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[Closed] Steel Cindercone (original) - worth getting?

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Not sure of the year, but a mate is thinking of selling on his Cindecone, it's steel, and a murky greenish biege, nothing of a colour model. It's never been off road, and until recently unused - it's not mint as his son used it for six months to cycle to the station and back and neglected it during that period.

I'm tempted to make him an offer - but not sure if I'll just be adding another pile of tat to my shed! 😉

So, are they any good, worth getting - shame it's not disk.

Any idea of apprximate value?

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Posted : 24/11/2009 6:50 pm
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Sounds like a 1996 "Ganges green" model. would have had Curve cantilever brakes, maybe Curve cranks too, silver/grey project 2 forks, 8 speed with Gripshift & XT rear mech, Mavic 221(?) rims, Impact headset and Velocity stem. Retailed at around £695. Value now would vary emormously, but kona hold their value well and even a completely fubarred bike would be worth £100ish for frame and fork alone. Check Konaretro or Retrobike for more info.


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 7:26 pm
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A bit more info - it's 96/97 and had the P2 forks swapped out for 'Ballistic' from almost new according to the owner. Otherwise sounds as you describe.


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 8:01 pm
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If it fits you well will be a nice bike.
A ride a steel marin of a similar age and really like it.
Nice steel and steep angles for sharp handling.
If you get it put rigids back on it.
Cheers
J.


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 8:05 pm
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i love mine but its been stripped to almost nothing, made singlespeed and is my town bike.


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 8:13 pm
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I'll definately get some P2 forks for it, if I get it.


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 8:43 pm
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Yup p2s for 30 quid tops from retrobike or eBay and away you go. I singlespeeded my 94 and loved it.


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 10:56 pm
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Old Konas Rawk, nothing like them for snappy handling and singletrack thrills IMO:

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Posted : 24/11/2009 11:03 pm
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new p2s have longer a to c or something, the 97/98 will be set for 80mm forks

ive got a 97 lava dome that i commute on 10miles every day its fast light, comfortable and loves steps and high kerbs 😉

have also run it with 100mm bombers on the marin rough ride and it handled that pretty well

it just looks best with the old school p2s

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Posted : 24/11/2009 11:10 pm
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new p2s have longer a to c or something,

Aye, for best handling you need 80mm forks, or 420mm axle to crown rigid forks. I ran mine with 100mm forks for a while trying to make it into the do it all trail bike it will never be, mucked the handling up too much for my liking. These days I know that rigid or v short travel suits it best.


 
Posted : 24/11/2009 11:13 pm
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How do I identify the different types of P2 forks then?


 
Posted : 25/11/2009 10:15 am
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If its new and the a-t-c is unstated, assume 440mm. Hunting down short s/h forks can take a while, but worth it IMO. Took me a year to find some 420mm a-t-c RC31s.


 
Posted : 25/11/2009 1:38 pm
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I have a set of VGC 1996 Project 2 triple butted forks for an 18" Kona available with 143mm threaded steerer.

If you get the Kona and want to keep it retro, I also have the following brand NOS Kona parts available.

Kona Control Centre headsets 1 1/8"
Kona Curve brake sets
Kona dog collars (cable guides)
Replica 1996 Kona decal sets including the Cinder Cone
Original 1996 Kona brochure with the Cinder Cone in - not for sale but can scan you a copy
MBR review of the 1996 Cinder Cone again not for sale but can scan you a copy

E-mail robin.stones@tesco.net if interested in anything


 
Posted : 25/11/2009 2:51 pm
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The '97/98 is ahead, not threaded though, isn't it?


 
Posted : 25/11/2009 2:58 pm
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This is def a 96, pretty sure threaded. Pebble, I'll know in a week or so if I'm getting the Kona, maybe sooner, if you're in no rush to move the stuff on. The forks sound spot on, so a provisional yes on that - I'll drop you a mail too.

Cheers

Pete


 
Posted : 25/11/2009 4:11 pm
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Those original grey triple butted numbers are they best they ever made too. WAY better than the plainguage heaps they make now.


