[Closed] STOLEN - Edinburgh. YT Capra Pro, Mondraker Summum, Norco Shinobi, KHS Yuma

Shit news.
Pretty distinctive bikes though, so there's some chance...

Aw dude, sorry to hear that. Will keep eyes peeled in Dundee in case they come north.

Thats some haul of bikes. Hope you get them back or suitably replaced through insurance

Shared on our Borders FB page - hope you get them back.

Give Soul Cycles a call so they are aware:

http://www.soulcycles.co.uk/

Awful 🙁 🙁

I drive in Edinburgh every night I'll keep them peeled ...

Not another Edinburgh theft! You have my sympathy FWIW. What area?

I remember when my £800 Kona was stolen I felt devastated - this here is just shocking!!! 👿

Sorry to hear that, man...

That blows.
What part of Edinburgh?

Maybe put your mobile number in the thread so we can give you a call if we see someone on them?

Live in Edinburgh, so will keep the peepers open.

B*****s
Hope you get these back.
Keepin my eyes ears open in ayrshire

I feel your pain, same thing happened to me in Edinburgh a couple of months ago.
Will keep an eye out. Where are you?
Keep on the cops, it took them 3 days to get to me, give them a good breakdown of all the parts etc.

Good luck.

Sorry to hear that, has happened to me in the past too so I know how you feel.

I had an attempted break in a couple of weeks ago to my shed. They finally got in but never took anything due to a shed anchor and 16mm chains. In the Abbeyhill area BTW. Three "hoodies" were seen fleeing the scene.

Edit: the police have come out to fingerprint on all three occasions i've had break ins/attempted break ins. They seem to take more interest if the bikes are expensive.

That blows, I'm out Musselburgh way I'll keep an eye out.

Terrible news 🙁

Paul good call on the 16mm chain stopping them.

Thanks for the sympathy, sharing and look outs everyone. Much appreciated. It's pretty soul destroying as a lot of you know. The Mondraker and the Norco weren't insured as I was planning on selling them in a couple of weeks. Now someone toerag is instead.

I'm in the east of Edinburgh, Restalrig area. Don't really want to put my mobile number up here as it'll no doubt get scraped and added to some horrible marketing list but appreciate the suggestion. If anyone does have any info/sightings please PM me and I can provide a number from there.

B R - good shout on Soul Cycles, will give them a ring.

Am guessing they will have the brains to sell them somewhere further away though as it was definitely a targeted theft - they were chained up with heavy duty motorbike chains which have been cut through, so the thieves must have had some pretty decent equipment to get through them.

Good luck tracking the toerags down mate, had a similar lot nicked myself a few years ago so I've got an idea how it feels.

Hopefully they'll be daft enough to try to shift them on whole, as a couple of them should be pretty easy to spot.

bums
i'll keep my eyes peeled.

🙁

partickbateman were you using 16mm chains?

I've shared the post on a few facebook groups in and around Edinburgh.. Hopefully something will turn up..

sorry to hear man, that is just awful. Hope you manage to recover them.

Am way down South but will keep an eye out on the net etc

I'll keep an eye out down at my shop in Granton (Edinburgh Cycle Company)

We often get Junkie Friday Bikes (Trying to sell stolen bikes to finance a weekends fix)

I'll keep an eye out down my way too as I live near you.

I got mine back of Scumtree last year as it was pretty distinctive too

Post them on the FB page I set up

particularly as the police have told me they don't even visit the scene of garage break ins

in england+wales if there is an interconnecting door between garage and house then under home office accounting rules its classed as a dwelling burglary, which as a home office priority means attendance and usually a specialist team to investigate.

I realise youre in Scotland but worth doing some research and also asking to speak to a supervisor to stress the value of the theft -if a car to the value of your bikes had been taken they'd come out, and I know the contents of my garage are worth more than the contents of my house.

Gutted for you, Oxford probably too far away to be of any use, and above posted with best intent as an "English" copper.

Thanks again everyone.

Hopester - Cheers. I've posted to your page. Good idea to set it up. Hopefully they'll be stupid enough to take them into you.

Toons - was using 13mm Oxford ones, silver rated. 16mm too big to fit through the anchor.

