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Hello all and welcome to the thread for the 3rd STW Zwift Series. This time we will be meeting up in Winter when it is perhaps less desirable to ride outside. I have got in early with the thread recognising that people might be busy over the next couple of weeks.
Because we are MTBers and you might be missing some fat tyre action, this series has a bit of a twist – in order to tie-in with both STW and Zwift and to promote the MTB aspect the entire series will be ridden on a MTB. If you don’t have a personal MTB then it will default you to the Zwift MTB – the good news is there isn’t much to choose between them so it will equalize the playing field!
Because of this tie-in we have been able to be a bit more extravagant on course choices and there should be a few that throw chaos into the ranks.
There will be 3 races within the race as previously with an extra special optional 4th race that you can choose to join in with.
1. The main handicap race – as per previous events a handicap will be applied to your finish time based on your weight and FTP and the entire group is sorted by race time plus handicap and points distributed accordingly. This is based on the best of 5 races points from the 6 races (all sprint points count towards this total).
2. The sprint jersey – Sprint points are awarded for the Top 5 finishers on a sprint section (10,6,4,2,1 points) or the fastest lap time on circuit race. The points are awarded on each sprint section on a race but only for the fastest time across that section during the whole race (i.e you may get a couple of chances to get a good time).
3. The GC race – This is based on the shortest time to complete all 6 stages and is sorted by traditional Zwift cat. The zwift cat is determined on the weight and FTP that you supply me so may not match your ZP cat as that takes historical data into account.
This series there is an optional 4th race event. There are no points awarded for this event but the winner gets bragging rights! Throughout the whole event you can complete the Repack Ridge section on Zwift. This is the steering section. There are details here on how to find it - https://zwiftinsider.com/find-zwifts-new-mountain-bike-steering-course/. So between the 5th January and the 9th Feb have a go at this course and see if you can get the fastest time. I will keep a record of the times – just grab a screenshot at the end, let me know you time and how many stars you achieved for the steering element. For every star missed 10 seconds will be added to your time (the maximum score is 10) so precision as well as speed is rewarded. As not everyone has steering there are no points awarded for this but should be fun to see how everyone gets on with the top 3 declared on the 9th Feb!
So onto the courses and dates for this Race Series…
5th January 19:30 – Jungle Circuit (3 laps)
A tough lap for 3 races with the climb and the sprint across the bridge. Starts from the pens near the windmill so you have to get to the start line first. Sprint points are awarded for the fastest lap time.
https://zwiftinsider.com/route/jungle-circuit/
12th January 19.30 – Bologna TT Circuit
Up the hill in Bologna just the once. Should be short and sharp! This will be on MTBs but using the TT launch – riders will go off in 10 second intervals and there will be no drafting so it is purely you vs the course.
https://zwiftinsider.com/route/time-trial-lap/
19th January 19:30 – Road to Ruins
This has been done as a STW Hare and Hounds race before. There are no hares or hounds this time but this makes for an interesting circuit going from the seaside area onto the jungle before racing back into town.
https://zwiftinsider.com/route/road-to-ruins/
26th January 19:30 – Crit City (Downtown Dolphin – 8 Laps)
A fat tyre crit! This should really mix it up. There will be lapping and general chaos on this route due to the short length. Again expect a short sharp attempt! Sprint points awarded for the mini-climb prime section and for the fastest lap time.
https://zwiftinsider.com/route/downtown-dolphin/
2nd February 19.30 – Seaside Sprint (4 laps)
Something different that isn’t often on the calendar. The esses make for great racing and lots of opportunities to bag the sprint points. Points also awarded for the fastest lap time.
https://zwiftinsider.com/route/seaside-sprint/
9th February 19:30 – Keith Hill Afterparty
The queen stage once again at the end. A good climb to finish the series on. Sprint points awarded for the one sprint section.
https://zwiftinsider.com/route/keith-hill-after-party/
How do I sign up?
Either post on here letting me know your FTP and weight or send me a PM. Latest date to accept FTP and weight changes (recognising that it is Christmas) will be the 3rd Jan. Once you register I will send you the links over for the races which will open up in the Zwift Companion app and allow you to join!
If you cant make all the races – don’t worry. Join in where you can as the more people join in the better the event.
I look forward to seeing you all (virtually) on the start line!
Awesome mate.. I'll try my best to come and play a bit more to help break up winter. 🙂
I'll be starting with a different FTP though i think.
Love the MTB plan.. 😀
Yes please. Fitness regain plan has already started. Love the MTB action. With the speed reduction this will bring going.tommake the draft leas effective as well. I assume.yiunare assigning bikes rather than needing everyone to pick a MTB?
Yeh the events will assign you onto a MTB (if you don't have one you get the standard Zwift one).
Count me in 🙂
I'll do a weigh in and a ramp test before the 3rd...
Yeah, count me in. I don't think my details have changed drastically, but I'll also do a weigh-in & ramp test before the 3rd to update the awesome power gains that Christmas will undoubtedly bring!
I'm in!
My new smart trainer arrived this morning, so a few weeks to get used to actually feeling the hills in Zwift.
My FTP is going to plummet too.
