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I couldn't find reference in a search.
Someone taking Strava a little too personally:

https://mpora.com/road-cycling/addicted-strava-viral-thread-shows-road-cyclist-australia-lose-plot-cyber-bullt-takes-kom#aHRui55xQ13ydtht.97

This is a link to the ride comments that started all this:
https://www.strava.com/activities/1198470686

Creating 800 strava segments is a little odd though!

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 1:48 pm
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Amusing, but I'm always a bit wary when someone appears that irrational. I do wonder what else might be going on in their lives that they appear to have lost their perspective on something so trivial. 🙂

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:02 pm
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And people say Strava sucks the joy out the cycling! This is absolutely glorious.

Sadly Brendan seems to have deleted his account now.

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:03 pm
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Amusing, but I'm always a bit wary when someone appears that irrational. I do wonder what else might be going on in their lives that they appear to have lost their perspective on something so trivial.

I notice in the comments that he had apparently done seven "Everests". That tells me all I need to know.

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:03 pm
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Sadly Brendan seems to have deleted his account now.
Ah - it was still there as ". ." until a few mins ago.

I'm down to a handful of mainly local obscure KOMs now, so it looks like it's time to make some enemies and go "deep in the pain cave". Who shall I pick on - oh - they're all faster than me 🙁

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:09 pm
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[i]I’ve seriously considered deleting my Strava account[/i]

fricken roadies 😆

There are some proper nut jobs on Strava *cough*

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:14 pm
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WTF (other than a famous mountain) is an Everest?

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:23 pm
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A lad I know a bit and I’ve ridden with a a couple of time lately seems to target my times (not KOMs, as I’m nkt that quick) off road in the local area. He seesm to go for one or two a ride slowing before them and taking a rest then hitting them.

I’m generally not bothered, I just wish he’d enjoy his riding more.

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:34 pm
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WTF (other than a famous mountain) is an Everest?

You ride up and down the same bit of road until you hit 8,848m.

Once I can kind-of understand, but seven times...

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:35 pm
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Public records of performance are there to be broken and seeing other people's segment times will add some extra motivation for some riders.

If you can't handle that others will beat your at some time, don't makes your times and/or segments public. As Chris Rhea sang, "Don't you ever think no one's better than you."

People sometimes create segments that don't take account that riders could approach the segment start from a different way, which could instantly give other riders a massive speed advantage at the start, which means you have no chance of competing in the game unless you can produce a massive power output compared to others over the latter half of a segment.

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:35 pm
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I tend to agree that someone who overreacts in the way he has, probably has problems. Hilarious though it is, I'm not sure that the world laughing at him is necessarily a good thing.

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:38 pm
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A lad I know a bit and I’ve ridden with a a couple of time lately seems to target my times (not KOMs, as I’m nkt that quick) off road in the local area. He seesm to go for one or two a ride slowing before them and taking a rest then hitting them.

Sounds like you're on the "strava is not a game!" spectrum! 🙂

So if you're 5th, 8th, 13th whatever, what makes you think he's targeting your 13th place rather than top ten, or just trying to better his 19th?

Sounds like you are a bit bothered if you've gone into his rides and worked out where he's resting?

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:39 pm
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I’d seen him on the trails stopping before one short but steep climb, so wondered what he was doing.

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:41 pm
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Fair enough. edited mine, but took a minute while I took a phone call.

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:44 pm
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I’d seen him on the trails stopping before one short but steep climb, so wondered what he was doing.

Were you in a camouflaged hide in deep surveillance mode?

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:45 pm
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People sometimes create segments that don't take account that riders could approach the segment start from a different way, which could instantly give other riders a massive speed advantage at the start, which means you have no chance of competing in the game unless you can produce a massive power output compared to others over the latter half of a segment.
If your segment's that short it's worthless anyway, IMO

case in point is a road segment for which I share the KoM (the other lad deserves it more) on 33 sec.
It's a downhill s-bend on fairly shoddy tarmac and often wet or gravelly.
I've ridden it loads. I don't smash down it because I'm not stoopid but the day of my best time I had a following wind into the top of it, so I'm nearly 3 seconds up on my "mate" at half way (so he must've taken the dodgy second bend pretty bloody hard - kudos, though counselling may be more help). Total bollocks that I'm top* and if somebody bags it I'm not going back for it

*of fifteen thousand, bitches !! 😆 🙄

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:50 pm
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Haha, brilliant 🙂

My wife and I had a minor, but amusing tit for tat on strava for a while too. She set up a fake male account and took a local KOM. I then took it back. She then took it again....etc. This carried on for a few months. It really is an insignificant nothing of a hill, but was somehow shoehorned into every ride for a while.

