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Not often I want to rant but WTF is it with some folk
Getting on the Glasgow train yesterday with my bike there is a chap piling up his luggage in the bike space despite the being a sign saying its for bikes and a luggage space nearer to his seat. Asked him to move the stuff so I could get my bike on and was treated to a rant about bikes going on for free and taking up seat spaces and leaving mud every where and he just wouldn't shut up! chap must have been in his 60s. He was really angry and upset walking off muttering. I asked him if he always got so angry over trivia 🙂
Its not unusual for folk to block the cycle space with luggage despite there being clear signs and even huff and puff a bit when asked to move it so I can get my bike on but this guy was outrageous ranting at me.
And breathe
Last time this happened to me I just moved the luggage...
The guy moved his stuff straight away - just ranted as he did it
Did you say please ??
A guy had a rant at me at Fort William once cos I parked my car outside his house (the cheek !) I agreed to move it if he asked me politely. He nearly exploded then mustered some good manners and said please. I was a bit scared but you should always politely stand up to bullies and call their bluff.
Outside his house on his drive or on the public highway?
On the public street, of course not on his driveway !! Is that what you do ??
Just wondering why he was so stroppy. Seen it done though.
It's so much healthier to come and bitch about it on the net.
A street with lots of B & Bs. I could see his point, but no need to shout at a stranger. Was cool in the end.
smell_it that is what t'internet is for...
Never understood why people get so possessive over space that isn't actually theirs.
I certainly ws not particularly rude or gave himhe reason to rant. He was piling the stuff up in the space as I got on the train saw me and started huffing and puffing - I probably sighed and said "Could you move the bags please" which then triggered the rant - the basis of which seemed to be that bikes go for free and take up seats.
On my cycle I often see a space that someone has put 4 bags of gravel in to reserve for themselves. Its public parking, no markings. Really tempted to take them for good (they cant be disabled if they have to move them everyday).
Getting on the Glasgow train...
well theres your problem 🙂
[b]I probably sighed [/b]and said "Could you move the bags please"
Maybe you need to work on your delivery.
What - "move the bags you fat stroppy old git"?
Ah I see now.
When I read the title I presumed it referred to the person with the bike, sighing because someone used the wrong storage space for their bags.
Getting on the Glasgow train yesterday with my bike there is a chap piling up his luggage in the bike space despite the being a sign saying its for bikes and a luggage space nearer to his seat.
Maybe he objected to your perceived ownership of the space? Maybe he was one of a number of highly trained PITA's who are now tailing you to respond to trespass issues
Had this too, just remember there are plenty of idiots around.
Also had the move your car thing.
[i]What - "move the bags you fat stroppy [b]old git[/b]"? [/i]
No need for that, TJ.
Sowwy 😳
could you not share?
just put your bike on top of his luggage?
luggage room on modern trains is woeful. have you ever been on the East coast main line train out of Kings Cross on a Bank Holiday Friday?
Its a modern train used by commuters - plenty room for luggage. If there are cases there then you cannot get the bikes out of the way of the buffet trolley. there is a sign saying no luggage in this space
The guy was being deliberately awkward - looking for an excuse to rant. We ll he didn't reckon on the power of TJ did he!
amazing isn't it. you get sociopath cretins like that on internet forums too!
Bikes go for free, huh? Hope you told him to courier his luggage next time?
'do you know who the **** I am, and do you know what's inside this rucksack, old man? I suggest you move at least three carriages along'
Had the same thing last year also in Glasgow, going up to Aviemore. The only difference was mid rant the conductor appeared behind him and told him in no uncertain terms to shift the cases or leave the train. An amazing transformation took place as he couldn't have been more help after that. 😉
You should have parked your bikes two abreast, he would have seen the error of his ways and accommodated you by giving you at least a cars width of space. 😉
Minor point of pedantry here.
Shouldn't it be "Two Stroppy Gits on the Train"?
