[Closed] Strava activity feed

Pish

You can give your feedback to them via this online poll they've set up.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/NewStravaFeed

It's crap. Commutes out of order, hiding races in between old activities etc.

[url= https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/115000086764-Feedback-for-the-updated-Strava-feed ]Strava feedback[/url]

[url= https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/NewStravaFeed ]Survey[/url]

Mine is still chronological for the moment. It was the different layout that caught my eye at first. Not sure that each activity needs to be so big on screen, I can only get 1 and a bit activity on screen at a time.

What's the betting they'll offer a user-selectable feed order [i]for Premium subscribers[/i]?

Imagine having to pay for functionality...

It'll never catch on.

Hate the cluttered new look. Any suggestions for an alternative.

Bloody Awful.

There was nothing wrong with the original layout. Well it was better than this "upgrade" anyway.

Still no way to filter out people’s commutes or indoor training?

Still no way to filter out people’s commutes or indoor training?

This.

A premium account should allow me to bin all this daft zwift shit and also access everyone's routes as a gpx.

Looks better though, that’s the main thing...

It's shit, just like facebook

If you know Andy Barlow, his post err sorry activity is good.

There's a petition....
https://www.change.org/p/james-quarles-bring-back-the-strava-chronological-feed?recruiter=12334741&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition

Yuck, that's nasty

Haze - Member
Still no way to filter out people’s commutes or indoor training?

This ^^^

Damn do i get sick of seeing peoples Zwift activities especially through the winter.

However, I quite like the look of the new layout but it should always be in chronological order IMO.

Pathetic attempt to look all "Facebook" while once again not addressing a single thing the support forums have been demanding for ages.

Primarily for me...

* UK units of measurement (Celsius NOT Fahrenheit with feet, miles etc).

* Mountain biking as an activity and distinguishing segments from road and vice versa, MTB challenges distinguished from road.

* Proper privacy so even if on a leaderboard but enhanced privacy set, you can't view that persons ride without being an approved follower.

* Sharing private rides amongst friends or groups without making public.

* Closed groups where rides are private to the group only, get their own leaderboard but group rides not on public leaderboards (particularly for sensitive trails, events on private land etc).

* Management and moderation of segments and sensitive trails by trail maintainers, land owners, etc. Like Trailforks.

* Fix broken sharing to Facebook etc from web.

* Ability for users to unmatch segments. Handles bad segment matches instead of getting ride flagged by someone and having to send request to support to unmatch segments or otherwise make ride private.

* Moving components between bikes to keep history of their mileage, unretiring components, etc.

All stuff been demanded for ages, and we get nothing but fluff, bugs, roadie challenges, and Zwift garbage.

I think the Stravastix plugin for chrome on PC allows you to block zwift rides

I too was subjected to the awful new feed today - a feature that no-one wanted, and harder to implement than some of the many small filtering options that have been requested.
Stopped my premium about 18 months ago, and if anything they are going further away from getting me to restart than drawing me back.

Yup, another hater here.

Mine still appears to be chronological. I’m premium

mine appears new format, but still chronological.

Had the new format last night, opened Strava this morning to find its reverted back to the old format 😕

Still the new format with me (non Premium member)

I noticed with my rides at the weekend that segments I'd never ridden before now get a PB straight away rather than having to ride them again and then get either a PB or a second best time.

New format here too, looks OK but I would prefer not to have a third of the screen taken up with all the find friends, create a blog post, join a challenge guff on the right hand side.

Can't see much difference here.

Wonder why they are so reluctant to allow Zwift blocking. Do they anticipate a backlash from the special snowflakes upset that they're being marginalised?

New format, survey filled in and a message sent. I have no issue with the new feed as some people may like it, but I do want the option to turn it off.

I like it

All they need to do now is default to the 'You' tab because I don't follow anyone

chakaping - Member
Can't see much difference here.

Wonder why they are so reluctant to allow Zwift blocking. Do they anticipate a backlash from the special snowflakes upset that they're being marginalised?

TBH the non-Zwifters seem more precious than the Zwifters. It's not our fault our training is indoors, it doesn't suddenly make it less valid, or make it less important just because it's not outdoors. Why can't you non-Zwifters just accept, it's what some people do

All they need to do now is default to the 'You' tab because I don't follow anyone

Wouldn't the two tabs look the same in that case?

