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Do you not find problems putting a new tube in without a little bit of air and then inflating with CO2?
Blow in it through the valve before insertion. I managed a 2 minute tyre change at the Road Bike Show earlier this year. The Pro showed how to do it in 1 minute 😯 - and that's remove wheel, remove tyre, change replace inner tube, inflate with C02 and refit wheel in frame. I lost 10 seconds trying to get the wheel in the frame.
For me it's the issue with swapping it around 3 bikes
Yeah, I know I could buy 3 lots of kit but I haven't
Just unclip and stick it on that days bike? Mines got a sprung plastic clip that clips it to the back of the saddle rails, takes a few seconds to fit (but then I've only got one road bike).
For me it's the issue with swapping it around 3 bikes
Yeah, I know I could buy 3 lots of kit but I haven't
With mine (a topeak wedge one) its click, click, frrrpp (international phonetic of undoing Velcro). Work of but 5 seconds.
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Genuine question - what's the issue that some people have with using saddle packs?
Apaprently there's some self reverential website set up by Belgian worshipping Americans which has made a list of "rules"......
Saddle bags are horrible, and not just cause they look awful. When you're out of the saddle they make the bike feel like a pile of crap.
Phone, keys, gps in one pocket.
Pump, wallet (with money, quick links, puncture repair kit), tyre levers, one tube in one pocket.
Food in another pocket.
No stupidly full pockets, nothing too heavy, nothing on the bike, and the jersey balanced neatly.
I only take a waterproof if I know I'm going to get wet or if I'm going over 1000m or so on a not ridiculously hot day. It goes in the pocket with my phone and such, very easily.
Arms warmers, casquettes, gloves, maps, and anything else that can be made flat goes up inside the jersey, either at the back or the front. Note this has to be done as neatly as possible to avoid 'lumpage'. If you've got a proper fitting jersey stuff won't fall out. This is absolutely awesome in winter BTW - don't wear gloves, put them in your jersey. When your hands get cold, take them out, and they will be lovely and warm. When your hands start getting sweaty, take them off straight away and put them back in. Then you never get cold or wet hands.
i have a tiny seatpack i use occasionally, but i find i rub it with my thighs. I guess the cut away nature of SLR's makes this more likely than if you were using a Turbo or similar?
I`ve encouraged the Mrs to get involved, she drives the car behind with three spare bikes on the top and all the kit inside plus a doctor!! in my dreams!!!! rear pockets carry 2 energy bars and a gel in left, phone ,gilet in middle 2 tubes on right, depending on length of ride energy sweets up left leg so they just pop out one at a time as i need them. tiny saddle bag with allen keys, single zero tabs,Emergency gel, repair kit and money. My favourite little trick is a pump forced up the inside of my seat tube with an elastic band round it to stop any rattle, works a treat and always amazes others!!
All lies. Roadies carry their stuff up their arse. No wonder they have that pained expression on their faces the whole time.
Admit it you filthy lot.
[i]Saddle bags are horrible, and not just cause they look awful. When you're out of the saddle they make the bike feel like a pile of crap.[/i]
A tiny seat pack makes your bike feel like crap? Really, you must have a shit bike
Mind you I notice you wear a casquette rather than a plain old cap so you clearly know what you're talking about. I would imagine you also have bidons rather than plain old water bottles.
Pretentious, never. 🙄
I used to think saddle bags were horrid till I got a "Lezyne Micro Caddy (small)"
Its tiny, it fits a tool, an innertube, some levers, a patch kit and a chain link. It uses some big neoprene straps to hold it firmly to the saddle rails so it doesnt rattle and it doesnt sway about. There are no clips involved.
Its a real weight off my back.
i have no aesthetic or handling qualms about a small pack under the seat, holds card, cash, phone, keys, tubes, multitool, patches, tyre levers quite easily. the only thing i still haven't got sussed is the pump issue. the under-cage mount for it doesn't fit cos of the carbon tubes profile, and it's too large to fit in a jersey pocket. think i may need a slightly smaller one...
the only thing i still haven't got sussed is the pump issue. the under-cage mount for it doesn't fit cos of the carbon tubes profile, and it's too large to fit in a jersey pocket. think i may need a slightly smaller one...
CO2 rocks for that reason - gets to roadies pressures easier than a tiny pump, fast which is great for a group and if you buy cyclinders online cheap enough. A bit dubious envionmentally perhaps throwing away all those cylinders but its only going to be half a dozen a year or so....