What's really annoying me is that someone robbed the bank at the top of the road yesterday and made off with under £10k. Police everywhere, knocking on all the doors and interviewing all the residents.

Targeted bike theft of a similar value - on hold for 25 mins, still waiting on a call back with a crime number. And they won't come out to the house as the "garages are too dusty to get evidence from" despite the cut chain links still being here.

Appreciate a bank robbery is a serious crime and not expecting the same level of response but it shouldn't be so unbalanced either.

garages are too dusty to get evidence from" despite the cut chain links still being here.

🙄 FFS. They'd manage if it was a murder scene. Call back and ask for a supervisor (or even a police officer, you'll probably be speaking to a civilian call handler). Stress the value and potential evidence you've identified.

I recommend setting up saved searches on ebay and gumtree UK wide, worth a try as bikes like this won't be easy to shift

Really sorry to hear about this. I hope you get them back.

Register with 'findthatbike.com' which can (daily) email you new listings on eBay & Gumtree based on keywords you give it (eg 'Norco')

I had an extremely distinctive recumbent stolen while on holiday in Edinburgh this time last year. It's still not turned up. Someone suggested it would have been destroyed because it would be too difficult to sell. Either that, or the thieves will wait for a while before trying to move it on. Anyone know if there's much hope after a year (other than that Ti Jones which was recently recovered after a few years)?

It seems that bike theft is rampant in Edinburgh - obviously not just opportunistic thefts either.

Will keep an eye out in Edinburgh.

Might be worth spending the day loitering around the carparks of Inners/GT at the weekend in the near future, just incase someone on one of your prized possessions rides past.

Patrick,

Do you know how they got through the chains? bolt croppers or angle grinder type thing? Although we're only a few streets apart, the guys who broke into my shed didn't come prepared or only had minimal tools, sounds like a different group.

I know it's crap but realistically unless the criminal is a total moron, there'll be no physical evidence, prints etc, all it takes is gloves really. What I'd be annoyed at is chain manufacturers and safety groups selling you stuff that offers minimal protection, they probably broke the chains faster than you'd open them with a key 🙁

Will keep an eye out, some very distinctive and uncommon bikes there- good luck! Hope the insurance is ok

Terrible news, I hope they are recovered.

Paul: They'll be back with the right tools. Get a shed alarm, even the £20 (with a remote key fob) ones that give them 30 seconds to remove the battery before they go off work if you can make access to them hard.
There are a lot of things going for the wee shites these days: They don't care if they get caught and unless they are caught red handed they won't be prosecuted just for possession of a stolen bike. Whilst some PCs are pretty hot on bike theft, the force in general (in Edinburgh anyway) really aren't interested. Tools that will cut through any lock or chain are easily available. Any deterrent that might injure or even restraining the wee darlings of course would land you right in it.

I have had my garage robbed twice - it feels crap and you have my sympathy.

Nicest bike lives inside now.

Searching Gumtree eBay etc is a good start but so much gets shifted on Facebook groups it is worth sgning up to as many as possible. I found 1 bike this way and got two blokes prosecuted for handling stolen goods.

Set up searches for obscure components like those BOS forks etc.

Seeing a lot of bikes go with 13mm chains recently, think 16mm is the way forward, although how long to get through one of those?

One thing i've noticed with 99% of bike thefts, is they all go overnight, and no one has a wireless alarm which goes off in the house when shed/garage is breached. They can be had for £20-£50, and reckon could put a stop to all this overnight crime, where they have as much time in the world to break the locks.

My sympathies. A similar thing happened to me 2 months ago, although my total value was around £4k, not 10. Kent police were round within a couple of hours dusting for prints, so I think your local force are giving you the brush off.

2 months later, I still feel sick thinking about it. I've replaced one bike and haven't yet been brave enough to stick it back in the garage. I bought a Kryptonite chain thinking that would be strong enough, but from reading the above, I'm not so sure now.

I've had a multi-point locking door put on the the garage rear door (which was their point of access as the garage door was secure) and next step is to connect the garage alarm to the house alarm.

Wish you luck in finding your bikes.

that sucks.
am also in the east end.
will keep eyez peeled.

please PM me

Patrick - if anyone does want to contact you: you dont have any contact details in your profile.

Also if anyone had any info - the last place you'd want them sharing is on an open forum.

