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Yup.95% of my 20 mins race best.... which i'm unikely to manage in this race as i'm nowhere near my best 🙂
But i'll be drafting with the best of them !
Makes two of us Weeksy! 🙂
Pretty flat this week then?
*Scans thread for TT monsters to draft*
😅
Well if Nixie and Phil are racing, that's your lead 2 to try and draft anyway. Although they're both a massive ask for most of us. I'll be taking the first 2km as a standard Zwift race and hitting 350w for as much of the first 2 mins as i can manage... I'll then get dumped on the next 2% up and struggle along somewhere.... But of all the courses this is likely to be 'OK' from my perspective... Not flat enough for me to do well, but flat enough for me to do reasonably.
I think the fast boys will win on the road, but whether they can pull out several minutes overall on the chasers, i'm not convinced. I think this one will favour someone who's about 75kg and putting out 26-270w.... they'll be the ones winning it after handicaps applies.
The Idea of riding a TT bike could be fun, but unfair on the others. Could work well on a flat course to prevent people sitting on. 😉
You do that. You do know that other riders can draft off a TT bike so it'd just be you that wasn't getting any benefit right?
At least R.G.V is flat for a while at the start, should give a decent draft opportunity. Douche France with the rollers first is much more difficult in that respect. Without telegraphing too much I don't see much option but trying to force a split early.
Without telegraphing too much I don’t see much option but trying to force a split early.
LOL you and Phil at 700w out the gate then !
Yeah, anyone who isn't expecting the peloton to be utterly shredded within 2 minutes has clearly not raced on Zwift before!
just got to dig deep for those first vital few minutes then try and find some good wheels to follow..
LOL you and Phil at 700w out the gate then !
😎 Not quite what I had in mind.
At least R.G.V is flat for a while at the start, should give a decent draft opportunity. Douche France with the rollers first is much more difficult in that respect. Without telegraphing too much I don’t see much option but trying to force a split early.
Unless I have the wrong end of the stick (nothing new there), riders will be setting off from the pen according to handicap, so the only split you will get is if other riders have a very similar handicap start to you?
Thought we all go at the same time? The handicap applies after the race?
Thought its a group rolling start and handicap added at the end.
Yeh rolling neutralised start and handicap added to the end. If you can hang on to someone’s wheel it will be an advantage.
Basically us high level Cs low level Bs have to team up to slow the rate of loss to Nixie etc once we are shelled while trying to dump each other out of the group before the finish.
Work together for 7/8th of the race then work against at the end.
What's the overall based on assuming you are running this as a series?
Points based on finish position or time?
Can we drop an event or not?
I know it's not serious...
Anyone employing a DS to let them know how far ahead they can let the W/Kg aliens go and still win by handicap? 😆
Tom. Points system as per F1 scoring so as follows:
25, 18, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1
You don’t have to do every event. It will be about consistency to win the series.
amazing work being put in there.. thanks!
looking forward to it, though I'm getting tanned and fat here in Greece on an all inclusive holiday!
will get some 'training in on BH mon!
DrP
Hi, thanks for organising this. I would like to join in on this but haven’t done anything much on the bike since an etape stage back in early July so am planning to do an FTP test tomorrow. Could you add my name to the list please and I’ll post an up to date ftp soon. Andrew Atkinson (stw). Cheers
Andrew
Without telegraphing too much I don’t see much option but trying to force a split early.
I'm not sure there's much telegraphing required! The only way the higher handicapped have any chance is to go off as fast as possible and hold it until our ears bleed!
Points system as per F1 scoring so as follows:
25, 18, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1
Robbo, quick suggestion on the scoring. Given that there are getting on 60 riders signed up is it worth running a more extended points allocation? BRT use these sliding scales depending on numbers in their race leagues. But quite happy to be told to naff off as you've put in a grand effort. Thanks again for organising.
Well hopefully see you all Tuesday assuming SWMBO doesn't have other plans for me since we're on holiday.
LOL you and Phil at 700w out the gate then !
😎 Not quite what I had in mind.
1700?!?
Thanks Hoppy - I like that idea although I will do points from 1-30 as per that table. Will clarify all of this etc on a post on Monday with the final rules, handicaps etc.