A tiny seat pack makes your bike feel like crap? Really, you must have a shit bikeMind you I notice you wear a casquette rather than a plain old cap so you clearly know what you're talking about. I would imagine you also have bidons rather than plain old water bottles.
Pretentious, never.
When you're out of the saddle, the bike is rocking underneath you, with the saddle moving the most, side to side. If you strap a load of weight to the saddle, it's instantaneously noticeable, quite obviously. And a casquette is what they're called, I'm not 80, and the ones I wear aren't made out of tweed. Also it's water bottle, I'm not French.
When you're out of the saddle, the bike is rocking underneath you, with the saddle moving the most, side to side. If you strap a load of weight to the saddle, it's instantaneously noticeable, quite obviously.
How much weight are we talking about here. If i carry a seat pack, total weight will be c150grams, which when your running an SLR, takes the weight to around about the weight of a Rolls, Turbo, etc. hardly a lot of weight?
If you have a decent attachment it doesn't move either. I doubt many people re talking about carradice long flaps in this debate, something that might be a bit of an issue at times.
Pockets.
Just had a day training in France, and everything went in the pockets.
2 tubes
1 pump
1 jacket
phone, passport cash.
As it was a very steady 70 miles, one small bottle was more than enough.
I can remove all my tyres without levers.
I eat before and after not during.
And a casquette is what they're called, I'm not 80, and the ones I wear aren't made out of tweed. Also it's water bottle, I'm not French.
If it is casquette then it is bidon, if it is cap then it is water bottle.
Genuine question - what's the issue that some people have with using saddle packs?
Genuine answer, they look gash/pants/amateur and sound like cow bells when the contents have been removed.
mrmo - you are obviously not as [s]pretentious[/s] pro as RealMan.
Seriously? Did you see mintimperials post on page 1?oldgit - Member
Genuine answer, they look gash/pants/amateur
How much weight are we talking about here. If i carry a seat pack, total weight will be c150grams,
What's the weight of the seatpack itself? 80g? What have you got that's that light that can't go in your pocket?
I just prefer not to carry anything on my back that I don't have to, so I use Arkel seatpacks on all my bikes. They're in 2 parts with a roll top waterproof liner that has tools/ inner tube/ tire lever/ CO2 cannister/ spare link/ patch kit, and a rubberised outer that attaches to the saddle. I've used them for years and they're great - if I want to ride a different bike I just transfer the inner pack from one bike to another.
I rather think some of you IT helpdesk guys and students worry far, far too much about stupid internet rules rather than going out and enjoying your riding.
I rather think some of you IT helpdesk guys and students worry far, far too much about stupid internet rules rather than going out and enjoying your riding.
Riding? Heavens, you don't [i]ride[/i] your bikes, do you? They'll get all dirty!
[i]Genuine answer, they look gash/pants/amateur and sound like cow bells when the contents have been removed.[/i]
Hate to break this to you but you are an amateur not a pro. I don't really worry how my arundel pack sounds with the contents removed as I'm unlikely to ride the bike without its contents. Sometimes I use a seat pack and sometimes I don't, I don't get hung up on how it looks.
I'm not likely to take style tips from a boy who wears a kom jersey.
I've got a little Topeak saddle pack with the following in it:
- 2 Tubes
- Multi tool
- Tyre Levers
- Phone
- Keys
Frame mounted pump (under the water bottle) and a bottle or two depending on distance/time to be covered.
I don't believe I was giving you style tips, I was simply stating what I thought/know. You can't expect [i]everything[/i] I say to change your life 🙂
Also to the people who keep cards, cash, phone, keys etc. in saddle bags, a decent pot hole can remove a saddle bag, as can any opportunist at a cafe or whatever. Also with it being behind and under you, it's really easy not to notice it's gone. Never happened to me, but have heard of it, so if I was using one, it would just be to store tubes and jackets etc.
i've had 'nanas fall out of my jersey pockets.
your pockets aren't safe/secure places either - stay at home!
(and i'd never be able to fit a banana worth eating in my saddle bag)
food and drink carried by the domestique, spares by the team car.......anything else is cycle touring :FACT:
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best place for nanas is down the shorts....
you put your Gran down your shorts?! 😯 😯
you put your Gran down your shorts
course not, not [i]my[/i] gran....
[i]i've had 'nanas fall out of my jersey pockets.
your pockets aren't safe/secure places either - stay at home!
(and i'd never be able to fit a banana worth eating in my saddle bag)[/i]
I always buy jerseys with an extra zip pocket as I don't fancy sticking my phone in an open pocket.