Not bothered about Zwift but it's a turbo session so why does it need a map of where you haven't been?

Wouldn't the two tabs look the same in that case?

Still the old version for me on mobile. The only Strava thing I've ever been puzzled about is why the iPad app version is so awful compared to the android version.

It's not our fault our training is indoors, it doesn't suddenly make it less valid, or make it less important just because it's not outdoors. Why can't you non-Zwifters just accept, it's what some people do

Commutes on the other hand, should probably be filtered by default - no-one wants to see athlete X doing the same 7.63mi twice a day every day...

It's the E-Zwifters I can't abide.

@fifeandy - the commute thing is odd. There's a check box to mark a ride as a commute but it appears to do next to sod all.

What's weird is people giving you kudos for each and every commute? Then again, weird is a suitable description of those who comment/give kudos on mine 🙄

Commutes on the other hand, should probably be filtered by default - no-one wants to see athlete X doing the same 7.63mi twice a day every day...

Not everyone does though. When does a commute transmute into a ride?

Not everyone does though. When does a commute transmutes into a ride?

I could tolerate the facepuke-like-feed in the app while the website still made sense. But now... not so much. Cancelled my subscription.

Chrono order went out of the window on my feed about a month ago. Wonder if many have only just noticed as the new skin on the feed is also now live.

The new look I don't mind and I'm sure I'll get used to.

The absence of chronological ordering though is bonkers.

I'm not sure middle class men being upset about the order of activities in their strava feed is the kind of thing change.org was created for, but I guess it says something about the world we live in.

I could tolerate the facepuke-like-feed in the app while the website still made sense. But now... not so much. Cancelled my subscription.

My worry with the new post/blog thing is it's opened up the idea of new, unrelated things in the activity feed. How long until we get ads from bike manufacturers etc... showing up in there.

If you use strava more as a training tool than sharing tool, it's rubbish.

The order will be back to chronological soon is my guess.

I mainly use Strava for logging rides, [i]some[/i] of the features are useful:

flyby - Who was it who shouted "Hi!" as I was screaming "STRAAAAVAAA!!!" in a vain attempt to get a KOM?

Explore/heatmap - is that dotted line on the map (I'm looking at you Scotland) sweet singletrack or a bog fest?

I use VeloViewer for better analysis and annoyingly arcane games/challenges. Eddington number, Explorer square, etc. I can get a list of Strava segments I've done ordered how I like: position; time behind leader and so on.

If you do quit Strava what are the alternatives though?

Not so bothered about the new feed view, the chronological order is a bit annoying though, it seems to be based on when they uploaded them rather than putting them back in date order. What annoys me more is just lately strava flags up PRs but doesnt tell me the position on the leaderboard. I keep having to recompute the ride to get it to fix. I dont mind seeing myself and other peoples zwift because the few friends that do use it as well I like to give them extra encourgament for riding in the winter where previously they haven't bothered. I can see why other people would want the ability to hide them though!

I'm using Runtastic MTB pro. Just started so still using Strava but I'm fed up with the KOM crap and just want a yearly record of how much I've done. I believe Runtastic has a tracker function via Facebook which will be handy for my other half.

Well, there's no shortage of alternative activity trackers! I'm the opposite though - no interest in an annual mileage figure (don't even bother logging all rides/commutes), specific ride data/analysis is what I want, and there isn't really a decent alternative to Strava IMO. I'll keep using it but probably cancel my paid membership.

Golden Cheetah is very good for data analysis of rides if you have all your rides in a suitable format (ie .fit from Garmin sports devices) on a hard drive somewhere. Bit of a learning curve. Very good for tagging rides with keywords so you can later find them easily or compare etc.

Not particularly a fan of the new layout so far, but using the free Strava with free Stravistix plugin tells me a lot about my rides/segments.

Only extra thing I would really like at the mo is personal segment records for different bikes, so if I for instance beat my PB on the Wazoo going up a hill, it would tell me... All things being equal, my Cube road bike should slaughter the Wazoo (but not by as much as I'd expect, ~50secs slower up "Old Winchester to the top").

