[Closed] Strava adiction

So setting up a virtual gravity enduro would be considered bad form?

There's certainly a place for racing downhills offroad and these are generally the conditions in which real as opposed to virtual downhill racing occurs.
To state the obvious to the Strava downhill racer wannabe's - downhill racing involves one way traffic, appropriate spacing between riders and the absence of other users on the trail.
These are not the conditons that are present on most bridleways, multiuse paths or even most large trail centres.
If your balls are that big then why don't you stop virtual racing the XC boys on red trails and take up real downhill racing.

Some very boring people on this forum 🙄

Some very boring people on this forum

No, more like, some grown ups who realise that killing someones dog isn't going to do mountain biking any good.

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If your balls are that big then why don't you stop virtual racing the XC boys on red trails and take up real downhill racing.

whilst 'racing' up a road to get a genuine KOM makes perfect sense to me, ripping the shit out of downhill bridleways does not.

it's not being boring, it's just the alternative is being ****ing stupid.

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So setting up a virtual gravity enduro would be considered bad form?

by some yes, by others no.

but it would be very good way of getting mountain bikes banned from some/most/all of the National parks...

(ot at least giving very good ammunition to those who wish to see us banned)

Doesn't sounds much more dangerous than a lot of the races along busy roads imo. Depends where you have it.

All the willy waving about riding downhill being a true show of skill seems a bit weak. There's a thin line between skill and stupid, much like the guy who killed himself going at 50mph in a 30.

I like the full course laps around trail centers and popular loops 🙂 Should make it good fun visiting somewhere new and sticking a score down.

C'mon guys, there's something to be said for applying a shred of common sense. Obviously if it's a mixed use trail then be aware of possible sentient obstacles.....just like cheeky riding in general. We shouldn't need rules and regulations to protect us from ourselves.

Hate to sound unsympathetic but that guy was clearly suffering from a bad case of natural selection.

I don't know about you lot but I ride at the same speed downhill whether I'm recording it with Strava or not. It's fun to go fast down hills......offroad I might add, it's idiotic on the road.

Finding now that I can judge how well I was riding based on the VAM, and see where I can improve....

Highest I've got is 1500 so far: http://app.strava.com/segments/712667

Not sure how it calculates this but i decided to look at the climbs i did in majorca and found this minor one to be 7269!!

http://app.strava.com/rides/5077291#96618397

Some very boring people on this forum

Very true, I have seen people try and out do each other at trail centres bridleways and everywhere else long before GPS tracking or Helmet Cams were available.

As much as people want to be first to the top people want to be first to the bottom.

I always ride (just about) to the trail and on shared use to the level of visibility. On trail centres I leave a good gap at the start of a section and if I'm first out of a group will ride with more thought as to who is round the next corner, and if your sat on the board walks at Afan having a picnic then expect so loud suggestions as to where to put your sandwiches!!

As for racing XC boys on red routes it looks like a good DH race practice tool, next race I do I will be setting up the segments and seeing how I progress over the day and if there are 2 or 3 of us there then we will be comparing times to see how we can get faster.

As usual life rule number 1 applies don't be a t*** and it will generally be OK

as for the "track changes" "wet or dry" "he cut a corner" stuff about the times not being comparable, since I got to Oz I've started to see why people say whinging pom.....

We shouldn't need rules and regulations to protect us from ourselves.

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whilst i agree that we shouldn't need rules to protect us from ourselves, the sad reality is there are a lot of very stupid and selfish people around. As i said earlier, it is about time and place, if you know a track is clear fine, but a shared use track on a summer sunday afternoon, you are a fool.

I don't know about you lot but I ride at the same speed downhill whether I'm recording it with Strava or not. It's fun to go fast down hills......offroad I might add, it's idiotic on the road.

People do ride faster though, and that's the problem! I hit far far higher speeds on the road than off, even without trying. Is that idiotic?!

Not at all, but doing 50 through a 30 zone is. Just to clarify, I meant going overly fast, not road riding in general. Pretty much the only similarity between road and mountain biking is the BSO between the legs, they're completely different in almost every other respect. You can't compare them so easily, particularly in this instance.