When my 2 were nicked from north Edinburgh the parts (reverb, brakes....) started appearing on ebay within hours. Apparently my frames were unlikely to ever be sold in the UK as they were the only really traceable part.

Anyway, eyes peeled here and I hope it works out ok.

Tomaso - facebook groups is a good shout. I've had a post on there shared quite a lot already, but makes sense to do as many as possible. What kind did you use? Just bike related ones or any others?

Paul - looks like it was a bolt cutter of some sort.

Chickenman - yep, that's the frustrating part. Would happily rig the garage door up to the mains but you'd end up in more trouble than the thieves.

CSW - thanks. Thought the forum had personal messaging built in but apparently not. Email in profile now. Added the part alerts to ebay and gumtree too.

Cruzcampo - a wireless alarm is something I've been kicking myself about. Definite purchase to be made now that's for sure. Didn't realise you could get them so cheaply. Urgh.

Thanks to everyone else in my Singletrack support group too. Good to know so many people are keeping an eye out.

This makes me feel sick, sorry you were targeted and good luck for tracing them

This seems to be occurring quite frequently in Edinburgh. I wonder if a request put to the police under freedom of information would be worth doing to see just how many thefts like this there have been in the past year or so.

Gutted for you mate.

Definitely an overnight job then? I thought most people got broken into during the day when they were at work?

gutted for you OP.
as said previously check the usual places on gumtree and ebay to see if they whole bikes or parts of them pop up on there.
some are very distinct bikes so should be relatively easy to spot if they've been listed....try pinkbike too
i'm on a few buy and sell mtb groups on FB so i'll post the bikes on there at lunchtime just in case the bikes have been moved south of the border

If anybody contacts the shop will see what we can do for you, other than that post pics to our fb page sign on to the stolen bike register edinburgh fb page then do the same there! We had managed to return a fair few bikes in the Edinburgh area but unfortunately it seems higher end bikes are being stolen to order and most of these disappear! Gav Soul Cycles.

Gutted for you...will keep an eye out down here in Yorkshire. Pretty distinctive bikes. Makes you think about your own security setup. Does any one have an alarm that sounds in the house if it is activated in a garage or shed. if so linky please. I could lean out of my window then and shoot the t*&ts with my paint ball gun.

Re the number of bikes stolen its frightening, we were given last year's figure and have been told its increasing constantly! There is a dedicated team at St Leonard's police station (SART) but speaking to them regularly they are massively under resourced for level of thefts they have to deal with!

I have no doubt the police are under resourced, I'm thinking what about getting an action group together representing the cycling community? Not vigilante action more of a pooling of information, e.g. security that has been breached, normal riding location/activity (to determine if being followed home is likely), if roof racks normally left on car, bikes fixed/worked on in a location visible from the street, etc.
Thing is, such a group could become a great source of info for the thieves and it all backfire, thoughts?

When my bike was stolen from Edinburgh I was told that the police had a dedicated bicycle theft team - if that's the correct way to describe it...

Perhaps they do this, but I wondered why they don't actively try and catch the thieves. For example, it turned out that my bike wasn't the only one which had been stolen from the same place. Could they not set up a 'sacrificial bike' with tracking gear so that they could monitor it and track the thieves when they made off with it?

Use of a bait bike might be entrapment, not sure though

I think some sort of collaborative action would be a great idea. One consistent thing in this thread that's really surprised me is the amount of Edinburgh residents who've had the exact same thing happen.

dmorts idea of an FOI request is a good way to start it. As for the specialist team, they may be under-resourced, but they may not be the most effective either. Not necessarily through motivation, just in terms of proactively trying to catch them. An FOI request on how many they have caught could give some insight to this too.

There has to be some pattern to how they are offloading the bikes which could be identified too. If you could just make it hard enough to shift them it might be enough of a deterrent for them to move on to something easier.

I'm very much up for some sort of honeypot thing. Might be entrapment if the cops do it but if you actively caught them red-handed surely they could do something?