I'd like to volunteer for the position of official STW lantern rouge, please.
85kG - Stop laughing Weeksy, 215 FTP
We're following each other on zwift already - get us 🙂
Simon Figg Pack STW Hare
Did my first race today in preparation for the big one on Tuesday! Not a pleasant experience but already signed up for another on Sunday 🤷🏼♂️ managed to stay with The front group until 4ks to go, more weetabix required I reckon.
Not been on Zwift for a while, or the real thing.
Going to hurt on Tuesday. Mind you, it will hurt even if I had been riding every day.Lol
Might need to update my weight a few kg's (every little helps when your around 100kg!😆) dependent upon pizza consumption tomorrow!
Looking forward to it. I may even oil the chain on the Dawes Kickback that lives on the turbo.
I'm going to be eating my own bodyweight in tangfastics 20 mins before it.
Mmmmm, tangfastics! I swear they put cocaine in them, that and plain chocolate homewheat biscuits.
How do I join I'm 86kg with ftp 280
^^-pm op with stats and forum/ Zwift name I think.
Just done it cheers
Just a reminder if you want to give this a go can you let me know by this evening. I will post the handicaps tomorrow night.
Don’t worry if you can’t make any etc the more the merrier!
I'll likely either not be riding event 1 or just cruising round with a mate. I'm not actually sure I can even turn the pedals yet after crashing. Hand is strapped up and I can barely walk.
righto...
I've got the laptop etc all working, and doing a test Twitch stream today...
there's a high chance it all explodes by tomorrow! but as there's large numbers in the race, it MIGHT be an interesting watch if it still works tomorrow eve!
DrP
OK so just over 4 hours until the Grand Departe. Below is a summary of everything that has been decided over the last few pages. Mostly importantly remember the start and finish information and don't be late! No late joins are allowed. You should have the invite.
STW Series Rules/Information
1. This is a handicap race series. The race will be a mass start with the handicap applied to the results at the end of the race. Your handicap can be found at the following link.
2. Any bike is allowed – choose what you think best suits the course. Also wear what kit you want. Traditionally we have worn the bumblebee for Zwift meetups on STW so if you are unsure that would be a good choice.
3. Race starts – as the meetup function is being used we will have a rolling neutralised start. Once the meetup starts I will gently pedal at about 100W. You should adjust your position to congregate on me (I will be very visible with a bright yellow beacon if you haven’t used the meetup function before). As soon as everyone is in a swarm/peloton I will type GO GO GO which will appear across everyone’s screen – then race how you want!
4. Race finish – the race ends when you cross the blue banner. Make sure you race until the blue banner not any other finish lines/sprint line etc on course. Because meetup view is being used this may be a few hundred metres past a sprint line or similar. It is clearly visible on both the map, the distance countdown on the top bar and in view on the screen. Once you finish you will get a results screen displayed. Once this happens you can choose to leave the game, cool down etc. I will stop short of the race finish to remain in the game (my time isn’t counted anyway to any points finish) and provide encouragement and ensure everyone gets across the line (I might just be last anyway!).
5. Results – I will publish the results on the forum within an hour or so of everyone finishing. There will be the overall results. Top 3 from A, B, C and D and then the handicapped results. Points for the series title (and prizes) will be based on the handicapped results. Zwift Cats are based on the cats here and the FTP and weight you provided me so might not match historical data in ZP etc.
6. Points – points will be awarded for 1st through to 30th so the series will award consistency and hopefully give everyone an opportunity to score results. The points awarded are as per this link (26-30) column.
7. In game comms – It is a meetup so only messages sent in the race will be seen. I will prob type some messages etc and reminders for encouragement during the race but feel free to join in with any banter, let us know you have fallen of your turbo, the cat has run through the spinning rear wheel and got its tail caught in the chain, you need another frozen sausage etc!!
8. HAVE FUN AND ENJOY YOURSELF!
4 hours? Is it today? I thought it was tomorrow! Is today tomorrow already?
is tomorrow...
DrP
Should have said 24 hours! Oops
DON'T PANIC!
(I panicked)
How long do we think this race will last? For a probably cat c ish. 1hr?
I've done two c cat races of about the same distance this week and they were both less than 45 mins
Thanks!