😉
Na - he was on his own 🙂
you should have helped him out by puting his luggage onto the platform at "Linlithgow" 😉
😆
Had a similar if slightly different thing a few years ago - bikes parked neatly in the appropriate space on a virtually empty train and saw some bloke staring at them, then he kicked mine over quite deliberately. When I got up he just launched off into an incredibly angry rant and just kept going and yelling. He eventually stormed off to a different carriage muttering about bikes and when he got out did the whole staring thorugh the windows at me. No idea what set him off - never did anything to upset him.
It does really p*** me off how bikes are sometimes regarded as a lower form of life in this way. It seems acceptable to a large swathe of society.
ononeorange, I would have dropped him on the spot, no questions asked.
fair enough, self defence isn't it?
GW - Memberyou should have helped him out by puting his luggage onto the platform at "Linlithgow"
A bit like "getting off at Haymarket" ?
you have a short memory TJ you silly old snob!
I asked him if he always got so angry over trivia
Only the once TJ?
You should have said the same thing 4 or 5 times then perhaps that would have convinced him. 😉
GW - I got the reference
Nick 🙂
Kingkong - would have loved to but inevitably I would have ended up in the wrong and in court. He was a compelete a4se though.
You could just tell him to f-off or you'll snap his neck, or throw his bags off the train at the next stop.
As a regular user of trains with the bike, I honestly think I'd get less dirty looks if I swapped the bike for an 'i love hitler' t shirt.
Was on the platform once and there was a lady in a wheelchair about 6 feet from me and the station porter was having a chat with her as the train arrives...
Porter: oh it looks like a nice big empty train today so there should be plenty of space for you mrs wheelchair (name changed)
mrs wheelchair: well as long as I'm nowhere near any bloody bikes....
Heil mein furher...
Funnily enough I had similar experience this morning on the train to New Mills- was exceptionally busy and there was a fair few bikes on, including mine. All in the space by the door which I believe is primarily for bikes but not sure what the policy is for other luggage really.
So there were about 5 bikes, taking up all the available space. A young mother with a pushchair and child then got on and started demanding that we 'move the bikes as there's nowhere for the pushchair'.
I was just weighing up whether I really wanted to get in an argument with a young mother, with child by herself on the middle of a busy train when someone made some space further down and she managed to stow her stuff there. She was pretty pissed off and cursing us when she went past though.
Not really sure of the etiquette here to be fair. I'd normally go out my way to be polite or help someone in that position if I could but there was no other space for the bikes and there's no way I'd be getting off the train and waiting for the next one because of that.
I know if I'd got in an argument with her, public opinion on the train would be very much on her side and I'd be looking quite the c**t though.
Looking back actually I don't see why she couldn't have folded the pushchair up and put it on the rack above the bikes, there was plenty space there. I presume all pushchairs do do that?
Hate it when the trains are that busy, would probably have gone elsewhere for today's ride if I knew in advance.
Today on Mersey rail Northern line, bank holiday sunday and a seaside route, so they bung on 3 coach trains,get on and stand in doorway,no problems as the bike spaces is full of bikes, and the wheelchair space, naughtily has a bike in it.
Mrs Angry gets on with pushchair, despite another 5 doors available to enter by she chooses my doors, then she moans about bikes being on the train, about no seats, about having to stand,(seats where available, but she didnt want to share a bay with strangers),when it came to me turn to alight would she move faster than a constipated turd, no she blocked the door, till i said watch the oil on the bike.
Coming back a transformer station had caught fire, so no trains whatsoever, (electric trains)buses repalcing trains on a 28 station route, at one station i cycled past there where 5 prams waiting for the single repalcement bus.
But i did meet a chap on a Surly, who let me have a go on his bike, thanks.
Result ,never take a bike on a train on bank holidays.
Yes, they all do as long as the storage shelf underneath the seat isn't full of stuff. it can sometimes be a slight PITA to empty the shelf but if you use public transport often you should be used to it, buses round here only let ONE unfolded pushchair on so if you happen to board a bus with one already on it HAS to be folded.I don't see why she couldn't have folded the pushchair up and put it on the rack above the bikes, there was plenty space there. I presume all pushchairs do do that?