* Proper privacy so even if on a leaderboard but enhanced privacy set, you can't view that persons ride without being an approved follower.

Can't see that happening. If you don't want to appear on the leaderboard, keep the ride private. If you to want the leaderboard, then people have to be able to check out the ride otherwise they have no way to judge if it should be flagged.

EDIT: BTW, the new timeline and layout is rubbish. Some nice design elements, but rubbish.

Strava has self appointed judges? ^^ 😯

Shouldn't really surprise me. 😕

Those looking for alternatives. There's no need to quit strava. Just stop taking it so seriously. It's free and it's up to you how much importance you put on your stats. Caring about other peoples' is just weird.

UK units of measurement (Celsius NOT Fahrenheit with feet, miles etc).

'Display Preferences'
Units & Measurement

🙄

Anyway, as any fule kno, bikeriderists use metric. Additionally, Fahrenheit is a Dutch measurement and hasn't been used in the UK for over 55 years which, last time I checked is older than you deadkenny 🙂

May as well ask for subs that cost 3 pounds, 18 shillings and 10 pence

I think he wants Celsius, miles, feet not Celsius, metres, Km.

Ah. Well. Can't have your gateau and mange it.

Strava has self appointed judges?

Err - The users.

My point is that if someone wants to appear on the leaderboards, then they need to make their ride public. If you could keep it private, then others can't really tell if the ride that just took a bucket load of KOMs was in a car or a moped. If all you know is that your KOM just got beaten by 2s but you can't see that the rest of the activity included a 50 mile stretch of 100mph down the M1 how would you know if it was legit or not?

I'm fairly ambivalent about the feed order, and as an IT pro, I actually think the new layout is pretty good.

I have a bigger issue with them buggering around with data. I've got a support case open with them at the moment, as they don't appear to be able to import data correctly nor add up. Case in point, a 4.89 mile run from Garmin Connect yesterday appeared in Strava (via direct integration) as 5 miles. Since the start of October, the training log weekly totals have actually added up to [i]more[/i] than the sum of the individual runs. And yet Strava support have been telling me they actually round distance down to one decimal place... All they can tell me is "Strava is interpreting the GPS points differently to Garmin". I don't mind that when it comes to plotting the map, but if you're importing data from another source, take the data including the totals and calculated values such as pace and display it as is.

I refer you to the 5th sentence in my last post Matts.

Otherwise race.

if you're importing data from another source, take the data including the totals and calculated values such as pace and display it as is.

Don't agree. All they do is import the GPS track, if their cleaning algorithm is different to that of Garmin then it differs. I've got rides that report more distance or less at times. I'm not so bothered though.

For the last few weeks it's been chopping off my cool downs. It obviously looks at the difference in pace and removes data it thinks it out of bounds for the activity. So if you run for a number of miles, then spend quarter of a mile walking to cool down, it's stripping the quarter mile off. I've looked at the source Garmin data, and the distance is there, along with the pace, speed, calories etc. There's no reason for Strava to try and calculate their own. The only time they need to do this, if when processing data from their own app. And it's definitely a bug, as it's only started doing it since the beginning of October.

rossa - Member

If you do quit Strava what are the alternatives though?

Depends what you want. if you are training properly and have power data I believe training peaks is better

Mine still looks chronological (although hard to tell if they've hidden an activity completely).

Typography is easier on the eye.

Otherwise neither better nor worse afaic

If all you know is that your KOM just got beaten by 2s but you can't see that the rest of the activity included a 50 mile stretch of 100mph down the M1 how would you know if it was legit or not?

Part of my commute home is along a canal towpath which runs parallel to a train line, I'm in the top 10 for a section but the KOM holder managed to average 45mph for this section on his route home.

Hmm, I think the ordering is now by time of upload, the start times of the last few rides in my activity listing go 1700, 1000, 1100, 1600 0800, 1700. The last two are my commutes which I've just uploaded.

In one way that can be useful if someone goes away for a few days then uploads all their rides when they get home. Think I prefer proper chronological though. See how it goes.

Edit: I've just set the commute flag on both my last two rides and the activity map for both has a commute label in the top left corner. I'll need to check via a different account, like my wife's, if they show up in that.