Fastest lap points on dolphin and seaside? Dear lord you are evil.
Due to my work shift pattern and the 1930 start (pre dinner at ~1730 would work much better for me, but I appreciate I'm probably in a tiny minority in this regard), my attendance will be sporadic, but please put me down for a spot.
I'll give my depressing stats closer to the start date!
I'm in, weight and FTP to be confirmed 🙂
awesome, good call with the bikes, maybe we should do an en masse group warm-up/cooldown so we can have a big group of bumblebee MTBs trundling around Watopia 🤣
Excellent that the support of Zwift is continuing giving us access to the special routes, etc... funny that we will have a more professional TT start than the Thursday WTRL Team Time Trial 😂😂
Yep I’m in please. Hopefully I’ll be able to do more events in this series.
Looking forward to it, I have it on some good authority (Eric Min) that there will be some gravel routes in the next update, whenever that is.
He posted a few pictures during his last ride I understand.
Yes please, I've been a bit ad-hoc through the previous two series but really enjoyed it!
In!
Me too please.
I'm in. Looks great. Looking forward to it. I will update my weight and FTP after Christmas!
I notice you didn't borrow zwiftinsider's description of Keith Hill Afterparty as a "mostly flat route".
Nah....why the hell would I want to get involved in this??? It was painful and I was slow before, now I have to do it on a MTB??? Are you crazy??
Count me in! 😉
I'm in(ish, as usual)
Some of those routes'll take a while on an MTB won't they ? Do you have an idea how long for any of them Robbo ?
Everything will be under the hour (some under 30 mins - Bolgna) apart from Keith Hill which I think might be in the 1 he 15 min region depending how fast you are!
The MTB is slower but not massively so - think 3-4 mins over the space of an hour ride.
Yep I think I'll have my mojo back by then. Barely done anything recently so no way my ftp is still what it was. I'll need to send a revised figure once I've done a ramp test.
The MTB is slower but not massively so – think 3-4 mins over the space of an hour ride.
So really what you're saying is it'll just be beer and wine and brandy and port and turkey and pigs in blankets and Christmas pudding and cheese and and mince pies and chocolate and cake to blame when we're 20 minutes slower than usual round bologna?
Count me in please, hoping not to need any mid race sit downs or have any electronicals next year.
I’ll be up for that robbo, though I may miss a few with work commitments. Have to try and find a gym with a wattbike close to where I’m working me thinks!
Yes please.
Type 2 freezing cold garage fun you say? In.
Splendid. Count me in. I'll update my stats post Xmas if when they have moved.
Thanks for organising. Count me in please.
Count me in Robbo same numbers, going to do a new test over Xmas so will update then.
cheers
Got to be done really....
i am in too - not sure i can make all of those but will join what I can
Yes please. Will supply ftp and post Xmas weight!! in NY.
Yes please. Stats to be confirmed post-Xmas 😀
I'm in. Looking forward to riding the mtb. Is there a Tron mtb I can work towards over the next few weeks 😉
Yes please Robbo! I'll confirm ftp and weight once I've accounted for all the pies in Jan 🙂
I’m in. Sounds like an interesting mix and loads of routes I’ve never seen before. FTP and weight to follow.
After the last six sessions of sublime suffering, why would I possibly say no.
So count me in please Robbo.
Count me in again please Rob. Will do ramp test in Jan.
Had a bit of a tough time in my home life so missed the autumn series races.
Count me in for this one please Rob, great shout on the MTB’s as well!
Count me in please.
Just a thought, like some people did on the jungle route previously can we switch bikes to something lighter and more aero on parts don’t suit the MTB?
If we start from the windmill pens there really isn't enough tarmac to make that worthwhile @kirky72.
@nixie, I was using the jungle route last time as an example but meaning for any races with any tarmac. Tongue in cheek😀
No it will be the same bike throughout.
Great response so far guys - thanks! Will get everyone down on the spreadsheet so you can check your registration on there. I like the way that no-one wants to declare FTP and weight before Xmas - do we see who can get the biggest W/kg decrease!
Anyone going to have a go at the Repack Ridge optional race?
I will yes. Not done it for ages. Think I only did it once in fact!
I'm planning a ramp test at the beginning of the year so will use the FTP from that.
Yeah, I'll certainly give repack a go. I'm hoping it's enough random chance that I might be in with a shot there are least.
Is repack ridge controlled by phone and/or sterzo? Or is it only compatible with one of the two?
Full gravel or dirt routes in an update would be good. The issue with the non-road sections at the moment is that (apart from the jungle loop) they are always outweighed by the road bits on the routes they are part of. I wonder if they are engineering an algorithm which makes the gravel bikes worthwhile anywhere in the game. (ironically, short essentially pointless gravel bits joining together primarily road is a perfect simulation of how I ride gravel in real life but IRL that demands a gravel bike AND I only do it because I don't have big mainly gravel routes available to me.).
You can use your phone or sterzo if you have one. You just need to mount your phone on the handlebars somehow if you use your phone. Seems to work fairly well in terms of sensitivity.
Repack ridge - you can have a phone running the Zwift companion on your bars, and it needs a secure mount 🙂
Not seen the sterzo before, seems like overkill for what is currently a bit of a niche feature.
