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What do people make of it? Looks to me to be a great looking bike and hopefully the spec will be similar to the current Evol which are great for the money. If these are available in the new year and the money is right I can definitely see me demoing one and taking it to the Peaks.
Curious to see what they bring as a distinguishing selling point for it. The 120-140mm travel 29er market is getting quite crowded lately. It needs some feature pack, unless is just another drop in the ocean, in this case from a not too well known brand.
They could easily use their bikepacking curriculum, not too many FS trail/am frames being marketed as bikepacking friendly
Curious to see what they bring as a distinguishing selling point for it
Price, probably.
Curious to see what they bring as a distinguishing selling point for it
Price, probably.
Definitely that. Direct sales from a company that is, if not we'll know, it is well respected.
Not that i’m In the market for one, having just bought an S-150, but I much prefer the look of the earlier version with the hydroforming. The newer version looks a bit dated TBH.
Yep, I'm sure price will be reasonable, but considering that factor alone don't we already have YT, Vitus, Nukeproof, Whyte and most likely soon a Canyon?
And yes, the first prototype looked like a production model, not the other way around
Not very braw, and looks heavy.
Hardly a 'crowded' market...hell, if thats what folk want to buy then companies will build but they'll all be different in some way that'll help folk narrow it down
Personally im after a mid (110-140) travel full suss 29er that takes 27.5+ but, whilst i suspect this will be good vfm, i also think it'll be a bit heavier than i want
A bit odd they moved to a straighter downtube and now think they need more water bottle clearance. Surely that would have been part of the planning?
66/74.5 angles and slightly longer chainstay on a 120R/130F travel 29er sounds almost perfect to me....
There might be a lot of 29er FS bikes about at the moment but they either seem to have tasty angles with 140mm+ travel, or as the travel reduces the angles seem to steepen up...
Obvious comparison for me would be with the Bird Aeris 120/140/AM9 I'd like the 140/AM9's angles and geometry on a 29er, but with the 120's travel numbers...
Maybe I'm just a bit odd though.
I was thinking about this after seeing the original story in STW but every time I look at a cheap non mainstream bike my brand snob mate turns his nose up and suggests I get a 'proper bike'. I have had several On-one bikes and they have been fine so I don't think I will be troubled with Uncool Angst. Are there any genuine reasons for preferring a well known, more expensive brand over a direct sales cheapie?
Yep, I’m sure price will be reasonable, but considering that factor alone don’t we already have YT, Vitus, Nukeproof, Whyte and most likely soon a Canyon?
Are Whyte a cheap/value brand now?
Are Whyte a cheap/value brand now?
They definitely tend towards being better value than some of the big brands.
Yep, I’m sure price will be reasonable, but considering that factor alone don’t we already have YT, Vitus, Nukeproof, Whyte and most likely soon a Canyon?
Do any of those do a long/low/slack 29er with ~120mm of travel? Plenty of bigger travel bikes but very few that (IMO) look designed to work in the UK. 160mm of travel and geometry designed to winch up a British Columbia fire road for two hours before bombing back down is great if that's where you live, not so great on the kind of +/-100ft undulating trails we tend to get a lot more of in the UK.
Like someone up there said, a Bird AM9 with more everyday useable travel figures.
My Cotic Flaremax is pretty damn long and low and slack and it's 120mm travel. Climbs lovely.
My Cotic Flaremax is pretty damn long and low and slack and it’s 120mm travel. Climbs lovely.
Yea, but Cotic frames are about my full bike budget :p
Looks good. Like the straighter tunes personally.
dont agree that the market for FS is flooded, seems to be XC orientated or big bikes like the AM9. If I was in the market I’d be tempted by this depending on how it shapes up in final iteration. Water bottle mounts important for me and I’d also like to see what packages they do on full builds, but judging from their other offerings they normally get very good VFM.
Five months till they're taking pre-orders, which means you'd be riding it by next summer hopefully...
Actually If they could do ful<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">l builds/frame only pricing on par with those currently available on the 'Evol' I'd potentially be pretty interested... </span>
<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">Either buy the bare frame and strip my current HT or have an NX1/Recon </span><span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">build and maybe change the forks after the first year or so, just to have an affordable bouncer with fun angles and sensible travel... Hmmm. </span>
Cookea,
Thats exactly the type of bike i want. Hence my recent thread asking if anyone knows of an sb100 type bike that doesnt cost 6k!
SB100 would be a cracking bike but it's way way way out of most people's range due to the cost.
I've priced up the bike build I want but it's still £1.5k for the parts even before I buy the frame and that's still above my reach at the moment. Suspect most of the big ticket items (fork and wheels in particular) will be second hand to try and bring the cost of parts below £1k mark.
Fair point about the budget on the Cotic - they're not cheap. I can't afford one which is exactly how I come to have one.
When I emailed Sonder, Andy wrote back saying that as it stands now it'll be closer to November/December than September - if that makes any difference to anyone.
Soy, when I was riding my 120/130mm Salsa Horsethief back in 2013 I was a bit ahead of the curve?
Had 28mm tyres and mudguards on my road bike then too.
But seriously, look at old Salsa frames?
I accept that the long, slack, AM-ish 120/130mm market might not be crowded, but isn't the 140mm?
Is 20mm difference of travel that dramatic?
Has there been any development on this? Im going to be looking for a 29er trail bike frame soon, and this could be on the list if its similar to the evol.