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No idea how to link photos from insta, but seems eagle etap protos have shown up, look pretty legit this time
no pics of the front mech yet?
oooohh
I’m a huge etap fan on road bikes but on the mtb it will come down to ergonomics of the shifter.
That and a x0 level rear mech as I still can’t get my head round a £500 Rear mtb mech
Is the ebike version an eeTap?
I still can’t get my head round a £500 Rear mtb mech
That's just the early adopter after market price tag though innit, halve that within 18 months or so and halve it again within another 18 months, the point being not only to tempt us ludites away from bowden cables but also the Di2 users away from any type of gear cables at all.
Plus you've got to remember the OEMs; bolt on a mech and a shifter and pair them, that's it no routing (internal or external) to worry about you eliminate a fair chunk of the faff in assembling an MTB, which you can then charge more for because it has new posher bits fitted. Bike assemblers will be keen...
I have been putting off changing my mechanical XTR for Di2 in the hope that this may happen. I love Di2 on my road bike but my xc bike would need a bit of cable port drilling etc to fit which has put me off.
I also like the potential to swap between a couple of bikes with a hex key & a chain link splitter. Divide your £500 rear mech between 2 bikes etc....
Those that use Di2.....does it eliminate all faff with the rear mech through winter slop? I am assuming you set the limit screws and it works out the rest. My main issue is leaving the house with gears that work perfectly fine only to get halfway round a ride and find something is out or affected by the mud.
My main issue is leaving the house with gears that work perfectly fine only to get halfway round a ride and find something is out or affected by the mud.
Don't have this problem with M8000 analogue gears, and I ride in mud a lot. From what I have heard from people who have or had Di2 it is rather good and the mud doesn't affect it at all.
Personally, SRAM drivetrains don't tickle my fancy so analogue or digital Eagle isn't on my list of things to buy, and it would probably sway a decision against a bike if it came with it. It's literally the only reason I haven't bought an HB.160 yet.
CXers don’t seem to have issues, heard they get a bit muddy occasionally...
For me its it’s all down to the shifter. That’s the reason I don’t have Di2 on my MTB, just feels rubbish to operate so if they can nail that I’ll be all over it.
true in fact etap won this years worlds in pretty grim conditions
I seem to remember someone on here reckoning they broke a rear mech about once a month - that's going to be really expensive with this!
When I was getting the parts ready to build up my Spearfish and looked at Di2 as an option but for a 1x setup the few benefits didn't justify the extra cost to me. If you run a 2x setup then it's probably a closer call.
That’s just the early adopter after market price tag though innit, halve that within 18 months or so and halve it again within another 18 months,
there has been no reduction in the cost of eTap since it was released
It will be interesting to see if the 12 speed MTB eTap will be compatible with eTap road shifters? There's no cable pull ratios to worry about so I don't see any reason why they couldn't work together.
I'm not interested in a 12 speed cassette with a 50t on it but the idea of the 10/42 cassette like the current 11 speed but with closer ratios could be appealing to those who don't want road 1x set-ups due to the gaps between gears.
Fair enough re mud and cx. Might investigate Di2 or Etap rather than going the gearbox route.
the idea of the 10/42 cassette like the current 11 speed but with closer ratios could be appealing to those who don’t want road 1x set-ups due to the gaps between gears.
It's coming. Sram stealthy launched an XDR road freehub body last year, I imagine for just such a thing or very similar. Would not be surprised if Sram are 1x only on new road & MTB drivetrains in the next 2/3 years.
One of the joys of Di2 is the lack of adjusting needed.
Fitted my Ultegra about 2 years ago & after 1st set up I’ve never touched it other than cleaning & charging the battery. It just works & it’s lovely & quiet too.
"there has been no reduction in the cost of eTap since it was released"
there won't be (other than mail order OEM/grey market stuff) because it is still only on the top end groupset. Dura Ace DI2 hasn't got any cheaper in the time it's been around, but Shimano cascaded Di2 down a group, so I assume the expectation is that eTap will eventually trickle down to a more affordable groupset.
I've seen ripped-off Ultegra Di2 rear mechs in local CX races which is spendy enough, you'll need deep pockets to want to risk running eTap in CX as a privateer.
With the Shimano di2 you don’t have to use the fugly mtb shifter , other di2 buttons will work or some flash bars with a twist thing from Switzerland I think
the road etap will work with just the blip buttons, so I suspect the mtb version will too.
the road etap will work with just the blip buttons, so I suspect the mtb version will too.
Will it? I thought that the blip buttons had to be connected to the main shifters?
I know the blip box will work independently but didn't realise that the others would.
Looks like the eTap shifter is more of a traditional pod design than many thought!
The patent drawings show 3 different shifters, the trigger, a smaller collar one, similar looking to the shimano ones, and a smaller still one that looks like it’s integrated into the grip, with the battery in the outside collar and the buttons on the inside one
Looks odd without a cable there! I guess for Nino if he hasn't had much time on a push button variant then using the trigger style makes sense in a race environment.
Will it? I thought that the blip buttons had to be connected to the main shifters?
yes. That's how the TT bikes work.
Thread revival...
Some more very close up pics of a production ready shifter courtesy of GMBN:
