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My son bought a cheap giant full suss bike which he changed a few bits on , It had front and back old fox forks and shock. The bike wwas no beauty but we paid a bike shop to give it a wee service before he sold it onto a friend for £200.
A month later the mother is phoning me ranting and raving and wanting a full refund as its been in the bike shop twice and had punctures. She claims its only been ridden 5 times and was a heap.
I've offered to get the bike serviced again at my own expense and even offered to lend her son a wee jump bike whilst its getting done. Shes adamant that she wants the full refund . What to do .??
Tell her to jog on.
How much does your son value the friendship ?
Or just refund to shut her up and sell it to someone else.
Give her the money back, sell it again, blank her when in the street. It's not worth the grief.
If its in similar condition to when sold I'd give her the refund probably, then sell it to someone who wasn't expecting a brand new super tough DH bike for BSO money.
EDIT: ^^^ I could have saved myself the typing there
Punctures are your problem then ?
Some weirdo's out there.
It's had punctures, it's clearly a shit bike. You're lucky she's not phoning the police.
Answer would depend on the age of your son. 11 or 12 do as above. 26 piss yourself laughing.What to do .??
In the bike shop twice?
Was that to fix the punctures or to fix the bike?
If it was punctures (or even v basic tweaks) maybe explain to her all types of bike get punctures and then offer to teach her son (and yours, so he is not the only one) how to fix a puncture (and maybe basic bike care, clean lube, M check type thing)
Depends what the issues are. If just punctures then it's not your problem. Technically it's a second hand bike and it's sold as seen in my mind.
Ifsomething catastrophic has gone wrong and it's a good friend that makes it more tricky.
Providing the bike was in good working fashion when sold I wouldn't refund the money. By doing so you'd only empower the woman and give her encouragement to continue acting in an unreasonable fashion.
First repair was a broken mech hanger , second was a gear issue. After numerous texts between her son and mine she has agreed to give me back the bike to get fixed and ill give her my sons wee jump bike for his pal to use. Hopefully after the bike is fixed she punts it on or moves away from the area. 😉
Providing the bike was in good working fashion when sold I wouldn't refund the money. By doing so you'd only empower the woman and give her encouragement to continue acting in an unreasonable fashion
Very much this. Metaphorical slat-hoofage.
No way would I be lending another bike or paying for a service.
What bike, out of interest?
Ten to one he shags the jump bike too 🙂
Its an old Giant Ac2 , big lump of a bike . Worked fine though.
And when he shags the jump bike it won't be him at fault, you will be a serial crap bike selling swindler.
Cheapest and easiest way to get rid of her is to refund and let her pester some other mug.
As with all second hand stuff... Sold. As. Seen
Tell her to jog on.
scotroutes - Member
Tell her to [s]jog on[/s] take a flying **** to herself
so what are you fixing,if its been in the shop?
You leaving yourself wide open to maintaining this bike for life now. I'd tell her it was sold as seen a month ago.
stanfree - Member
Its an old Giant Ac2 , big lump of a bike . Worked fine though
I thought they’d all cracked by 2002!
If it was in good condition when sold then went in for new mech hanger and gear problems it sounds like he’s either crashed it or taken a nasty rock strike. It does seem as though you’re not getting the whole story based on your account.
Jump bike is on gumtree or shpock by now
Tell her if she expected a warranty she should've bought a new bike.
tell her you'll buy it back for £100.
The only possible way out of this predicament is to kill her and dump the body in a canal.
Is it fifteen years old?
Surly you got them to confirm it all worked when they bought it?
And it’s sounds like the lad has damaged the rear mech hence why the gears are not working !
Was the mech broken when sold? If not politely point out the error of her accusations and tell her to do one
Is your boys friend his mothers son? If so it may be worth telling them both to seek alternative company, to use the parlance of our times.
And yes, if you repair it this time because she's given it the big one then you'll have a job for life.
Is she fit?
New cables fitted at the service you got it? If so, second time would have been cable stretch most likely...
I know people like you and they always get taken advantage of. Some people have no shame and others will snap themselves in half trying to please. I agree it’s not worth it for a £200 bike, so refund.
Jeez, you're not John Lewis, there's still plenty of retailers who don't have a 30 day refund policy let alone a "courtesy bike" service. Bent hanger, "a gear issue" and punctures all just sound like her son's treating it like crap.
First repair was a broken mech hanger , second was a gear issue.
Ah, the classic symptoms of a child dropping the bike when they get off.
That is service above and beyond by a long way. Got any other bikes for sale?
He's not nicknamed Del Boy for nothing. For those suggesting or thinking, hoof her in the slats, that would be considered foreplay where he lives. You should send Winston round with his adventure bike slideshow. Bore her into submission.
Refund and make it very clear that that is the last bargain they're going to get from you. Don't involve your kid or hers, if she wants to lower it by saying something to her kid, then let her.
