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ive been looking at the surly cross check.

does anyone have any experience with this bike or can you recommend me something similar.

i ride a SS around town, so id like semi horizontal drop outs, but then when i take it touring i can chage a few parts over, put a rack on the back and im off

also i dont want disc brakes as i reckon fixing them whilst on the road would be harder than good old fashioned rim brakes

(also im only interested in steel frames!)

cheers


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 8:14 pm
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Ribbles new steel offering looks nice.


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 8:18 pm
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i havent ridden one, but ive seen several, and they all look stunning.
i know this doesnt help much . . .


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 8:18 pm
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Kaffenback? new model with swappable dropouts means you can go ss/hub gears/regular gears, and pretty cheap too.


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 8:18 pm
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I've just built an On-One inbred 29er as a tourer with rigid forks. It's perfect! It's stiff, strong, roomy, has rack mounts, has dark teal paint ideal for covert camping. Its disk only tho - BB7s are great option.

There's no point in buying a flash touring frame. By the time you load it up, you wont feel the difference.


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 8:30 pm
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Singular Peregrine, comes with an eccentric bottom bracket, so run it SS geared. Yes it takes discs but if you go for BB7s I don't think you'll go far wrong. Better than the cross check imho, and I've had both.


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 8:38 pm
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I've got a Surly Disc Trucker which has done sterling service so far, it's got BB7's. Don't know about SS adaptability, I need all the gears I can get!


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 8:44 pm
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The Cross Check isn't a tourer as such - it'll do it, but you may find chainstays a little short and it doesn't have lowrider mounts on the bosses.

IME the horizontal dropouts aren't much fun with QRs, I ended up slipping the axle a fair bit.

If you can live with those things, and the dreadful rear brake routing, it's a brilliant and versatile frameset.

You sure you don't want discs, though? I don't think I'd ever buy another bike without them. Especially one for this sort of application, unless you're really going into the back of beyond (and even then, to be honest, I probably still would).


 
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The Cross Check isn't a tourer as such - it'll do it, but you may find chainstays a little short and it doesn't have lowrider mounts on the bosses.

IME the horizontal dropouts aren't much fun with QRs, I ended up slipping the axle a fair bit.

If you can live with those things, and the dreadful rear brake routing, it's a brilliant and versatile frameset.

I agree the frame is not a tourer as such, tho not for the reason stated above as they have come with low rider bosses of the fork for a few years now. Mainly they are built a little softer than the sister Long Haul Trucker (Surlys tourer) so they can wobble a bit with 4 panniers, perfectly rideable tho. I have both, lovely bikes, and would be happy to tour on either.

Ive never had an issue with QR either, tho i do run shimano hubs and skewers which have nice grippy locknuts.

The rear brake routing is fine for me, not sure what could be wrong with it? The surly hanger is lovely and acts as an adjuster for brake wear.

And all threads are better with pics, so here is mine in SS tourer mode...

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/dickyelsdon/6269774512/ ]Crosscheck[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/dickyelsdon/ ]dickyelsdon[/url], on Flickr


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 8:56 pm
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Discs all the way.

Never had to "fix brakes" on any tour.


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 9:00 pm
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I've got a Crosscheck and use it mostly for commuting. Done a few longer rides on it and can say it is very comfortable which I think if you're touring is fundamental. Agree it probably cannot take the loads some other offerings do, but for me its a perfect middle ground between tourer, commuter and day tripper. (Not had any troubles with QR either...)


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 9:09 pm
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The Cross Check isn't a tourer as such - it'll do it, but you may find chainstays a little short and it doesn't have lowrider mounts on the bosses.

Cross Check has lowrider bosses from 2012, as far as I know.

And how about this?
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Spa Cycles Titanium Tourer.
If anyone should know how to make a tourer, it's them.
It's had some amazing reviews too.


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 9:10 pm
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Depends where you aim to end up at, but anywhere in Europe and no matter what the problem you are only 24-48hours wait for a parcel of parts to turn up at a given address so I wouldn't declare discs or 29ers etc out of the running.

personally a Surly Troll or Ogre, 29er MTB hardtail thing, but with an 11spd alfine + any formula or shimano deore style hydraulic disc + beefy wheels on quality (but loose ball) QR or nutted hubs and your cooking. They are pretty cheap too, about £350 generally for most Surly frames, they have all the braze ons you can shake a stick at, and the warranty back up in the UK is second to none as well.

Thorn obviously make nice stuff, but heard many say their recent offerings aren't quite as 'up there' as their 80s and 90s stuff, and the price, best part of a grand or more for an off the shelf steel frame is a bit £££ for most!


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 9:10 pm
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A [url= http://www.singularcycles.com/shop/index.php/frames/singular-osprey.html ]Singular Osprey[/url] could fit the bill and would be happy to do you a scorching deal on either a frameset, complete build or anything in between. This is a pic of a proto - production frames have rack mounts front and rear. Drop me a line for more information.

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Posted : 10/12/2012 9:33 pm
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How tall are you?
I have a nice Thorn Club Tour going cheap for you, sir.
It's about 5 years old but v little used, with 8 x 3 gearing, bar-end friction shifters, very olde skool & nice to ride.

I also have an On-One Blue Dragon Kaffenback frame & forks if you're interested.


 
Posted : 10/12/2012 9:46 pm
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moses

could you send me pics of both..and prices

revilo_home39@hotmail.com

im bout just over 6 ft


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 12:14 am

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