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After reading the 29er FS weight thread, thought I would ask about steel ht's as that's what I ride at the moment.
There seems to be plenty of 120-140mm forked, wide bar/short stem, etc type bikes on here.
So what sort spec and weight is your ht?
Thanks guys.
Orange P7
Vanilla R, XT, hope proII on XM317, Hope X2 brakes, Orange finishing kit. 28lbs - but, in STW cliche, "rides lighter".
Hi
Niner SIR 853 29er hardtail
XT/XTR gears, Moots seatpost, Carbon Haven bar/Maverick SC32 forks/HopeStans Crest tubeless with Bonty tyres
Approx 28lbs
Love it!!!!
Cheers
Steve
On One 456 built like my heckler weighs about the same due to lower spec bits and tougher wheels
still rides fine
Weighed my BFe frame (17.5 inch) after getting it powder coated and it was 5 1/2 lbs. They cocked up and ended up with 2 layers of powder coat on it, but doubt that adds too much (nice extra protection though).
No idea on finished wieght, but with coil Pikes it's never going to be 26 pounds! Building up a 456 as a singlespeed this weekend and that will be a good deal lighter with air Manitous up front, etc.
My Stumpy EVO is 28 1/2 pounds. I would think the BFe is heavier, even without a dropper seatpost.
Cove Handjob, rigid but geared. 22/23lbs.
My Soul was about 26lbs, built for allround use. Maybe as much as 27lbs, depended on the tyres.
XS BFe. Almost dead on 29lb. Not light, but plenty tough enough for a heavy-handed rider.
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Marzocchi 44LR (150mm, 10mm QR axle)
Stan's Flow on Superstar Switch hubs
Continental Rubber Queen 2.2 UST front (running tubeless)
Continental X King 2.2 Protection rear (running tubeless)
Raceface Ride AM cranks on a Hope stainless BB
Blackspire 34T chainring & Raceface bash
Superstar Plasma chain device
Superstar Nano Tech pedals
SRAM X9 rear mech (short cage)
SRAM X9 twist shifter
Shimano XT brakes - 203mm F, 180mm R (still wearing BB7s in photo though)
Ragley Wiser 710mm bars on Ragley Stubbing 55mm stem
Ragley Cheeky saddle on Forca Vario dropper seatpost
slainte 😳 rob
Cotic Soul 17.5" mk2; Float 140RL, Flow/Pro2, 1x10 X9 with bash on Truvativ cranks, Race M4 Evo 183/160, 50mm Renthal stem, 711mm Haven Carbon bars, Gravity Dropper, Spoon, Rubber Queen 2.2 / X-King 2.4 BC tubeless, DMR Vaults. Just over 26lbs when clean (rarely). V awesome!!!
My R8, 25lbs
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30 lbs last time i measured it
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16" inbred with cheap build spec - mainly bits nicked from my old FSR. RF Deus xc stem & bars are probably lightest bits. Oh, and it has 08 Rebas on it.
Wheels are pretty heavy. Crankset is budget Shimano, seatpost was cheapest I could find on CRC. It weighs around 29/30 lbs. Pretty sure it's a fair bit heavier than my 2010 Stumpjumper FSR.
Large Cotic Solaris
Reba forks
Hope/Flow/Ardents
1x9 XT with MRP x1
Thomson stem and Easton EC70 bars
Thomson post and Aliante saddle
XT SPDs
26.5 pounds 🙂
My small Soul frame is 4.4lbs. Build been as low as 23.5 lbs but currently 25.4lbs - a nice lightish but toughish build
Hope Pro 2/Arch EX
20mm maxle lite Revs.
1X9 SLX (double and bash cranks)with bbg bash/jumpstop
XR4/Rocket Ron
711 Sunline Bar/Haven stem
Saint short cage mech
XT Shifter/Cassette
Deore 596 180/180 brakes
Spoon/Thomson
Nanotech pedals
Whyte 19 Steel 27.5lbs
Hope wheels mavic xm317 rims
Conti X King 2.2 tubed
Flat pedals
FSA V Drive cranks
Thomson post
Crank Bros Iodine 3 bars
SLX shifters/rear/front mech/cassette 3x10 speed
Avid Elixir 5 brakes 160/185
Fox ALPS 120 fork
If you care about weight why on earth would you choose a material with as poor weight to stiffness as steel for the heaviest component? 😕
Coz ali is crap for a hardtail?
