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There is a chap on here trying to sell a Specialized pitch and in his latest ad he has some how managed to use a picture of my old bike??
Is that fair game or should i be a bit pissed??
He is trying to pass off his bike as being only ridden for 20 miles which is clearly hasnt and my picture shows my bike when it was new so he is trying to mislead people.
What do you think?
Report it to the mods. Bang out of order and misleading / misrepresentation.
Sounds like he's scamming.
A reply on his For Sale thread is in order.
He is also passing it off as a medium when it was in fact a large
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Its wrong/scam. Report it to the mods asap
Definitely not fair game. He's misleading a potential buyer by posting pictures of different bike to the one he is selling.
He has also used his own pics though to.
Just found his ad on ebay to and he has used the same picture.
The thread in question.........
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/specialized-pitcch-pro-rrp1900
my picture is the one at the top......
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Looks like he did it last time he tried to sell it too...
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/for-sale-2010-specialized-pitch-pro-ridden-20-miles
Clearly they are different sizes too! His ebay ad has full pics of the other bike.
The top picture is different from the detail photo's. They clearly show its a medium. He probably forgot to take a full bike picture and just did a search for one of the same bike. It just happened to be Renton's.
No different to using a stock photo really, but I can se how it raises an alarm.
He's not the current owner, is he?he has some how managed to use a picture of my [b]old[/b] bike??
Nope rusty mine was a large and he is selling a medium !!
Ah rusty I see you have edited your post !!
Renton, I've posted a link to this thread on his FS post, so potential buyers are aware, and have also reported it to the mods.
Good luck mate, I'm sure The Mods will sort it out.
The photo he's taken of his bike is pretty crap with bad lighting and a shadow over it. He probably got back to the computer and thought sod it I'll just find another picture.
Pretty lazy and not very honest but the close up shots give better detail of the bikes condition anyway so I don't think it's [i]that[/i] misleading.
two weeks ago he posted a picture of a bike , he was challenged that the forks and cranks looked more worn than the description would suggest he responded that the pic was a stock picture and he would post some actual images of the bike latter . He then put up links to images of your bike suggesting it was the actual bike for sale. Personally I would not touch with a barge pole.
he used a 'stock image' last time he advertised it (but did mention it).
I am afraid that the offending add is mine.
The detailed pictures are of my bike however as taxi25 states I used a stock image of google as I forgot to take a full size image from a distance. I picked a poor day with bad sun for my outdoor images.
No offence was intended and there is no case of misrepresentation it just seemed easier than waiting for another well lit day to re photograph.
wwaswas - Member
he used a 'stock image' last time he advertised it (but did mention it).
And then further down the thread linked to some other photos he claimed were the actual bike, but are in fact Renton's!!
Yeah, I deleted it when I realised that the STW sleuths had already answered the question...then put it back when I noticed that you'd replied 🙂Ah rusty I see you have edited your post !!
ah, I didn't follow the links assumed they were the same ones he used later of his own bike.
Renton - just delete/move the images you have - they'll stop appearing in his ad as he's direct linked to them.
Edit: Just seen his reply. All becomes clear.
Looks pretty misleading to me mate, apart from the tyres on my bike which were swapped over from my previous bike it was pretty much mint.
No disrespect but I think your bike has done more than 20 miles.
He then put up links to images of your bike suggesting it was the actual bike for sale. Personally I would not touch with a barge pole.
he didn't though the links are to pictures of the medium bike ( presumably his ) not Renton's.
Golden rule though only post pictures of what your actually selling.
If it is all legit and bike is as described then that would be a bargain, I'm almost tempted myself.
But, newish, classified only member, inconsistencies and question marks...
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does smack of a lazy seller!
His bike even has a flat tyre!
I think he is just using his initiative.
A few years ago I advertised an Enduro frame on here with photos. Agreed a price with a guy who insisted he pick it up and would only pay cash on collection. Every time we agreed to meet he had an excuse as to why he couldn't make it. Whilst browsing ebay to see what other frames were fetching I saw a frame for sale for a lot more than I was asking for, the photos were identical in every way to mine including the stuff on the garage walls, and advertised in the same location that he lived in. Contacted him and told him that due to him dragging his feet it was no longer for sale to him.
Sold some new Oakley shorts last year on here. Guy got a real bargain. They were back up in the classifieds the day after they were delivered using the same photo I had taken
I think this is happening a lot more but its hard to track everything.
Im not bothered if someone buys something of me and sells it on at a profit but using my photos to do it is taking the ****
Can you reply to the moderator email we sent you please anderson365?
Cheers
Also, using someone else's photos without license is copyright theft...
Golden rule though only post pictures of what your actually selling.
This. Without Renton spotting this, no-one may have known, especially if they didn't see the ebay ad that shows both full bike pics.
Really good ads list all the bad points and show pics of these areas, so along with the profile/history you know its legit. But maybe an an identifier added to the pic would help? Fruit of the week? This weeks ad's need a banana in the pics? Next week - pomegranate etc...
hmmm, dunno - just a thought and theres probably a better way of doing it, but it would eliminate nabbing photos from elsewhere.
Tracey that is against the forum rules on here so if you see it then please report it. Cheers.
I'm with Yak, Banana in your FS posts please. Next week, kumquat.
The bike has a flat tyer because it has not been used for just over a year.
It was ridden once from Yarm to the the Dog & Gun in Potto; an 18 mile round trip.
