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Bank holiday shed tinkering and experimenting
I give you the spider eyes helmet light throws the furthest down trail I have ever seen .

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Its rough and chewed from a lump of alumimium with 2 glass aspherical lenses on board
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if used on full then around 2700 lumens leds on board are 2 XMLS and 2 XPGs

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Now this is not for the weak of neck as weighs quite a bit
it does mean that when the night riding season comes back that I will be able to annoy my mates from even further back .

beam shot on full but I need to find a longer bit of trail to do it justice and this one is nearly 200 metres long
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Posted : 02/05/2011 5:06 pm
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At some point the "solar wind" will drive you backwards


 
Posted : 02/05/2011 5:07 pm
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Excellent, keep up the good work Troutie.


 
Posted : 02/05/2011 5:14 pm
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ooh i'd like one of those (unfortunately do not have any cash/my neck muscles aren't that great) do you plan on putting them into production trout?


 
Posted : 02/05/2011 5:16 pm
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TJ as I am in the portly class if I point it backward I get extra thrust from the photon drive .

racefaceec90 this was just a messing about light but I may have tripped over a nice format using 1 of the lenses and a floody one so who knows what will hatch out .

Building a dive light for a mate which was what the aspheric lenses were for as he wants a narrow beam with no side spill so this light was just messing about to see what was possible .


 
Posted : 02/05/2011 5:28 pm
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ah! i do vow on saving up for some of your lights sometime,if you still will be making them? (at present have a hope vision 2 led with the double battery).is a good light,but must admit to wanting (MORE POWER! 😯 😀 i reckon around christmas time i could buy some (am saving for a guitar/amp at present)


 
Posted : 02/05/2011 5:39 pm
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does your helmet have a heat shield built in........


 
Posted : 02/05/2011 7:04 pm
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does your helmet have a heat shield built in

nope doesnt need one as only the registered blind need full power or a 50 mph downhill
low and medium are excellent High is for when you want to read that road sign 500 metres down the road

though Hi does make a good hand warmer too


 
Posted : 02/05/2011 7:17 pm
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Hmm, what would happen if you made a really narrow beam (say 1cm or less) and aimed that a shed or something similar belonging to someone you don't really like?


 
Posted : 02/05/2011 7:23 pm
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I would like to see a head tube light designed to clamp around the tube. Two lights slightly angled to cover left and right of the tral and one centred on it.

I think it would work nicely.


 
Posted : 02/05/2011 7:59 pm
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Great stuff.

Bike industry needs people like you IMO


 
Posted : 02/05/2011 8:09 pm
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Troutie - is there any mileage in a telescoping flood to throw mechanism like[url= http://www.dealextreme.com/p/c30-flood-to-throw-zooming-glass-optics-cree-p4-wc-100-lumen-led-flashlight-with-strap-3-aaa-18697 ]"low power deal extreme flood throw torch"[/url] ?

Or is it easier to just switch power / leds?


 
Posted : 02/05/2011 8:13 pm
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Quirrel. the downside to mounting the light on the headtube is the dazzle from the cables flapping about in the beam

Stuey I have one of those torches getting reliable sealing for all weather use would be the main bug


 
Posted : 03/05/2011 5:26 am
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You are totally irresponsible, sir! All you will achieve is bankrupting me even more, damn you and your genius!!!
Now, an interest-free option - where do I sign?


 
Posted : 03/05/2011 5:33 am
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Looks good.

It would be cool to seperately connect the 2 smaller LEDs from the main light source to make a lower output level light for map reading etc without blind mates/ melting when stood still. Are they machined to angle light differently to the top two?

Boring technical questions - What model are those LEDs (and cheekily where do you source them - I'm presuming far east not Rapid/RS) and do you use a bought in PWM generator or make your own/ have your own made for you?


