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Yes I know, but has anyone actually tried them and are they worth paying more than the sintered or semi metallic / organic for?
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jono
Yep, I like them. In fact, for the 'Summer' at least, I've removed my sintered pads and stuck them in on both my bikes (Both Avid Elixir equipped fwiw).
I'll second that question!!
IMO yes. Very good pads and had no problems with them.
I use them quite happily, no massive pad failures yet. They seem to be a pretty good all year round choice, with more bite than sintered pads and longer life than organics. I've not directly compared them with sintered or organic but they do seem to do what they say on the tin.
My pad of choice, best allrounder I've used. Good for endurance downhill racing, winter xc mud, weeks up french mountains... Good life, good power, and cheap. But quite sensitive to proper braking in- and easy to misjudge this as they can make good power even when not broken in.
Oh... They might make more noise than most, not sure about that- all my brakes squeal, I've got the bad touch so it makes no difference.
Cheers, looks like I'll be getting some.
I've been using them and they seem pretty good (nothing to benchmark against though) - they stop me fine! Last set only lasted about a month but I've been riding in conditions with water well over my hubs in that time period quite a few times and no shortage of mud. As previously mentioned they certainly do squeal though only when wet for me, I also notice that they lose some performance once wet. Going to try sintered ones next and see what they're like as I haven't tried any others.
Personally find them not very powerful compared to other pads, and they squeal like piggies in the wet.
They're ok in the dry, but there are better, in the wet they're not nice though.
But there are lots of people that like them.
Get them in when it's dry or they disintegrate very quickly (about 45 minutes round Calderdale). Get them properly run in when it's dry though and they are excellent.
Right, just fitted a new set and to recap what I was saying about breaking in properly... With most brands, my approach is to break the pads in until I get good, consistent, immediate power- they generally start out useless then bed in. With the kevlars, they start out strong, and so it's easy to think they're bedded in when they're not. So you basically need to bed them in the same as any other pad, even though they don't feel like they need it.
How should you bed them in? I'm terrible I just put new pads in and ride!
How should you bed them in? I'm terrible I just put new pads in and ride!
You nailed it, put in bike ride a bit. Brake a bit keep riding
Instructions to break them in are on the SS packets. You need to do 10-20 hard stops without locking the wheels. This generates enough heat to transfer a small amount of pad material to the disk. When you have done it right you will know as the disks will be scorching. If you spray water on them as SS say they will fizz/sizzle. Its the same as high performance car pads. You need to bed the pad material to the disk and also heat cycle the pads to harden the pad material.
I have a set of SS kevlars waiting to be bedded in for PdS this weekend so will see how they go. Have used their sintered before and they last us forever, but I'm not a heavy chap nor do I brake that much or drag the brakes (may change this weekend!)
Oh and when you are bedding in, dont not come to a complete stop on the brakes! It will transfer too much pad material and cause a high spot on the disk which you will feel as judder. Be sure to ride around for 5 mins on no brakes afterwards to cool them down. I do it on a hill near our house, down it to break them in and back up to cool down.
Thanks for all the info,
Jono.