Yeh this is a fast course so would expect C’s to be between 35 and 40 mins
I'm really looking forward to it, although I did a hard (for me) ride around Ladybower on Sat and my legs are still really sore 😁
It's gonna be interesting....
This week I have mostly been eating.
Poor timing for the start of the series to coincide with a fortnight off. I think it may result in utter failure to recoup any of my 7.5 mins handicap. On the plus side mind I've spent a week mostly eating and drinking.
Need to PM you my new weight robbo1234biking, only 2kg lighter but every little helps.Lol
Down from 102kg to 100kg, spot on.
Just checked out the route for RGV, flat, which is good for me, but I'm no sprinter.
Should be good, painful fun.😁
I'm preparing hard. Nice 'easy' sweet spot session up a virtual french mountain and a few beers.
Hold on, no prepping allowed!
Mandatory 12" pizza every day and definitely no riding/prepping for you nixie.😆
I haven’t got an invitation to the meet-up. Am I just being daft?
^^ Hmm... Got my invite mate, might be worth PMing robbo?
It’s Douglas Drysdale (I have no recollection whatsoever how my STW name arose!). I followed Robbo previously so hopefully he can add me.
Yeah, you're not on the meet up list at the moment, I'm sure robbo will sort for you though.
You sent him your stats/ Zwift tag already made?
Cheers! Think I might regret it
You should have one now!
brian.... tell me about it!
I'm so sluggish, having spent 10 days boozing and sitting!
tried a quick ride yesterday..ooh... 180w was challenging .... eek!
ooh well...
DrP
DrP
tried a quick ride yesterday..ooh… 180w was challenging …. eek!
Welcome to my world 🙂
I'm out 🙁
Broken Scaphoid
Weeksy - log on and give people abuse anyway!
I’m out 🙁
Broken Scaphoid
Gutted, hope it heals quickly.
I won't be 'racing' tonight. I'm going to make the most of the nice weather and go for a real outdoor ride with a few real people!
Can't race next week either 🙁 as I'm in work.
Hopefully able to race week 3.
I’m out 🙁
Broken Scaphoid
Sorry to hear that Weeksy...healing vibes!
well, my cast comes off this afternoon, so as long as it's the left hand, and you don't mind wearing the SMELLIEST THINGS KNOWN TO MAN on your arm, i'll post it to you...
DrP
Already got one thanks mate... Fitted this morning.
Ungrateful..... 🙁
DrP
Sorry but you will all have to wait to witness just how bad jaminb is at zwift till next week - I have a serious case of saddle soreness after 4 days of WRT! Will I still be able to login and watch?
Will I still be able to login and watch?
Don't see why not. Nothing forcing you to pedal :D.
Yeh if you join the meet-up but don’t pedal at the start you will just sit on the start line. You can then do fan view and follow different riders by either selecting them on the bar on the right or use the companion app. Or you can watch DrPs twitch stream!
weeksy
Subscriber
I’m out 🙁Broken Scaphoid
Ah crap. I think I read you had hurt your wrist in an off but didn't know anything was broken?
Heal fast matey!
Right, I'm going to line up my excuses for later, ok guys? I might not use them all but it's possible depending on how bad my rubber band legs are.
Too much pizza/beer.
Dicky stomach.
Not been on bike/zwift for ages.
Bluetooth dropouts.
I might think of more during the 15 mile ride too.😁
Apologies if I’ve missed this...are there any bike restrictions, I.e. no TT bikes?
This is going to be funny tonight as most of us are going to go off far too fast to try and show we are capable and to keep up with the fast ones, then we will die a most horrible death before the end 🙂
Not a clue on that one, bike choice I mean.
Id probably be better off riding a tt bike as I doubt I'll be able to hold onto any wheels for long. I'm going to try though.😃
oop north
Subscriber
This is going to be funny tonight as most of us are going to go off far too fast to try and show we are capable and to keep up with the fast ones, then we will die a most horrible death before the end
Only 15 miles but it's not going to be pleasant.lol
Riders' choice, the more TT bikes the better I'd say.
I'm on the fence between my normal Tron bike or a TT bike. Don't really want to have to iTT though.
I'll be needing all the draft I can get haha!