Obviously we have grown up now and stopped all this nonsense.

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 2:54 pm
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FFS, some people really need some real stuff to worry about.

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 3:13 pm
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@badlywireddog I was just riding my bike about

 
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[quote=mcnultycop ]I’m generally not bothered, I just wish he’d enjoy his riding more.

How do you know he's not? I've not gone quite as far as stopping for a complete rest before a segment, but I certainly have gone out on rides where I take most of the ride easy in order to target a couple of segments. Some of the most enjoyable rides I've done (and not just because of the "thrill" of chasing KOMs - I usually go fairly hard all ride, so having a reason to ride easy makes a refreshing change).

Not that I get all worked up when people "steal" my KOMs - I have to admit I'm not even sure if I still have any. It is after all just a game, and it's not compulsory to play by the same rules as anybody else. I couldn't care less if anybody else thinks targeting segments is a silly thing to do.

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 3:40 pm
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And let's be honest, beating your friends' times on Strava can be enjoyable.

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 3:41 pm
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Obviously we have grown up now and stopped all this nonsense.

I say exactly the same thing every time [s]my OH wins an argument[/s] [i]I concede an argument with my OH[/i]...........

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 3:58 pm
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I can spend weeks identifying weak KOM's.

Isn't this the whole point of Strava?

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 4:06 pm
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I can spend weeks identifying weak KOM's.
I do that just by riding the segment 😐

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 4:08 pm
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https://www.segmentninja.com/map

Tells you segments that will get you wind assist, which are normally segments travelling north-west because of the prevailing wind in the UK, but currently in Southampton it's unusually ones heading south-east. 😉

 
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*normally travelling north east, D'oh!

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 5:51 pm
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Sad ****s Racing Against Virtual Aresholes is what a few of my mates call it. I use it just to track myself getting worse and worse. My aim is to take the last spot on every local segment. I reckon if I can carry on getting in worse shape I'll have smashed it by 2021

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 7:26 pm
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I like Mrs Yak's style - how long before you realised it was her?

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 7:37 pm
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I steal a few off the local lads if can, I give them a smile next day at school drop off

 
Posted : 05/10/2017 8:01 pm
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Amusing, but I'm always a bit wary when someone appears that irrational. I do wonder what else might be going on in their lives that they appear to have lost their perspective on something so trivia

local to me though I don't know him has a decent blog (now shut) with local climbs, good photos and well researched historical stuff - think missed out on riding last year because of some horrible illness - got riding again and then broke a few bones when someone cut across him on a shared path...needs perspective on Strava but yep not been having an easy time of it I reckon

 
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@NoddyEtc - there's a [url= https://www.strava.com/segments/2464117 ]segment like that near us[/url]. It starts from a T-junction in the bottom of a huge dip, the bar of the T is the bigger road with the side road being the column of the T. If you approach the segment from the side road you've already been climbing for nearly a Km whereas if you ride along the top of the T then you've nearly a KM of fast straight descending to pick up speed (I chicken out at about 70kmh!) and you are halfway up the segment before needing to put in any serious amount of effort. Guess how I rode it to get my PB? 😀

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 10:23 am
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I like Mrs Yak's style - how long before you realised it was her?

I knew from the start! Brazen tactics indeed.

Don't worry, as a work-from-home'er, I eventually took advantage of optimum conditions, and properly took it*, thus ensuring the 'uh oh' email arrived at her work desk.

Like I said, we have now grown up and stopped all this nonsense. 🙂

* Now someone else has properly taken it. Maybe she does have another secret username.... ?

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 10:30 am
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The only Strava incident I had was when somebody I was following logged a 240km ride averaging 40km/h and taking lots of KOMs. I left a comment asking him if he was in a motor vehicle (which he blatantly was 60km/h up a steep hill..) and that some people might not be happy that he had taken their KOMs. His responde was to call me white trash and then block me 🙄

 
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If you want to get lots of cups on Strava ... change sex! 😆

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 10:55 am
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Someone did that here, but when my wife started taking his QoMs he soon changed back.

