...

Not my experience of them. I wonder if they have changed the compound?

Mine felt quite surefooted.

Maybe it has something to do with tyre pressure. I run mine low - not sure of pressure, but easily squeezed - probably 15 - 20lbs.

Tyre pressure is really crucial with Surly Knards i've been using all summer. The sweet spot seems to be 11-12psi front and 15psi rear for me.

Still no sign of the Dirt Wizards in 29 x 3.0" flavour 🙄

A few photos of the Bontrager Chupacabra have popped up on Facebook over the last week though, maybe just in time before Spring.

Anyone seen either in the UK yet?

Keeping the hope alive.... does anyone know if there is an ETA for the 29x3 dirt wizard? or is it still 'a' spring sometime as per Surlys last vid?

Ison are showing May but don't read anything into that date

Just a heads up, 29" Dirt Wizards are now available.

http://www.ison-distribution.com/english/product.php?part=TYSUFD93

I just bought a pair from Charlie the Bikemonger (other retailers are available).

The mythical tyres are now reality! These should transform the way this bike is used, with some proper grip on loose wet surfaces.

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What fork have you got in there bedmaker? nice bike btw...

[url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/running-a-krampus-through-the-winter ]only a week late zigzag...[/url]

Ha, did a quick search and didn't see that thread Clobber 😳

What bike/rims are you running them on zigzag?

It's a Bluto Clobber, 100mm

Looks good

At last...just in time for winter coming...if summer ever decides to appear.

Clobber - Member

What bike/rims are you running them on zigzag?

Well, here it is at last - the much anticipated Dirt Wizard. It's much smaller in size than Knard, seems that the rumours about "downsizing" the DW so it fits better with sus-forks were true.
Still labeled as 29x3" but here's the comparison(Ryde Enduro 35mm rims):

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So Surly have gone full circle on this one :(( - initially th e DW was going to be a 2.8" tyre. According to their blog - they decided to make it a full 3", thus causing a delay - and after seeming like years of waiting - the finished product is a 2.5" tyre ? Epic fail Surly.

futon river crossing - Member
...they decided to make it a full 3", thus causing a delay - and after seeming like years of waiting - the finished product is a 2.5" tyre ? Epic fail Surly.

I think that could be a major win. It's more likely to fit in ordinary 29ers that have decent mud clearance, ie most UK designed bikes. There's a very small pool of 29er+ frames.

The 26" DW made a major improvement to my 26" bike, so I would expect the same on a 29er. (The extra volume just makes it work so much better).

For comparison's sake, what 2.5" are you talking about? Most seem to be for DH use rather than lightweight XC like the DW.

For comparisons we do need a standardised measuring system, tyre sizes are all over the place, and rarely accurate. It has been suggested that a bead to bead measurement with the tyre spread flat would at least give a truer indication of potential volume when inflated.

Looks like there might be a bit of stretch after a few rides

http://forums.mtbr.com/27-5-29/surly-dirt-wizard-29-actual-measurements-966031.html

Here's the Dirt Wizard on my 'customised' Reba RLT.

As above they are smaller so there's considerably more clearance on the Reba than with the Chronicle.

Haven't ridden them yet but I'd be tempted to keep this set up with the bouncy fork and just use the Chronicle on the rigid fork.

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Very impressed by mine. I've had the chance to use them in the slop and gloop that is the summer and they work bloody well. Looking at them, they shouldn't roll quickly on Tarmac but they do. Mounted on a 50mm rim, they have a reassuring girth that is noticeably better on rocky and loose trails than Hans Damfs mounted on a regular width 29er rim. They even work pretty well on sand. Obviously not as well as a full fat tyre but substantially better than a more traditional set up. Worth the wait? I would say so. 😀