TBH the non-Zwifters seem more precious than the Zwifters. It's not our fault our training is indoors, it doesn't suddenly make it less valid, or make it less important just because it's not outdoors. Why can't you non-Zwifters just accept, it's what some people do

I can accept it, some of my best friends are Zwifters. Live and let live.

I'd still rather not see it on my Strava feed though.

Ditto for commutes and running.

Not sure why you'd want to see ANY of your "friends" excercise data.
You were either there in which case you wouldn't need to see it.
Or you weren't there and there's even less need to see it.

If an actual mate in the pub starts telling you about an activity they did and then went on to include stage names, times, HR data etc. You'd laugh at them and probably tell them to STFU. No?

If you flag a ride as a commute it doesn't show up in the activity feed of others. The data such as distance, ascent do show up in Strava challenges

^ It does in my feed

@whitestone - it really does!

Be good if it could capture conditions of the ride too, dark or light, wet or Dry... Give you a bit of incentive when the weather dictates you can’t really compete?

@fifeandy & imnotverygood - curious. Checked again and they appear in my wife's activity feed but way down the listing and with no obvious ordering when compared to activities by people we both follow.

One thing that hasn't happened is that there's a couple of followers who give kudos to every ride and that hasn't happened yet. Next commute I'll leave one ride open and mark the other as a commute and see what happens.

I don't mind the new feed. Can still get to the meaty bits and the training log link is handy.

As for Zwift, segments on Zwift are unaffected by wind so there is actually more useful comparison in seeing how fast somebody ascended the virtual Box Hill or the Volcano or did three laps around the CCW loop than how well they drafted a tractor down the B4030 😆
Also useful for seeing how fast a race was on a certain course.

To be honest, the only thing I look at on people's real feeds is average speed and weighted power if they have it. Or to see who's been trespassing in 'my' woods 😆

atlaz - Member 

I think he wants Celsius, miles, feet not Celsius, metres, Km.

Ah. Well. Can't have your gateau and mange it.

Yeah 'Statute UK' measurements like Garmin have a setting for. It's the assumption that anyone who uses Celsius must be fully metric that gets me.

Though it's my age I think. 70s kid and parents all imperial and schools are teaching metric, so I'm half and half. They'd talk F but I'm used to C (I still call it Centigrade though), but then road signs are miles and yards so I'm used to that. Mixed up with weights though. I understand stones for bathroom scales but not kg, yet buy stuff in shops weighed in g and kg. Bike weight I understand more in lbs, because many quote it in that.

Confused 😀

Anyway, as any fule kno, bikeriderists use metric.

Always an oddity that. As said our road signs aren't metric. Of groups I ride with it's a mix of who's got their Garmin set in KM or miles. Makes it confusing when talking about how far we've gone.

And height, I can never visualise metres. Might be a skiing thing though as I'm used to places that quote their mountain altitudes in feet (okay, US in particular), and 14,000ft sounds a lot more impressive 😀

As said our road signs aren't metric. Of groups I ride with it's a mix of who's got their Garmin set in KM or miles. Makes it confusing when talking about how far we've gone.

Like you a 70s child so was taught in metric. I grew up on a farm and farming's been metric since I can remember but we'd still talk about "the six acre field".

Km on and off road for me. Weights in Kg. Things like personal height etc. is a curious mix, I'll use metric for my height but imperial for things like chest and waist. Temperature is always Celsius/Centigrade, Fahrenheit is just too weird.

I'm sure my Garmin (510) allows me to set different fields using different systems so you can have Imperial distance along with metric height and similar.

I'm not a fan of the new style activity feed. Visually it's ok, will take a bit if getting used to though, as with most changes.
They need to add the option to revert to chronological order though, because it's just a mess as it is at the moment.
An option to not see peoples turbo/Zwift sessions would be handy too, although personally I treat zwift the same as any other ride with segments in it etc.

I can't see what the fuss is about. It looks a bit different, but my rides are all still in order. Maybe it's because I don't follow anybody, although I can't see why I'd care what order other people's rides were in.

This guy ^^

Be like him.

Maybe it's because I don't follow anybody, although I can't see why I'd care what order other people's rides were in.

Sharing rides on Strava is little different to sharing photos. Some folk do, some folk don't. For most that do it's a record of where they've recently been, not a random collection in no particular order.