Downhill road segments should be culled, you just can't behave like that on the road. Too many big, heavy, fast metal things involved. Maybe they could implement a system that compares the rider speeds to the limit for that section of road and then deletes the segments which encourage riders to ride like idiots. That said, there's plenty of unrestricted mountain descents knocking about.

Is this the right place to gloat about beating the reigning world xc champ over a segment? 🙂
[url= http://app.strava.com/rides/6441029#121576288 ]Cheshire Cat[/url]

The rider I "beat" is Catherine Pendrell (google her)

For the record, this is a one way mountain bike trail and there were no other riders, hikers,dogs, cats or horses on or near the trail when I rode thru' . I give that record about two weeks max before some young ripper thrashes my time

Logged on again for a laugh. Looks like it's gone from absolutely jack all to some XC pro setting unbeatable times in about 2 weeks on most routes up the nearest hill. I managed to knock 4 minutes of my record (23min to 19min) and he's managed another 6 minutes quicker than that.

If endomondo was last year's app, strava this year's, I'll wait for 2013's fad.

I got 3rd fastest on spooky woods descent the other day (no walkers, dogs or oncoming traffic to be seen)

I have lost my only road KOM by one sec and it upset me much more than I expected!

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Hi,

I hope someone can help me. I have just created some local segments which appear in my KOM ut when I search the area they don't appear?

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It will only upload the last two weeks data from my Garmin and not the last 12 months that are on there 🙁

Hammy - it does that for me too. some sections never show up when i ride them again either.

Yeah, my names Wookster and I'm an addict.......I wouldn't mind but I can't climb for toffee!! Brilliant fun though! 😀

I got 3rd fastest on spooky woods descent the other day (no walkers, dogs or oncoming traffic to be seen)

Ive got KOM for the Britney Spears descent apparently, i cant even remember doing it! (just uploaded a bunch of old ride from the GPS).

It's going to get swamped with stupid segments so suspect they'll be more control over what you see in a ride in the future. Perhaps I shouldn't complain as got KOM on a segment in Horley on Saturday - 90 riders there so maybe not so bad.

http://app.strava.com/segments/1149894

Hammy, I think it won't appear until someone else has ridden it...it will show for you but no-one else...once it is a 'public' segment and others have ridden it, I think it then shows.

I think...

It's quite annoying when you go out for a couple of hours on your road bike and make a big effort on a particular hill, to get home and find Strava saying you have done a 0.8km ride.

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Never happened to me. The main reason I use Strava now in preference to all the other iPhone GPS loggers is it's the only one that has always been 100% reliable!

It's going to get swamped with stupid segments so suspect they'll be more control over what you see in a ride in the future.

The search is sh**e imho (although Endomondo also has annoying features).
The whole segment has to be contained entirely within the map (which is not exactly massive) for it to show. I see plenty of segments on a search with only 1 ride by 1 person.

I did give it one more chance, but only cos you can bulk import. Most I'll do is wack a month's worth in in one go, just because everyone says it's the app of choice this week. But it does stupid stuff like re-re-resurrecting a segment that I've nuked three times so far after merging with another, where it split a logical climb in 2. No idea why, but I cba to faff with it. Can't complain if it keeps wanting to give me an extra KOM for 1 very short climb.

edit: oh and it keeps awarding me the silver medal for Laggan Wolftrax Orange when I basically wheeled down at little more than walking pace with a knackered back wheel, and a time nowhere near the leaders 🙂

zilog - it's my crappy smartphone GPS, but still annoying

It's going to get swamped with stupid segments so suspect they'll be more control over what you see in a ride in the future.

I think they need to start using some sort of approval system for public segments. Go and do 3 laps of Richmond Park and you'll log over 200 segments. However, Strava does show most of them as hidden segments.

Just discovered strava segments. May have a go around Glentress tomorrow to see how I do - damn, addicted already!

Can you use a different logging app? I use Oruxmaps on my Android and it has been the most reliable so far as well as most accurate and least battery hungry of the apps I've tried. I have it set to auto create a gpx file when I stop recording then I just upload the file to Strava.

The Strava app is nice but after hearing the failed recordings of a few people, I'm happy to stick with Oruxmaps.

I have used Endomondo and Garmin to record rides and then export as GPX/TCX and import into strava. I would suggest that any app that can export a gpx would work.

I have lost my only road KOM by one sec and it upset me much more than I expected!