I reckon you'd only need one of them to make it work.
awesome sauce! Loving the fact we are now MTB only. Good stuff!
Count me in. Use current stats, but will review and update after crimbo!
I best go and try to practice sprinting!
I was under the impression that Repack Ridge was actually the only thing you COULDN'T use the proper (Sterzo) steering on, as it was developed with a different tech than the in-race steering. Not got one though so haven't tried!You can use your phone or sterzo if you have one.
I suspect the winner of the RR comp will be whoever has the most patience to redo the course over and over again until perfect 🤣 I will have a crack though
Count me in on this if you'll let a newbie join you! Only started doing Zwift races these last few weeks and they're much more fun (and painful) than just doing the training, seem to push harder when you have a leaderboard to climb up.
Any particular things I should know about? Haven't you all been tagging your names with STW and using a particular jersey? Plenty of time to sort it all out. Will be up for Repack Ridge too, something to attack when I'm full of energy.
only for the Thursday Team Time Trial (which is also awesome & you are welcome to join, there's a separate thread for that!). For these races as it's just us you can look as individual as you like!!Haven’t you all been tagging your names with STW and using a particular jersey?
@reluctantjumper of course - anyone is welcome!
No particular requirements - I will send over the invites - they are proper Zwift events like any other race but aren't visible to other users unless you have the private invite and code.
Some people like to wear the Bumblebee jersey but its up to you what jersey you go for.
Any particular things I should know about?
Your first race has to be on a uni cycle.
On rollers
And live streamed.
Count me in, I am hoping to have a smart trainer by then so will do a ramp test on it before the start of the new series.
I'm in for this if I don't need to change my tag? It sounds like more fun than the wtrl!
FTP and weight might change after Christmas but currently 230W and 70kg......
38 signed up so far in 24 hours. I have added everyone to the below list. If i have missed you let me know.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QPxMGqez2VsN-4mD17f90t06NzqSLMMoGe4cUEK1E3U/edit?usp=sharing
@reluctantjumper can you let me know your Zwift Username please? I think I have everyone else.
@ahote no need to change your tag 🙂
@robbo1234biking sorry to be a right picky so and so, but can you edit my name so it reads:
v7fmp
NOT:
v7mfp
thanking you and much love!
Oh, I think there was a problem with the links I have Robbo - there was only me signed up and seemingly I've got to do 12 laps of crit city on my lonesome. I'd probably still lose.
@v7fmp - corrected apologies about that - should be sorted
@dangeourbrain - I will re-send them out a bit closer to the time to make sure everyone has the right ones.
That's a point for everyone really - the links will get sent out early in the New Year.
Well done for organising again Robbo.
I'm in!
Ahhhh. I misunderstood when you said "38 signed up so far in 24 hours" and took it to mean you'd given too much credit and expected me to use my initiative and sign onto one's I'd proof read 😂
Ooh can I get in on this too, please?
Looked fun from the other thread as I've just been getting back into Zwifting but not in time for the previous series. Can't wait to see just how uncompetitive I am!
Yes please add me too. Never used the MTB in Zwift yet but will give the Repack Ridge challenge a go. Thank you Robbo for all your work on these.
will give repack ago not tried it yet with the sterzo yet.
Please can I sign up.
@itsonlymelee @msjhes2 @ahote can you let me know your Zwift username please so I can add it to the spreadsheet
I think I have everyone else so far
Thanks for organising this robbo, could you add me in please.
Furrybreeks Maclean (STW)
Ooooh yes please I'm in too, new ftp 258w 🙁 weight 71.2Kg.
Cheers robbo
Cheers @robbo1234biking
Zwift username is "It's OnlyMeLee"
Will get you my weight and up to date FTP before we kick off.
I can make the 1st one as Mrs Hoppy isn't riding ZRL until the following week. I'll get you an FTP and weight in the new year, Surgery and Christmas will mean that both are wrong at the moment.
Is the new jungle circuit available as an option?
Robbo, I've just ridden the serpentine figure 8. It's a new route an 90-95% gravel. Could be worth adding
It's similar distance to 3 laps but a bit more interesting with different directions on the roads. Only 2 goes at Power-ups though.
@weeksy I rode Serpentine 8 with Robbo and Stumpy earlier this week and I said the same thing at the time. I think Rob is looking into it, it would be a good route, much better than the old jungle loop.
Can I sign up please? New to the forum, my Zwift username is Daniel Baron ftp 270w weight 80kg. Cheers
Absolutely Daniel. Will get the links out in the new year when I send a reminder to everyone to register up to day weights and ftps. Looking at Zwift though lots of people seem to be riding this year.
Thankyou, yes it’s been a perfect storm of lockdown, working from home, kids off school and garbage weather which led me to Zwift, on the plus side I’m looking forward to being fit for spring.
Good Afternoon all. Everyone who has registered should have received a PM from me with the links to the 6 races of the series.
If I missed you of the list - apologies! Just let me know and I will get the details over to you.
Still lots of space for more racers (in fact we dont have a limit) so if you want to join in post on here or PM me with your weight and FTP and I will get the links over to you.