My Handjob is about 27lbs. Same weight as my Yeti 575!
Ns surge, singlespeed, mavic 719/721 combo, coil pikes. 27lbs.
Rock Lobster 853:
719's, Hope hubs. Big tyres.
Thomson post.
Spoon.
Carbon bars.
SLX brakes.
27 speed XT, SLX, Deore d/c.
Wellgo MG1'S.
Rebas.
27 and a half pounds.
Partner has the alloy one, similar spec but full XT, SID's, 717's & Hope brakes - a good couple of pounds lighter, much livelier ride.
Cotic Soul with good and strong kit, but not weight weenie in any way.
26 lbs.
1 ounce under 32lb.
18" 456ebb prototype
Pace RC41 Fighter (the really light 6" jobbie).
XM819s laced CK on the front, Alfine on the rear.
2.4 Fat albert UST front and back.
EA50 finishing kit
BB7 8" on both ends.
HT1 LX crank with XT bb.
Rides like it'll flatten anything.
17" dialled PA (853)
Bare frame weighed 4.9lb
Built up:
140revs (qr) with poploc
FSA orbit XLII headset
Superstar xc430 rims on switch hubs
Advantage 2.25 front 2.1 rear with tubes
1x9 Deore LX cranks hope ceramic BB
SRAM x9 mech x7 shifter
11-34 cassette can't remember if slx, xt or SRAM
SRAM chain
SLX brakes avid rotors 180f 160r
Superstar xcr bb mounted guide
Race face bar stem and post
Chromag seat qr
Fizik nisene saddle
Odi ruffian grips
Deore trail spds
26.7lb all up
Previously had a 18" 456 summer season
Frame weighed 5.7lb
With uturn air pikes, full slx 2x9, mechanical dropper post hope pro 2s on flows 2.35 high rollers tubeless and DX spds weighed about 32lb
As you would expect the PA climbs much better but feels less planted on the downs.
18" 456
coil pikes
1x9 XT/ SLX / Deore mix
hope on 719
sub 30 lbs with the right tyres
my dialled PA is really close to docrobsters in spec, so hope his weight is accurate.
ime a hardtail built for use, weighs a shade under 30lbs, just like a full susser built for fun weighs a shade over 30lbs.
incidently, all my mtb and car tyres are inflated to 30psi
law of fives, innit.
Weighed with hand held luggage scales soobalias, so who knows!
The frame weight tallied with what other people had weighed theirs at so no reason to doubt it really. 🙂
is yours 853 though or scaffold?
Medium Solaris
100mm Reba's
Full XT (weighed including SPD pedals)
Thomson post/stem
Salsa Whammy Alu bars (proper full 780mm)
Peaty lock on's
Gobi pearch
Hope/crest wheels set up tubeless with sealant
Maxis Ikon tyres
25.5lbs and bloody fast!
Didn't build it to be light but god I'm happy!
Probably put some proper rubber on soon that will take it up a bit.
Evil Sovereign (heavy)
Vanilla 140s
Pro 2/ Flow with High Rollers or similar
XT/ SLX drivetrain with full chain device
Big bars, short stem
Cheap crap pedals
29.something lbs.
Fairly hefty, but I wouldn't really want a much lighter build. The frame is a bit of a lump (6lbs+) but it doesn't really bother me.
Rickos - Member
Weighed my BFe frame (17.5 inch) after getting it powder coated and it was 5 1/2 lbs. They cocked up and ended up with 2 layers of powder coat on it
Powder coating my large soul frame added 38 grams, so I wouldn't loose any sleep over an extra coat.
My old Surge was 34lb as pictured here. Such a great bike.
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Medium Sovereign
Hope Pro2 on 719s
Pike 454
SLX cranks, XT gears, Gamut p20 (1x10)
Gravity Dropper, Charge Spoon
Truvativ, Sunline, ESI cockpit
Formula K18, 180/160mm
28.6lbs
Rigid single speed. Dunno how much it weighs but probably less than all of those posted above which makes me dead happy so I'll be able to sleep soundly tonight.
