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Currently on offer for £25, potential replacement for Rekons on my E Bike drop from 2.8 to 2.6 anyone had these? Any good in the wet stuff?
I love mine! Good everywhere and doesn't feel slow
I like 'em but if you want wet, you'd be better with the Hillbilly which is just a wee bit more expensive.
(I do reckon the dhr2 is a better tyre allround, but it's pretty much exactly twice the price, so...)
If you want a 29x2.6 Gripton Grid Butcher, I have an unused one you can have cheap!
I bought the 2.6 Butcher but didn't get on with it at all on the front-the cornering grip is either on or off not unlike the first hi roller due to the gripless space between the center tread and the outer with no transitional knobs.The ground where I am is baked hard-with dust and kitty litter type swarf over the top of it from a dry summer though .I'm sure they must perform better cornering wise on softer terrain.
Their Eliminator tyre was much better for me in this respect .
I quite like the tread pattern and decent grip, but found the casings too flimsy. They squirmed too much for my liking on a standard mtb, so I imagine with the extra weight of an e-bike they might not be great.
I agree with Northwind on the Hillbilly. Great tyre for the wet and decent in the dry. Slow roller, mind.
I loved the 2.3 but don’t like the 2.6 (27.5).
As Gravesend says, they can break loose easily on gravelly surfaces and this happened a few times when I was in Les Arcs over summer. I’ve gone back to a Mary Addix soft
Having said that, my riding buddy has the 2.6 29” (gripton flavour) and says it’s the best tyre he’s ever used on the front.
So the Hillbilly might be better then? Tyre choice is a minefield! 🙄
Hillbilly F - Eliminator R
The 2.6 Hillbilly does come up fairly narrow even on 35mm rims so would likely be a big size decrease from your 2.8.
I don’t like them, as a big lad, I need to run them too hard to stop the rim taking a bashing & then they start pinging off stuff. Probably work fine with an insert.. local shop usually have a box of them dumped off new bikes, £15 a piece (race co Stourbridge, if you want some)
My option on Butcher Grid would be to buy something else.
As others have said, they have a weak sidewall (presumably to save a bit of weight) and it does mean they lack a bit of support, the tread looks OK, but it's shallow, and in anything other than summer conditions, just doesn't have enough bite, and it's hopelessly overwhelmed in winter/rainy slop. I think as a 2 (maybe 3 if it was dry) season rear tyre it'd be OK, as you can put enough air in it to stop squirming about, but I'd not use it on the front at all.
Mine gave way at the bead-sidewall interface on Insufficient Funds at BPW. It was OK until then, except needed more air to stop the sidewalls squirming. It was a 2.6.
Replaced with a Michelin Wild Enduro 2.4. Miles better and not much narrower.
The HillBilly 2.6 on the front has been fine, but I'll likely put a 2.4 or 2.6 WE on there, too.
I think the side knobs are quite squirmy too, they’re very tall. So even at higher pressures it never felt right. I’ll probably try it again when the trails turn to mush (next week then!) but it’s definitely not a summer tyre.
Interested to try a Michelin but can never seem to find any in stock when it’s new tyre time
Running them on most of the bikes from the 2.8 on the ebike to 2.6 front and 2.3 on rear on the back on the others.
The grids arnt as good on the sidewalls as the older versions, we run them all year round in all conditions an have used them in the Alps, Spain and Finale and all over the UK. Our daughter has competed with them over the last five years and for the last 18 months has used the Blck Dmnd compound due too the better protection.
The Grids are been sold off cheap due to the fact that they are been replaced by a Grid Trail which will sits between the Grid and the Blck Dmnd.
I got a 2.3 and didn't like it all the first time I rode it, made me very nervous! I put the old DHF back on temporarily for Ardrock but we know what happened there. I've switched back to the butcher again and have done one Lakes ride, tried dropping the pressure as much as I felt comfortable with (by feel) and it felt better. Only one ride in so far though.
Id echo others comments, had a Butcher on the front (29x2.3) Grid casing, on a wet and stony steep descent last Friday I lost the front end and went OTB, I think the spacing between the centre knobs and side knobs seems a bit on/off, equally it may be a lack of finess/skills on my part. Ive stuck a Hans Dampf back on now just to have a bit more transtion between upright and cornering.
Thanks all for the replies , Tracey thought they might be being replaced with a new version . So it's back to £50 for a tyre then ! 🙄🙄🙄🙄
i liked it. Its a lot better in mud thna the purgatory but i agree it does get a bit slipery. I thought that when used as a rear it was very bouncy but ok on the front at lower pressures.
swapped the rear burther to a eliminator black diamond. by christ its very heavy and draggy but it grips well.
Didn't like them myself, agree with the on-off grip thing. Especially in wet.
I'd strongly recommend a Magic Mary 2.6 snakeskin soft, recently got one myself and it's a brilliant all-rounder.
Not expensive from ze Germans.
Butcher and hill billy do really well on steep tw3d valley stuff both dry and wet. The hill billy stuck me in a tree first ride as it gripped more than I was expecting. I really like em
2.6 Blk diamond butchers did me proud for 9 days in whistler.
2.6 Butcher grid on geometron 2.3 DHR2 in double down on the back
2.3 Butcher grid on the hard tail 2.3 purgatory grid on the back.
I had and eliminator on the back of the geometron but cut it right at the bead with a sharp rock pinch flat after 10 miles. While fixing it i watched 7 riders come though, they all avoided my line so that might have been line choice rather than a poor tyre.
I've got a hill billy to try this winter.