My FOI request idea is would be something along the lines of "How many thefts have been recorded where multiple bikes have been stolen, with a total value over £2K, and significant security, such as chains and locks, has been breached"

There has to be some pattern to how they are offloading the bikes which could be identified too. If you could just make it hard enough to shift them it might be enough of a deterrent for them to move on to something easier

Sorry, but a job like this, it's not a couple of scrotes chancing their arm. With a theft like this - proper equipment to get through serious locks/chains, enough people to shift bikes out of garage, van nearby to chuck them into - I'm afraid everyone keeping their peelers open will effectively be wasting their time. This is all properly organised stuff unfortunately. Usual modus operandi is to fill up a truck and shift them all to another location (maybe London, possibly even abroad) in return for a truck load of the same value for the Edinburgh mob. The bikes will then be broken down and sold for parts through a network of affiliates, as they're way harder to identify and worth much more that way anyway.

I'm ashamed to say that many moons ago in my yoot (1980s) I knew a guy who was involved in this kind of activity when 531 racers were the target of choice. They'd fill a truck up every couple of weeks.
Of course the profit potential nowadays, with the value of MTB parts, is enormous.

I've got mine in my shed with two of the oldest, heaviest, steel bikes I could find D-Locked to them with three separate D-Locks. Deliberately done to make the locks as inaccessible as possible from a cutting point of view. If they don't cut them they'll need to a) be weightlifters and b) make a new door for the shed to get them out. Whilst they're doing that, my large canine will be going mental at the kitchen window and I'll be downstairs armed with a powerful maglight (blinded thieves are much easier to deal with), a dog and a ton of righteous anger!

Really sorry to hear about your loss. In all seriousness though, the best protection you can have is a dog. Even organised thieves just want a nice, quiet, easy life. The last thing they want is to get attacked by an angry homeowner with a dog, or get nicked.

Just out of interest, found the thread below from a load of motorbike owners, regarding security. Worth reading for the gifs about 2/3 of the way down the first page!

http://www.ktmforum.co.uk/general-discussion/190407-best-security-chain.html

Funkrodent, I did wonder this. A network of further flung affiliates makes sense too. In that case the best bet is to catch them in the act, so the honeypot style thing would be best.

Shame you can't get some sort of taser device that would stun them long enough until the police arrived. Would love a dog with a young business and a 1 yr old I don't have the free time required to look after one properly.

As for the gifs was expecting some thieves-get-their-comeuppance type things. But the disappointment wore off fairly quickly 🙂

If these bikes are indeed being stolen to order, it makes me sick to think fellow mountain bikers, who enjoy riding are happy to source their bikes this way.

Second hand bikes never go for much on ebay/gum tree, so its amazing there is such an active stolen bike riding posse out their wanting these bikes to enjoy.

OP i've posted the bikes on the buy sell groups on FB and they are now getting shared by other group users...hopefully it will make the bikes easier to spot and harder for the thieving scumbags to sell

I have said on here many times that there are a lot of very high end bikes being ridden around pilton and muirhouse by thieving scrotes. I shall keep an eye out around here and will message you if I see any of your bikes.

Unfortunately the law protects the thieves to some extent,the police can see a stolen bike advertised on say gumtree but if they contact seller to "view" the bike it seemingly would be viewed as entrapment and then inadmissible!
The van thing seems to be the way at the moment,about a year ago a mate had three bikes stolen in the Dalkeith area one of which was recovered in a pile of not so desirable ones less than a 1/4 of a mile from Dalkeith police station, he was told by officers the following morning he was the 16th to report cycle thefts that day! 6 in his street alone!! Advice given was good locks,alarm and removing car bike racks as they see them and have a go! The Edinburgh SART team are unfortunately fighting a war which at the minute they can't win!

Just had a call form the police regarding my recent attempted theft. They're going to approach local businesses and see if any CCTV camera's picked them up. Supposedly my neighbour got pretty good descriptions. Fingers crossed!

Any update on this?

Shocker! Gutted for you. Have shared on fbook with my Borders / Edinburgh chums!

Sorry to hear about the theft 🙁

I saw some kid on an Orange 5 the other day down by the Water of Leith and it all looked a bit suspect. Sure enough on the stolen bike Facebook page someone had one missing so got in touch. Seems a huge problem in Edinburgh.

On another note saw some buzzfeed thing about Edinburgh being great to live in saying how you could ride your bike across the city in an hour and no one would nick your bike. Dream on!!!