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 11:15 am
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Stealing my koms 😆 Always use strava to log my rides. During race season I sometimes search for segments that'll coincide with my training for that day (1min sprints, 4x5 vo2 max, 2x20 ftp etc) sometimes I'll get a king if the wind is favourable, more often than not I don't though. But now race season is over I turn into a full on strava whore for two months until I start my winter turbo work in November in readiness for next years season. I'll look through the rides of the people I follow and if a segment catches my eye I'll remember it for the next time I go out. It's always creates a bit of banter between us all and we treat it as it is, a bit of a laugh. If I ever get the uh oh email I always congratulate/give them kudos if it's legit. One of my friends who I go out riding with once said "You never own a kom, you only borrow them until someone quicker than you takes it"

 
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If you want to get lots of cups on Strava ... change sex!

I'm not bitter or anything, but when you do a nice gentle bimble around and get nothing for it and then one of the girls in the party shows you her Strava, which has an endless load of QoMs I do find myself gritting my teeth and muttering "it's just a game, it's just a game" under my breath.

 
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I get the "Oooh! I've got cups!" line from my wife after many of our rides 🙄

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 11:40 am
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Out of interest, where can you see which KOM/10's you have currently ?

 
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[quote=twisty ]The only Strava incident I had was when somebody I was following logged a 240km ride averaging 40km/h and taking lots of KOMs. I left a comment asking him if he was in a motor vehicle (which he blatantly was 60km/h up a steep hill..) and that some people might not be happy that he had taken their KOMs. His responde was to call me white trash and then block me

Why bother leaving a comment? Just flag it, which instantly removes it from leaderboards and it's then up to the rider to prove it's legit.

Linky to the ride, and I'll do it for you (though I'd be surprised if one of the previous KOMs hadn't already - some people do take it far too seriously 😉 )

 
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[quote=weeksy ]Out of interest, where can you see which KOM/10's you have currently ?

veloviewer

 
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Out of interest, where can you see which KOM/10's you have currently ?

You can see your KOMs/QOMs via your profile then click on the KOM tab. You might have to be a premium member to see your top tens (I'm not) but if you use Veloviewer then you can get all that and more.

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 11:59 am
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The annoying thing about the KOM tab is that it doesn't show any where you're joint KOM. Not that I take it seriously or anything 🙄

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 3:45 pm
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Does Veloviewer show you your top 10s?

Not that I'm bothered about it of course.

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 3:46 pm
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It must be ripe for a punch up at Swinley with the amount of Strava warriors who frequent it

 
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Does Veloviewer show you your top 10s?

Yes, and more. There's a tab on the main screen named "Your segments". This lists your current position on every segment you've ever ridden 😀

 
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Yes, and more. There's a tab on the main screen named "Your segments". This lists your current position on every segment you've ever ridden

Cheers, so you can organise it to rank your results in order of awesomeness rather than having to sift through tons of segments looking for the good stuff?

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 4:15 pm
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I notice in the comments that he had apparently done seven "Everests". That tells me all I need to know.

probably can't pronounce Everest properly either

 
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The annoying thing about the KOM tab is that it doesn't show any where you're joint KOM. Not that I take it seriously or anything

I only have one proper KOM, which shows on the Strava KOM tab and I share the time with 2 other people. I was the first one to get that time though, maybe it has something to do with that.

Why bother leaving a comment? Just flag it,

I didn't realise people could still flag rides, I've just worked out how to do it again.

 
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@cha****ng

That's the default ordering: KOMs then 2nd, 3rd, etc.

Note that until you subscribe VV only takes the last 25 rides. The subscription cost is £10/year

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 5:18 pm
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Marvellous thanks.

Just cancelled Strava Premium and that sounds like a bargain in comparison

 
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I use Strava as a record of how far I've ridden each year and for a bit of friendly banter with my riding mates.

I once forgot to turn it off before driving home and got a KoM on the A27 near Portsmouth. The previous king was slightly miffed (to say the least) and sent me a rather rude message about it which I got to read before I even realised what had happened. 😀

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 7:28 pm
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Maybe I'll go out in my car with my sons gps lol

 
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a rather rude message

Dick head

Did he not think maybe he’s set off in the car and left his gps on by mistake

 
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I once forgot to turn it off before driving home and got a KoM on the A27 near Portsmouth. The previous king was slightly miffed (to say the least) and sent me a rather rude message about it which I got to read before I even realised what had happened.

Go back and do it again at 1kph above his average for the segment. 🙂

 
Posted : 06/10/2017 8:02 pm

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