 
Posted : 03/05/2011 6:23 am
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yes I did think about separating the leds for your very reason and also then the spider eyes beam would be a stealth beam with no spill sideways

that would require two drivers and a larger housing 2 switches also

Main leds are Cree XML T6 and the small ones are XPG R2
all from www.cutter.com.au

I wish I had the ability to make my own drivers but no they come from www.taskled.com the driver in this light is the H6Flex
not PWM constant current drivers

the xpgs have wide angled lenses so as to fill the near ground


 
Posted : 03/05/2011 6:37 am
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Nice style, overkill never looked so good!


 
Posted : 03/05/2011 7:30 am
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Thanks for the info - useful potential suppliers. I currently have an A level student's own designed PWM driver circuitboard for a set of blended RGB backlights and main higher powered LED light for a desk lamp in front of me that is not playing nicely that I've promised to give a 2nd set of eyes a look over. As you can see I'm experiencing work avoidance issues!


 
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nope doesnt need one as only the registered blind need full power or a 50 mph downhill
low and medium are excellent High is for when you want to read that road sign[s] 500 metres down the road[/s] on the moon


 
Posted : 03/05/2011 7:56 am
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Been out in the dark with the pooch and got some long distance beam shots to show
low I am afraid didnt make it to the barn at 160 metres so only got medium and high

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went out to 200 metres and the camers didnt get a good pic on low or medium so only hi

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managed to get another 100 metres and still get a view of the barn on hi so this is at 300 metres

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Pretty darn impressive and my new favourite light 😀


 
Posted : 03/05/2011 10:45 pm
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You really are afraid of the dark 🙂


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 4:22 am
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Not bad. I like the flood and spot idea. But both on at the same time.

Can I buy some of these if you can bar mount them?


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 4:45 am
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You really are afraid of the dark

Not any more RD but still dont want to get too close to the haunted barn

@ Molegrips am working on a less mental ( only 1800 lumens ) and lighter weight version which may become available in small numbers later on .

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Posted : 04/05/2011 6:36 am
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The picture of the internals looks like a robotic skull!

Have you ever thought about contacting Hope or someone like that? The machining looks very professional, what batteries do you use? I'm puzzled that more lighting systems don't use the 3.7v Li batteries, I reckon it's inevitable.


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 6:37 am
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Posted : 10/05/2011 8:25 pm
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I want one!


 
Posted : 10/05/2011 8:44 pm
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epic machining there, some very nice work.


 
Posted : 10/05/2011 9:01 pm
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epic machining there, some very nice work.

Thanks Giantalkali
about 25 hours of painstaking manual milling to get this proto this far .
though well pleased with the result .

Probably take one of the new fangled cnc bods about 20 mins


 
Posted : 10/05/2011 9:22 pm
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judging by the date stamp on your photos, you've burnt a hole in the time-space continuum and accidentally fallen through it.


 
Posted : 10/05/2011 9:25 pm
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Awesome in every sense. WANT! My Hope twin LED's have just given up the ghost too...


 
Posted : 10/05/2011 9:28 pm
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Could you convert this into a death ray?


 
Posted : 10/05/2011 9:29 pm
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OMG, thats mental. It looks like the night sun on the copper chopper shining in that field.

Did it scorch the grass?? Not been round Swinley have you???


 
Posted : 10/05/2011 9:30 pm
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loving the look of the light & the beam, how about some comparison shots with the Liberator as a bench mark?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 6:30 am
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Is it just me or...

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The Trout Light

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Splinter Cell


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 6:41 am
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More stuff I want. My Hope Vision 4's are feeling very puny and inadequate now 🙁


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:24 am
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😯

awesome work as ever Mr Trout!


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 7:51 am
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Trout - I did sends yo an email about possible motorbike lights - there is a market for this I am sure having discussed it with a few folk

email me (in profile) if you want to carry this further


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:17 am
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TJ I was thinking exactly the same thing. my motorbike lights are shoddy and I'd love an upgrade to something like this.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 8:56 am
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There is an Indian seller on ebay DIY24x7 or something that does bicycle and motorcycle LED lamps 1800 lumens but they do look a bit cheap, but then they are cheap...


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 9:23 am
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my motorbike lights are shoddy and I'd love an upgrade to something like this.

wouldn't use on motor vehicles require some sort of certification or CE testing ?


