Like a On One bootzipper.
Anything else out there (frame and forks only or full bike)?
I want to run a flat bar on a rigid 29er, that will take a rack. Mainly for road miles but I'd prefer the geo of a 29er over a gravel-type geo.
tour-tour - like quad panniers with a weeks camping set up?
or recreational travel with a little rack?
If the former, determining suitable forks are probably your first port of call.
Whats your budget and comfy camping or credit card and hotels?
My answer is a Shand bahookie rohloff with a trailer.
Nordest do one, F&F - https://nordestcycles.com/en/product/sardinha-2-kit
Brother do the Big Bro - https://www.brothercycles.com/shop/frames/big-bro/
The Pipedream Alice can be a flat bar, or the Sirius.
Cotic Solaris?
Any number of Surly frames that might work too
In the best STW tradition, Salsa El Mar is a good option if you can find one.
Sonder frontier, or flat bar camino?
Edit: ooops- not steel!
Have you discounted the Bootzipper or just looking for alternatives?
For the money the BZ looks very good.
My other half has a Surly Bridge Club which is great but 650b. You'd want a Surly Ogre if 700c Gravel Tyres in the Bridge Club weren't enough.
Stooge?
Unit X has caught my eye. Human build of that matters to you
Came on here to say Unit X as well. Like a flat bar Sutra. So fantastic.
Genesis Longitude. I'd quite happily do a road tour on mine.
i have toured on the following 29'' steel bikes.
surly ogre. surly ecr. surly karate monkey. on one inbred.
the surly ogre was the best.
I’ve been multi-day touring on a Longtitude (Mk1, 29er, 2.2”tyres)
A Blackburn Outpost framebag big fits quite well. Looking for a rando rack and a decent bar-bag. It also handles gigantic @ heavily-loaded rear-panniers and the long chain-stays make them a doddle to carry. Plenty of braze-ons for bottle cages, and for fork-luggage options. Frame has all required for racks and guards.
I really enjoy it as all sorts of bike in one, yet for me it excels at load-lugging, long-distance minor-lane/gravel-slogging and all-day comfort on any mix of terrain. Dropouts are versatile (horizontal track-ends w/derailleur-hanger) so anything from SS to Rohloff.
I get by well with Deore 2x10
Where are you off to ?.
with a trailer.
+1 to trailers. With conditions. I’ve owned two-wheeled trailers which tracked horribly, felt pull-y, too wide, with annoying hitches, etc, and they soon sent me packing (🥁) back to racks, panniers and bikepacking bags.
Since bought and tried a B.O.B Yak type (single-wheel) job and holyyymoly - the difference is night and day. Now I’m saying goodbye to panniers. Only prob is the trailer I have only fits my road tourer (700c), which is great for urban utility and road-touring, but I do need to upgrade at some point to a 29er trailer of the same type. I can see it’d be so very good on gravel, possibly singletrack also. Which opens up so much more possibility. Packing/unpacking is a cinch too.
Hardly notice it’s there and the bike still handles perfectly, unlike with panniers, bags, packs etc. Can’t fault it (except for making me wish to pack more stuff 🧐 )
Genesis longitude.
I rode from Southampton to Glasgow last summer and it was faultless.
It's my off road winter hack here in the south downs.
I have a rack but not used it, preferring saddle/frame/bar bags.
Change of tyres and it'll suit any touring/bikepacking trip.
cheers all, that's great.
Planning to cycle to Prague* this summer, so mainly road, but I prefer a flat bar setup to anything curly. Probably with panniers - not sure yet as to whether I'll be tenting it or supported by a van, as I'm still in the planning stage. If I don't take a tent then obviously I'll go as light as I can, rather than fully-loaded.
The Genesis looks good.
The On One BZ is the obvious choice but they're out of stock in mediums, so I'm looking wider.
*Czech covid issues notwithstanding
Im Curious, i currently have a hybrid/gravel bike thing i am selling, and thinking about a rigid beast..
not so much for touring, but commuting, or running blue trail fitness laps, think a steel touring style bike would be suitable?
This thread is not helping my bootzipper itch...
I've got a perfectly fine 26" inbred for parental and tamer mtb rides but really like the idea of a rigid 29"
does it make it worse if i tell you there are 2 mediums on ebay with chainstay chips, apart from that brand new?
The On One BZ is the obvious choice but they’re out of stock in mediums, so I’m looking wider.
They have chipped one on fleabay
Brilliant. Well spotted. I had an ebay search setup so they must have popped in very recently.
BZ frame and forks bought!
The build has begun...