Genesis Altitude 853. 28lbs with quite light tyres.
Reba SL
SLX/Arch wheels
SLX/XT drivechain
Stock finishing kit
Why steel? I like the look and the geometry is good on that frame. The weight is OK, but granted not the lightest for the money.
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Genesis Latitude 853
2013 Reba RL
Zee Rear Mech/Shifter
Truvativ Firexx Crank/Hope Ring/Hope Bash/Jumpstop/Bionicon C.Guide V2
Truvativ Cockpit/Superstar grips
Superstar Pedals
Superstar Hubs/Mavic XM719 rims
Nobby Nic DD 2.25's
Avid Elixir 5 Brakes
Weight: Exactly 27lb
Could probably lose another pound by swapping out the Truvativ Fittings/Crankset.
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Cotic Medium Solaris
100mm Rebas
Rohloff rear hub 16t on ZTR Crests
Stans front hub on ZTR Crests
2.1 Schwalbe Racing ralphs tubeless
Middleburn Uno 34t x-Type
Time Atac XS pedals
USE carbon seatpost with Brooks Ti B17 (not light!)
Hope X2 brakes with braided hoses
Thompson 90mm stem
USE 580mm Atom carbon bars
Ergon grips
With no mud guards...27.25lb on the scales.
ock Lobster 853:719's, Hope hubs. Big tyres.
Thomson post.
Spoon.
Carbon bars.
SLX brakes.
27 speed XT, SLX, Deore d/c.
Wellgo MG1'S.
Rebas.
27 and a half pounds.Partner has the alloy one, similar spec but full XT, SID's, 717's & Hope brakes - a good couple of pounds lighter, much livelier ride.
I've got a pretty heavy lobster 853, and rode a mate's alloy lobster, with much lighter gear on too. Got to say I still prefer the steel ride. Funny you use the word livelier, as alive is how many (inc. myself) describe how steel rides compared to ali. It has a zip and zest about it. Ali is dull. Esp. important as you settle into a bike and get used to it over time. Ali just starts to feel dead in comparison to well designed steel frame. Ali is more clinical, but also more wearing on long rides and lacks character and a fun feel that flows with you. If you care about weight / speed, just lose a couple of pounds form the belly and you'll be healthier too! Also speed differences tend to be noticed when jumping from one bike to another, but over time you don't notice them. But you will always know you are on a quality steel bike.
18" Stanton Slackline with gravity dropper
150mm Revs
Hope/Arch EX wheels, Hope X2 brakes
X9 2x10 speed
Carbon Havocs
Ti BelAir saddle
27.8lb
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I've got a pretty heavy lobster 853, and rode a mate's alloy lobster, with much lighter gear on too. Got to say I still prefer the steel ride. Funny you use the word livelier, as alive is how many (inc. myself) describe how steel rides compared to ali. It has a zip and zest about it. Ali is dull. Esp. important as you settle into a bike and get used to it over time. Ali just starts to feel dead in comparison to well designed steel frame. Ali is more clinical, but also more wearing on long rides and lacks character and a fun feel that flows with you. If you care about weight / speed, just lose a couple of pounds form the belly and you'll be healthier too! Also speed differences tend to be noticed when jumping from one bike to another, but over time you don't notice them. But you will always know you are on a quality steel bike.
Hello andy. 🙂
Look, I know what you mean - I've had loads of nice steel frames over the years and there is a certain 'zing' to them.
They do tend to feel comfier on big day rides, and the spring and give of a nice steel frame can make them feel more involving.
However, the right grips, bars, tyres and seatpost can make an alloy bike almost as comfy as a steel one - and that weight difference isn't to be sniffed at.
I've always been a bit of a steel snob, but after riding Ms Spanner's bike quite a lot over the last few years things aren't as clear cut as I once thought.
I reckon design is more important than material, tbh.
Go single speed and forget about all that weight bs.
Get some fast rolling high volume tyres and forget it even more.