 
Posted : 25/11/2009 4:14 pm
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Posted : 12/12/2009 4:59 pm
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go on, give us a full pic.... 🙂


 
Posted : 12/12/2009 5:55 pm
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There's some shonky additions which I need to remove first - will do in time! 🙂


 
Posted : 12/12/2009 7:52 pm
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oooooh! Looks nice.

I once gave away a looovely retro kona, can't for the life of me even think which model...


 
Posted : 12/12/2009 7:53 pm
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That's a 94 or 95 (95 if I had to put money on it). Looks nice. Not as nice as my 95 Kilauea though 🙂
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(repainted obviously. Was pearlescent White originally)


 
Posted : 12/12/2009 7:58 pm
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'96

You've lost your deposit! 😉


 
Posted : 12/12/2009 8:52 pm
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I would have put money on it being a 95 too as I have owned my 95 'cone since new and it is the same colour/graphics. Whatever year it is, it is a lovely bike to ride and I will never get rid of her!


 
Posted : 12/12/2009 9:27 pm
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Yep, steel blue one was 95 ([url] http://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=64766 [/url] and gange green was '96 ([url] http://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=51973 [/url]. Kona brought out an additional colour option for late 96' - cherry red - I had one - lovely 😛


 
Posted : 12/12/2009 9:36 pm
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looking at the link, it must be a '95 then! Exactly that bike - less the proper forks!!


 
Posted : 13/12/2009 2:39 am
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Thanks for the catalogue links - found out the one I gave away was a '96 Hahanna. Not worth a whole lotta money, but fun! Hope the new owner is enjoying it!


 
Posted : 13/12/2009 5:39 am
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i had a '96 cinderdcone Pete, best handling bike i've ridden; buy it!


 
Posted : 13/12/2009 7:40 am
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My Dad's got a 1991 (I think) Kona sat in his garage - completely stock, Suntour groupo etc. Few scratches but I don't think it's done more than a couple of hundred miles. Not sure whether it's a Lavadome or Cindercone - might see if I can get him to bring it up when we see the parent over xmas...


 
Posted : 13/12/2009 8:06 am
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I've got it Jim!

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Posted : 13/12/2009 9:29 am
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A mate brings this round for some spannering every now and then.

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I don't really get the excitement about these old bikes, maybe as i was't riding in that era.

How old is this one, cheers.


 
Posted : 13/12/2009 9:50 am
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Retro rides..... go for it mate!!


 
Posted : 13/12/2009 10:09 am
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The bike I wanted (and still do) above all others was an early 90s Cinder Cone with splatter paint job. So much! But that Cinder Cone looks great Woodsman.


 
Posted : 13/12/2009 10:43 am
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That is a 95.Looks ace, Woodsman; mind me asking what you paid for it?
Now , you lot, stop posting pics of your lovely Konas....you're making me jealous! 😕
SLW....that Explosif looks like a 1990 to me. With the rare Track 2 forks.


 
Posted : 13/12/2009 11:33 am
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Cheers Reluctant.


 
Posted : 13/12/2009 11:45 am
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1990 explosif. i had that bike. sold it on....however the other day i was driving locally and saw and old guy riding it! def mine as it had a shit silver flexstem! hoping to spot him again and make him an offer, 18" frame and was a revelation.


 
Posted : 13/12/2009 12:25 pm
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buy it buy it!!


 
Posted : 13/12/2009 12:27 pm
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I still have my 98 Kula in orange. Love it and I like to think that 98 is retro enough to join in!

Paint's really tatty now though, thinking of having it resprayed, but where would you source the decals from?


 
Posted : 13/12/2009 12:31 pm
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Repro decals from the man called gil-m on the Retrobike website - it's a mine of useful info over there!


 
Posted : 14/12/2009 7:37 am
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pebble - have emailed you a couple of times, no reply?


 
Posted : 14/12/2009 11:25 am

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