[Closed] Stunning Steel - where art thou?

Sorry - I don't have a recommendation (although if I was buying a new frame and looking for compliant, then the Soul would be at the top of my list). I have a BFe and the front does wander - I'm running a 150mm fork and a 40mm stem. This doesn't both me at all. If I was bothered, I'd go for a travel adjustable fork so that I could drop the front end to 120mm.

Everybody loves a Stanton, right? Maybe the Sherpa is the one for you 🙂

I like the Sherpa, but I plan to run plain 'ol 650b, not + or 29"

Pace RC127 - apparently singletrack are doing a review for their next issue. 2.3 grand for the full build or 500 frame only.

Timberwolf? - [url= http://singletrackmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/the-timberwolf-in-its-natural-environment-video/ ]so beautiful...[/url] not sure if they're available yet.

I've been looking around for the same thing - steely hardtail- I ended up going with a ragley blue pig because a) I found one cheap and b) I needed (wanted...) one quickly after I terminally broke my old bike. I'd have preferred 27.5 as well but beggars can't be choosers.

For a nice steel frame I'd be looking for quality tubes (I'm a sucker for thin & whippy) and fillet brazing. I'd also prefer an integrated seat clamp. There must be a few good builders - the recently reviewed Swarf Cycles' frame looked nice.

I can confirm that Ritchey make amazing bikes
[img] [/img]

This is probably a little racy for your needs though!

Not sure if its of any help but I've had a mk2 (I think) Soul and it was good. Not mind blowingly good but just good. I've currently got a Curtis S1 and all those things that steel frames are meant to be - it ticks all those boxes. Its lovely - so much so I was trying to flog it but I've decided to keep it now, maybe 1x10 it but definitely fit some meatier wheels and rubber to it. If the AM7 is a little to gnar then I'm sure Gary would/does a less gnar version.

Yeah this is more like it.

I saw one of them there Ritchey frames in the flesh a couple weeks ago at Brighton Big Dog, looked really sweet. Potentially a wee bit skinny tubed fo my fat ass.

I've owned (and thoroughly enjoyed) a Mk2 and Mk3 Soul hence my swaying towards a Soul 275.
A custom AM7 (A Mincer 7?) gives me a thrill just thinking about it though..

Been ogling the Privee Oka - looks good but very little detail on build/tubing etc. Not mad on paint jobs either

Keep em coming

Can't comment on any alternatives other than the Soul (they're great), but I will say that an adjustable fork really works well with this kind of bike. I run my Revelations from 110-140 as appropriate and really appreciate the flexibility to adjust them on the fly.

My Revs are new so a travel change requires and air spring swap unfortunately

Pace RC127 - apparently singletrack are doing a review for their next issue. 2.3 grand for the full build or 500 frame only.

Can't put my finger on exactly why, but the Pace doesn't float my stoat.

Groovy cycles in the states for me if I had the $$$
Hmm maybe not this one
[img] [/img]

Maybe not either
[img] [/img]

This one looks quite cool
[img] [/img]

Shand bahookie? though you may need custom options for 27.5?

Chromags keep drawing me in, I'm sure they'd do something suitable....

Curtis do the XC frames as well as the AM, so it's inconceivable that they couldn't build you something along the lines of what you're after.

Curtis without a doubt but get saving.

Chromag are pretty droolsome. I particulary love the brightly coloured one ridden by Jinya Nishiwaki.

Field in Sheffield are worth looking up. They have done a couple of mountain bike frames, and they are lovely.

The new Marin Pine Mountain looks very good in my opinion: http://www.marinbikes.com/gb/bikes/description/2016-pine-mountain-2
l.e. cart wheels, nvm...

You could also take a look at Rob English's bikes: http://www.englishcycles.com/cat/custombikes/mountainbikes/

Not sure on the answer, but it's probably worthy of debate, but a zingy steel frame in new skool flavour of 30.9 ST, 44 HT, bolt through rear etc doesn't so much smell of zingy. I went from a pre CEN Cove HJ to an aluminium 120 HT and tbh it's only a few hairs between them in terms of trail zing. All horses for courses though. I'd love a 120 travel long low slack custom HT. Just to confuse you, look at the 2016 Orange Clockwork 120 for gnar-.

For drooling over steel, fetch a bucket & mop then browse the Saffron site...

http://www.saffronframeworks.com/builds/

Seen some of them in the flesh, gorgeous. Stunning details on them.

I had a steel 456, the handling was good fun but it was harsh. The C456 sorted the harshness but felt a bit dead/uninspiring. My soul is brilliant. Good balance between stiffness for handling and ride quality. Fabulous bike.
(All 26")

what about CURTIS bikes? all handmade in the good old UK

New Orange P7?
Seven Sola in steel?
Pipedream Mucchu
Sanderson do a 650b frame

The last Curtis I picked up was heavier than pig iron

TJD

Swarf

Loving that Ritchey Timberline.