I had something even worse happen tonight:

I had a reasonable ride and then perfect conditions on the Clifton Suspension bridge sprint.

I was chuffed with a decent run, only to find when I got home that the app had a hissy fit and decided not to record my ride.

Nooooooo.

As a closet roady, i like testing myself on the ups and the downs 😉

Went llandegla the other day and i was up to 4th on the full black circuit. quick-ish up the climbs, and quick-ish on the descents.

http://app.strava.com/rides/5941453#113244824

Same here neil bolton. about 4.45 to 6.20

is there anyway of moving my rides from sports-tracker to strava ??

If it's the old Nokia Sports Tracker you need to download them from the web site one at a time them e-mail (up to 20mb) to Strava Upload. If its the other Android one then there was a download all setting.

Uploaded all my old ones and got a KOM for Lee Q!!

cheers ,

sussed it out and looks like its one at a time for me

I did get KOM on a ski lift in the Alps !!

2 KOMS @ Afan on W2 last weekend - This is so addictive, been checking daily if they still qualify for KOMS..!!

I'm currently hooked on "A Classic Challenge from Specialized", I'm hoping to get past 50% 😳

9% here...

someone from Lynton passed 100,000 in about two weeks.

82,000ft to go by the end of the month...

bagged 3 KOM last night and 1 this morning

I'm finding it quite addictive (partly because some random emailed to challenge me)

Clifton suspension bridge.. will have to look at that.

I want park street!

someone from Lynton passed 100,000 in about two weeks.

I'm currently hooked on "A Classic Challenge from Specialized", I'm hoping to get past 50%

I clicked the join challenge button when I saw it, but it had already been going for half a month. At the time I worked out I'd have to ride just over 3000 feet every day for the whole of march. Round here, that just wasnt going to happen 🙁

Caved in and joined yesterday. Hooked.

Careful on those road descents!
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I do wish Strava had been around this guy was riding;

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[b]75,065[/b] miles in a single year.

[i]On Wednesday 12th April 1939 Tommy Godwin rode a total mileage of 175 miles bringing his year total to date to 16,944 miles[/i]

that bloke was nails.

@trickydisco You need to a perfect run to get the Clifton Suspension bridge - you've got to have an empty bridge in order to be able to nip around the 'wrong way' of the toll booths.

That and I've been trying to do it on a bleeding inefficient Zesty with Super Tacky tyres...those roadies have it easy!

I've just found out I can upload my endomondo stuff. Hot a KOM on a local hill.. big up for the steel racer on that one!

Ohh goodness me, I've gone and downloaded it.

What's all the fuss about..?

Will it make me feel knackered..?

Can I niche it into 29erSS mode or will my results just look too slow to register..?

Its customary to post a list of excuses beneath every ride you upload, so a 29er SS will be perfect 😉

Nick,

Lewis King is a former pro DH rider, now racing XC - silver medal in the vets national champs last year and a victory in the first NPS this year. Good rider.

Yep i googled him so will let him off 😆 Will have a good go at getting a better [url= http://app.strava.com/segments/937978 ]concrete hill[/url] time..

Si

Forgotten how steep that was!

Lewis has an incredible burst of pace. Given a clear shot I usually get off the line first, but in the Gorrick Enduro last year he put several bike lengths into ma and the rest of the field without trying! I'd say hills like that would be ideal for him!

I've just found out I can upload my endomondo stuff

Is it just a case of emailing them the files? I only had a few months of Garmin data for Strava, be interested to upload all my older stuff!

Forgotten how steep that was!

yes and to do it 10secs quicker is mental.

Where are all these super duper quick riders???
Strava is depressing. I can't remember the last time I was passed at my local trail centre but I am always passing people (with appropriate courtesy).
You get the impression that you ride your local trails pretty good until Strava.
I rode smoother and quicker than I think I've ever ridden yesterday only to find my rank somewhere on the 3rd page for most segments!!! 😥
Some of these times are unbelievable.
Whatever you do don't use the comparison function on segment pages!

Can anyone tell me how long an iPhone 4S lasts from full charge while running Strava? Ie how long a ride can it record?

My old 3GS lasts about 2hrs 45 then conks out.