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 10:14 am
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wouldn't use on motor vehicles require some sort of certification or CE testing ?

Interesting...

(v) Headlamps - the regulations set minimum wattage requirements for dipped and main beam headlamps according to the cubic capacity of motorcycles. Headlamps on motorcycles are not required to have any approval markings, and
(vi) As a general condition the regulations require riders to keep obligatory lamps and reflectors clean and in good working order.

From


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 12:03 pm
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I take that as a no then.


 
Posted : 11/05/2011 4:29 pm
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That looks like a tidy piece of manual machining there Trout.

Good work.
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Posted : 11/05/2011 4:53 pm
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RC200f8 loving the look of the light & the beam, how about some comparison shots with the Liberator as a bench mark?

OK here are some shots as a comparison .
all on high beam

LIBERATOR (1700 lumens measured )
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DX Bastid P7 ( 550 lumens measured )
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Triple XML normal optics ( on paper lumens 2700 )
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Little helmet light 2 XML ( on paper lumens 1800 )
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Spider eyes monster light . ( on paper lumens 2700 )

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Posted : 12/05/2011 11:09 pm
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Trout. Would it be the case that the bulk of the work in one of your lights is in the assembly?

Would it make any sense to offer them in "kit" form with the same profit in it at a reduced price?


 
Posted : 12/05/2011 11:16 pm
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Uphillcursing
the largest cost is the housings getting them made in the UK in small quantities.
and the build time is the time taker for sure .

I will send them as kits if requested but then the onus is on the builder to assemble in and solder correctly .I much prefer to build /test / send out and ship working lights though .

here is a laugh
the spider eyes light was way too heavy for use on the lid so it got butchered to lose as much metal as possible it came out looking a bit disheveled but of a usable weight on the lid

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Posted : 13/05/2011 5:27 am
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Trout, nice.
I'll get you the triple/single XML measured lumens next week, been too busy doing real work this week.


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 7:16 am
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Cheers Chris. when I have finished playing around. I will send the aspheric light for you to
test


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 11:48 am
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not adding a great deal to this thread except to say "WOW", taht looks absolutely fabulous.

Those latest beam shots are superb and really give you a feel for just how good this is.

Magic.

plus, as others have said, what a brilliant looking thing!

Can I oder one please? (a whole one, not in bits unless you can put them togetehr with prit stik and packing tape)

Kev


 
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Looks amazing Chris, wondered what my Hope HID output would of looked like with 3 XMLs in?

Anyone wondered about the spate of grassland wildfires recently and Chris out testing the new light!


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 12:59 pm
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Good lord! 😯


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 1:05 pm
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He's taking you all for a mug. That last beam shot was taken in daylight with the sky photoshoped black. 😀 Seriously though they are some impressive lights you've got there.


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 1:43 pm
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Out of interest Chris, what burn times are you getting on max power?


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 2:30 pm
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Trout you are ****ing bonkers! I love it !!! 😀


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 3:25 pm
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I want one of those little helmet lights!


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 4:00 pm
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I whispered about the Snake Eyes to my Lumi LED3 last night. It started to cry....


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 4:10 pm
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Quirrel. the downside to mounting the light on the headtube is the dazzle from the cables flapping about in the beam

If the light unit is curved to fit a head tube, could you not have the cable coming out the side and battery mounted behind on frame.


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 5:40 pm
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Think he meant brake/gear cables


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 5:43 pm
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run time on mental full from a 4 cell 7.4 volt smudge battery would be around 1 hour
not yet had time to do runtime tests at the various power levels

I want to do a bit more testing and tweaking before getting together with my cnc pal for a few housings .
I have just received 50 of the spider eye lenses so I guess there will be around 50 made sometime soon well ( well in time for the dark evenings .

May even do a limited few of better looking dual spider eyes for the registered blind mtber

If you want to annoy your fitter mates from far behind then drop me a mail requesting to be on the list for one of the 50 or a double spider-eyes


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 8:04 pm
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Stupid question this, but what kind of price are you looking at for your ballpark 50 production run? Cause I'd bite your arm off for that...