Yes the posting was lazy but I dont have time to ride it and struggled to get enough time to list it as you see. Still not adjusted to time management as a parent.
If its causing so much trouble can I remove/close the post?
On a computer forum I use, if you're selling then most people have a piece of paper with their username and the date on it.
I guess PC components have fewer identifying features than a 'custom' bike so it's more necessary. Still a good idea, I think.
if you're selling then most people have a piece of paper with their username and the date on it.
Seems silly when the 'Yak fruit system' is better in every way.
On a computer forum I use, if you're selling then most people have a piece of paper with their username and the date on it.
You could go for a more subtle way of identifying yourself, as seen on this photo used on eBay for the sale of a dining table
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Ahh, the man banana. He get's it.
Same inconsistencies in the pics of the Kona he is selling - some have water bottle cage some don't.
franksinatra - I'd be expecting the ban hammer (based on recent experience)...
franksinatra - I'd be expecting the ban hammer (based on recent experience)...
Really? Oh well. It has been a long time since I was last told off on here so maybe I am due a reminder.
So long, goodbye..........
franksinatra - I'd be expecting the ban hammer (based on recent experience)...
Maybe it's like Where's [s]Willy[/s] Wally, and the mods havent found him yet?
No Dirk Diggler here - move along, nothing to see.
I've got some stuff to sell soon. I'll sneak some fruit into the pics to start this off.
Fruit idea sounds great, until you realise that most people don't know what a kumquat is, and post pictures of physalises (physalii?) instead.
And then you get into issues about whether a banana is strictly a fruit or a herb.
And then finally, comedians will deliberately misread physalis and post a picture of whatever it is they're selling with with their phallus clearly visible. Although, let's be honest, that's hardly likely to happen.
the fruit thing would also encourage Jamie to get seriously mischievous with photoshop.
I'm not sure the mods are taking it seriously. I've just reported all the new FS adds for lack of fruit placement and nothings been done.
Scurries of to google physalis.
we ordered physalis to come with our Tesco delivery t'other week. Much hilarity when the driver was trying to read out the things that were out of stock...
"The first Druid. Physalis(c) was born from the Terrigran tree in Rospero forest. A forest hidden deep within the soul of the Earth where Gaia resides. This was her first attempt at human life using a cat. He is attracted to his own gender."
Urban Dictionary
OR:
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I will never forget just how bitter unripe physalis are.
[i]I will never forget just how bitter unripe physalis are[/i]
[Harry Hill TV Burp Jingle]
Middle Class Problem of The Day
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😉
we ordered physalis to come with our Tesco delivery t'other week
One should have ordered from Ocado 😛
I will never forget just how bitter unripe physalis are.
Just hang in there, soldier. It'll get better....one day....
Pretty lazy and not very honest but the close up shots give better detail of the bikes condition anyway so I don't think it's that misleading.
I would say it's about as misleading as it gets!
Fair enough if you state in the ad that the bike pictured isn't yours, merely an example of what it looks like. But to pass it off as your own is fraud, I'd say. Definitely not acceptable.
The French call physalis 'l'amour-en-cage' which roughly translates as 'get in the love cage'*
*(it's actually love-in-a-cage)
If you don't want pictures nicking, don't put them in the public domain. Simples!!
If you don't want pictures nicking, don't put them in the public domain. Simples!!
*fetches troll feeding spoon*
Same thoughts on cars, bikes left outside, kids with candy etc... ?
And stupid catchphrases from crap tv adverts to identify numpties on the internet?
And stupid catchphrases from crap tv adverts to identify numpties on the internet?
Oh, Houns. You're so waffly versatile.
Has nobody pointed out that the OP's wall and paving are in a shocking state whereas the [s]scammer[/s] seller has clearly made an effort in that regard. Surely that's got to count for something?
Fruit? I have pork pies, will that do?
Jamie, I love yaw coopcake
I'm not banned yet!
Jamie, I love yaw coopcake
You're greeeeeeeeaaaaaat!
Here we go - first go at using the security fruit 🙂 (apples this week btw)
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/fs-specialized-secteur-full-bike-felt-f95-frame-bg-road-shoes
security fruit ... (apples this week btw)
good idea but the stem needs slamming
Aye. There's a core of a good idea there. I just hope the next variety isn't Cox's.....
damn, pipped to the gags......
what happens if stuff takes more than a week to sell?
do we end up with an increasingly rotten apple next to it as the time lapse continues or do I need to invest in additional fruit and take more pics each week?
Maybe if I just take a picture with a fruit bowl with a good selection in and reuse the pics for weeks?
Jamie wants the apple 🙂
Hmmm a big fruit bowl will future proof a long sale.
After about year or so of this though, google will be awash with fruit and bike bits pics so we'll have to change to something else.
Pastries?
garden weeds seem a popular choice.
maybe just a piece of paper with your username on?
unless you have multiple logins it should future proof any sales and make it difficult for others to claim it was their apple all along.
the apple gives the sale a certain appeal (geddit!!) though 🙂
If you think using somebody else's photo's to sell your bike's cheeky, how about using our shop's ad to try and flog a bike you've stolen from us (dodgy agency driver at a courier service, and yes, he did get stung by the police).
"RELISTED DUE TO TIMEWASTERS" that just makes my piss boil and puts me off looking at something I may be interested in. Angry sellers as they didn't make a sale 😆