Tried it out in anger earlier this week.
Cycled to the village shop to get some bread and crisps, and got 2nd fastest on the downhill, then KOM on the way back.
Granted the person who was previous KOM had done it as part of a 40 mile ride, rather than a 4 mile ride, but a win's a win. 😀
Now to own everything in a 1 mile radius of the house, though looking at the speed set for some of the off-road sections that seems pretty unlikely.

Went for a dusk ride yesterday evening to test out new Garmin Edge 200. Managed to get a completely off the wall top speed 45 odd mph. My Garmin said top speed was 26.5, which is more like it.

Do you. Think this is anything to do with having autopause turned on? Have now turned it off in case I am cheating.

Accidently road a section that was a segment, only just made the 3rd page...

Mattjg, 4s user here. Done a 3 hour ride in the afternoon after I have charged the phone overnight and used it normally all morning. Came back from the ride and had about 40% battery left, enough to see me through untill I go to bed (12ish).

Can anyone tell me how long an iPhone 4S lasts from full charge while running Strava? Ie how long a ride can it record?

I did an hour on the road the night before last. Went out on 21%, got back on 9%. Bluetooth and wifi off and the phone locked in my back pocket.

I use auto-pause on my Garmin, and I've not noticed any issues within Strava, but then I do pull 45 mph up most hills 😉

Seriously no issues with auto-pause here

Don't think auto pause is the problem. It could be the setting that is a bit more economical on the battery, forgot what it is called, "smart recording" or something. Takes a reading every 3 seconds iirc in stead of constantly.

OK, a question:

I've just created a segment - bit longer than most in my area (only 2 miles though). I've logged 3 rides on it but only 1 shows up on the "leaderboard" (I'm the only person there - KOM, YEAH !!!!)

How/When will strava notice that the segment exists and fill in my other efforts (and everybody else) ?
Or doesn't it work retrospectively ?

You only get on the leaderboard once with your best time.

As long as it's a public segment then I think as other people load rides it'll start using it - not sure if it processes all historical rides to match the segment or just new ones, tbh.

Update

the answer is, about 5 minutes - I'm now 7th of 11 😆

should have kept it private and retained the KOM 😉

That's a lot of computing isn't it ? - all recorded rides being compared to ewly created segments, everywhere in stravaland ??

(or is that what modern mobile phones could do in 5 minutes anyway ?)

Oh, and I've printed off a screenshot wwaswas - they can't take that away from me ( 😥 )

You upload your ride to the site, the site does the computing.

yeah, I know - but if the site is doing retrospective comparisons for all new segments that seems massive to me

(the mobile phone thing was more "or is it trivially easy for a server to do that these days ?")

I've just created a segment - bit longer than most in my area (only 2 miles though). I've logged 3 rides on it but only 1 shows up on the "leaderboard" (I'm the only person there - KOM, YEAH !!!!)

How/When will strava notice that the segment exists and fill in my other efforts (and everybody else) ?
Or doesn't it work retrospectively ?

on the left there is an option for my results. it'll show you all the times you've logged a time against that segment.

gribble, jambo: ta. I'm at the point where "saving the cost of a Garmin" is getting me halfway to the cost of a new iPhone!

As long as it's a public segment then I think as other people load rides it'll start using it - not sure if it processes all historical rides to match the segment or just new ones, tbh.

I don't know about 'all' however I have created segments that I have then seen back-filled with historic data.

on the left there is an option for my results. it'll show you all the times you've logged a time against that segment

Dunno scaredypants, but considering how bad Strava is at picking up my rides on segments I created myself it doesn't seem like it's [i]that[/i] trivial a job!

2nd on the infamous Taylored Cycles Swoop in Leigh Woods last night.

BOOOOOM!

On my steel hardtail too, 8 seconds quicker than on my Zesty!

I'll find those 2 seconds easily and get that KOM!

I've been pretty p'd off with the performance of the Strava app. I've ridden a certain downhill segment on pretty much all my rides recently and it's only picked up that segment once. Which happened to be the time when it was so slippery that I slid down rather than rode. Now it's dry and I'm flying it doesn't seem to pick it up. Going back to motion x then upload by gpx file until I can find a 2nd hand Garmin.

Yeah I've had strava miss out a few of my segments as well. Its especially annoying when you've busted a gut on a climb only to upload it and find it hasn't registered.

Never had that at all frankly.