I'm too precious to live with the knobby front mech cable stops running down the frame though.. they would be completely redundant. Well, in as much as for £975 frame only, i'd want as close to perfection as I bloody choose.

NS Bikes Eccentric Cromo.

Noticed CRC bumped the price up by £100 on the first batch when they sold well.

Yes, today's research has bumped the Eccentric up to at least joint 1st place on my list. Pound for pound I think it possibly ticks most boxes

Those Saffron bikes are lovely. The road bikes look mainly like road bikes (philistine, I know) but Joey Burt's and Mike Hall's are great. Beautiful and interesting.

Not sure of the budget but check out 44 Bikes in the U.S. Stunning.

what about CURTIS bikes? all handmade in the good old UK

Keep up at the back.

😆

I have a ritchey and I have several compressed discs in my neck and lower back and it is a revelation in terms of comfort did several 60 milers on it before I rotated a disc lifting something....it climbs well descends quickly but it is so balanced I am 95 kgs and it has coped with my lack of skill. Built in different guises rigid, 100mm forks but currently in the shed with 120mm and a dropper...alas not ridden
[img] https://www.flickr.com/gp/50879761@N05/169Y4W [/img]

[img] https://www.flickr.com/gp/50879761@N05/5E8007 [/img]

I'm surprised no-ones mentioned Curtis frames yet

Can't put my finger on exactly why, but the Pace doesn't float my stoat.

I test rode one of their demo fleet today, just to see what I thought, and I loved it, in fact loved it so much I've come away with a frame to build up, it was a complete revelation, long travel front with a short back end was just sublime.

Swallow Cycles should be on here for their steel brazed full suspension

benji - thats interesting, may I ask what specifically you liked about it?

I'm considering the NS Bikes Essentric - which also has the long TT / short stays set up

[s]Swallow[/s] Starling Cycles should be on here for their steel brazed full suspension

slimjim78 - Member
I'm surprised no-ones mentioned Curtis frames yet
POSTED 4 DAYS AGO # REPORT-POST

They did...on the first page?

Oh boy.

I'd be looking at Dekerf, money no object. If a bit rich then the RC127 or new P7.

I had a look at Dekerf being a bit of a retro fan, but this time around I'm not a huge fan of the seat stay arrangement. Seem too pricey aswell

RC127 had potential, but.. Rack eyelets?!

benji - thats interesting, may I ask what specifically you liked about it?

It was just a very smooth ride, the geometry is spot on, handled slow speed tight hairpins with ease, held a line without wandering about at slow and high speeds, and when it got rough just seemed to smooth it out and stay stable. Rode it off things I wouldn't normally ride, it just made everything seem easy, a chuck aboutable grin inducing ride.

The rack eyelets are a funny item to see, but I did ask Adrian about this, and it was so it had versatility and wanted to run a rack you could. I agree it would probably be better without them aesthetically but they never bothered me whilst riding.

It arrived tonight, and looks stunning in the yellow with magenta(pink) graphics, building it up with a Fox Float 34 up front, and a mix of shimano saint,hope and thomson components. Coming in well under the price of the complete bike that Pace was offering, not that that was a bad build.

Just built a Cielo 29er. Lovely bike, lovely finish, great ride. Reassuringly expensive, but not outrageous.

How about a Curtis !

Waterford
DeSalvo
Gunnar
Zanconato
Kirk
Curtlo
Carl Strong
Geekhouse

A few off the top of my head.

I knwo the Op said no + or 29 but...

Oddity.
Mmmm.

Or a SIR.9 run b+. 😉

I can't believe no-one's mentioned Curtis yet

I'd definitely look at a Curtis.

About the Pace... I'm glad to hear that it sounds as nice to ride as it looks. I'm seriously, seriously tempted to flog all my bikes and build a 127 as my only one. Pikes, Hope/Stans wheelset, Renthal bars, Reverb and sensible SLX drivetrain. Shame they dropped the stealth routing for the dropper though 🙁

dialled bikes.

PA for more xc or alpine for gnar.

i love mine

Another vote for Chromag here. I've got a Samurai 65. Its fantastic and built by Chris DeKerf as well. Plus you can choose any colour in the rainbow for it.

Demon frame works for lugs and incredible finish, TJD for pushing steel, inventive ideas and machining everything, Robin Mather for Fillet, Swarf & Curtis for 'that will ride really well' the instant you see it.

Those Saffron bikes are lovely but I've just seen that they charge a £15 'corkage' fee for every component they fit if it's not bought through them, and that's on top of the £150 assembly costs. That's taking the p**s.