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 8:49 pm
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I have no idea at the moment depends on machining costs when I get them

what would your idea of a fair price for such a light be ( car salesman mode )


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 9:19 pm
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Just to clarify please:
The beam shots, the bottom = the dual spider for the blind?
The shot labelled little helmet light 2 XML - is this the single spider eye?

Ta!


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 9:33 pm
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Put me on the provisional list for the little helmet light, as long as it'll do a couple of hours. I'll email you as well.


 
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Crazy light!

Keep it going Mr T you genius mad engineer. I have visions of you going into your shed and as the door closes you the floor drops tens of storeys into a secret facility with Tesla Coils and other such things crackling in the background!

Mrs Ming may well be interested in one come winter time. Keep us updated as to progress.


 
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Interested just hope I can afford one.


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 10:03 pm
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Count me in for one the spider eyes one chris.
i,ll take one please to add to my trout collection. 😀


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 10:19 pm
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Fantastic lights Chris!
I can't help but think of one of those deep ocean, spacehopper eyed fish though! Barrelfish?

That would be megga with my Liberator!!!!


 
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Out of interest what would a driver of a car see if you looked directly at the car approaching from your left when you're waiting to join a road at a t junction? Those lights look feltching bright!


 
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Really interested in the double, have sent you an email.

Good effort chap.


 
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Thread Hi-jack, sorry 😛

Troutie, you’re not the only one who’s been ‘beavering away’ since last winter! Yep, it’s me again but I’m back with the finished article ….your little bast’d 🙄

Before I bore you even more I just want to say those spider-eyes units are the dogs, the output/performance is staggering….and I thought my Lumi HID was impressive LAUGH OUT LOUD.

Toutie, the SUGRU was a massive success, from waterproofing plugs & sockets, insulating soldered wires, ‘forging’ mounting stubs and moulding bar switch housings. It’s SO easy to work with, yet easy to remove with a Stanley knife.

Here it all is then, your old unit re-vamped

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The sugru-tastic bar switch

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OOooowww, the running light

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Beam shots, bit rubbish tbh.

I tried to position the main beam area 4/5metres away. The climbing frame is 37metres away and the garden is 42.

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HID

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Little Bast'd

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Loved making it, dispite the huge time to do so... Well, thanks Troutie and BCT .....looking forward to upgrading the Lumi can to XML love 😈


 
Posted : 13/05/2011 11:39 pm
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Nice one Love tubs
wondered how you were getting on with it .

@ Infidel

That is correct bright shot Spider eyes
little helmet light 2 xml = half spider I guess

It would appear a lot of you are registered blind as requests for a spider eyes are double requests for half spider .

Might have to rethink the housing situation with the cnc guy .


 
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Not bad for a guy who said he was quiting building lights about a week ago! 😆

They do get better and better, have the nights started drawing in yet?

Keep up the good work MrT


 
Posted : 14/05/2011 11:23 am
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Chris - how heavy is your spider light compared to your other XMLs?


 
Posted : 14/05/2011 11:37 am
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Stuey
This one weighs in at 147 grams


 
Posted : 16/05/2011 5:54 am
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would you put me down for the full spider please! email sent


 
Posted : 16/05/2011 11:40 am
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<shonky eyes-poor bike skills>

If I ran such a bright helmet light - would it swamp my Trout MK1 and make me blind to trail drops - lose shadows ?

How much light are people really running?

</shonky eyes-poor bike skills>


 
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Definitely put me down for a half-spider, but maybe the full retina burner as my eyes are not what they used to be? Let me know when you have costings 🙂


 
Posted : 16/05/2011 1:21 pm
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Hi Chris, possably interested in a spider eyes light, what voltage battery is required?


 
Posted : 17/05/2011 6:49 am
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Trout.

Nice work there, good to see that you've got your light [i]Mojo[/i] back 🙂

What camera settings are we using now for beam shots, please.

Cheers.
🙂


 
Posted : 17/05/2011 7:18 am
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what would your idea of a fair price for such a light be ( car salesman mode )

er.... I have no frame of reference. Somewhere between £50 and £200?


 
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