She's probably sat around all day in her dressing gown trying to work out how to screw every penny out of other people without getting off her tracksuit bottom attired arse and getting a job.
Sounds like she is more than happy to excercise her inner chav. I would just refund to get her out of my life. You could well be 'right' about everything, but it won't stop a tosser like her from potentially bringing hassle to your door. Depends how much you need that £200?
Alternatively, if she has a husband/ partner then go round and slap him for running a loose house. Or if she is single, find the ex and slap him around for being a quitter.
This thread has taken a vicious slant...
Quite clearly some folks are not that kind.
Having had a similar situation (although not the same) ive been showing someones son how to fix their bike. They have a BSO and its rubbish apparently because it keeps getting flats. They have taken it to halfords numerous times and had a new inner tube fitted. They are fed up and thinking of selling the bike that this kid loves! i mean really loves.
So took it round to mine. Fixed the gears (apparently there wasnt an issue, just that they didnt index properly) showed him how to take a wheel out and fix his wheel and brakes.
He was so chuffed and happy. Hes also started to wear his helmet every time he rides because i do.
If the lady was being un reasonable then give her her money back but maybe just spend an hour showing this kid how to look after his bike regardless. Some folks arnt as fortunate as us and in my mind everyone can come out a winner.
Depends how much you need £200 . For some people £200 is a lot of money to spend on a 2nd hand bike.
I would offer her a refund and sell it to someone who realises the bikes worth.
Sounds like she's trying it on to get some money back in and it sounds like you have been very reasonable in response to that, so no chance, they bought the bike not blooming hired it!
As a buyer, it's the buyers responsibility to inspect a second hand bike, then decide if it's worth the asking price before agreeing to pay for or just say thanks but no thanks. once it leaves the drive way, it's their bike.
She's taking the Michael.
A wee update , My sons pal took the bike round with his mum today . Not much dialogue when she dropped it off but as Im getting the bike shop to fix it I explained it might be about a week. On inspecting the filthy bike and explaining Id have to clean the bike before taking it down there. It seemed the freehub had gone and when loading the bike onto the rack noticed the front cones need tightened. Took the bike down there and explained the story , The lad has broken the rear hub . The shop will fit an old wheel rather than muck about . Its a lesson learned not to sell to your mates and wont happen again. As my son is 14 and been good pals with the boy since they started school its not worth the hassle telling the mum to GTF.
Fair dos.
Stanfree is a good person.
Hoof her in the slats! that made me spit coffee all over my desk 🙂
The lad has broken the rear hub
Hmmmm that may be stretching things slightly. Sure the hub ain't working, but he's not had it long, along with the front cones needing sorting, which IMO should have been down to you before sale.
Unless he's been thoroughly abusing it, i'm not sure either of these are his fault.
I'd politely explain to her that bikes require maintenance and that she should look at enrolling her son on the local council bike maintenance course.
You've properly gone above and beyond. I'd have shown her a picture of my mates balls after he fell out of a tree and caught his sack on a protruding branch, ripping it wide open and leaving his nuts dangling in the fresh air, with claret all bleeding down his legs.
I guess that's why I've never bothered having kids. Hate the things 🙂
Its a lesson learned not to sell to your mates and wont happen again
Yep, been there.
A wee update for anyone thats interested. I picked up the bike from the LBS who had done a full service and fitted a new back wheel. £97 lighter I dropped the bike off with the boys mum. All smiles and thanks , the lad brought my sons bike back covered in mud.
A bit pissed of but thinking I may get some good karma a day later I see the bike advertised at £350 in the local FB adds. 😀 The lad has as much chance of getting this as I have of bumping into Margot Robbie down the local woods and getting a wee snog. 😀
So in essence the unsafe lump of sh**e thatwasnt worth £200 is now worth £350.
OP..... Are you crazy?
So you're 100 quid lighter and the buyer is going to make on your good will....
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Holy crap, if that was my lad's mate I'd be having a word about not taking the piss out of mates.
Sound like a right pair of low quality motherflumpers...
Have you got any more bikes for sale?
Unbelievable...
A bit pissed of but thinking I may get some good karma a day later I see the bike advertised at £350 in the local FB adds.
Link to the FB page? I feel some urine needs to be extracted 😉
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Can I msg the seller and ask about warranty?
Stanfree will take care of any warranty that is required
Can I msg the seller and ask about warranty?
Just ask if they can recommend anyone local for bike maintenance. 🙂
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Link to the FB page? I feel some urine needs to be extracted
Not many Giant AC2's have been posted for sale at £350 on Facebook today 😉
Must. Not. Enquire.
Joking aside, and the last couple of posts are very good by the way! 😀 ... That's pretty low of this other woman.
I wouldn't let it affect the kids friendship but I'd say to my lad "never again".
For what it's worth op, I'm like you, try to muddle through life not hurting anyone and believing in karma only to get it thrown in my face occasionally.
That said, most people are actually pretty decent at a fundamental level.
Slightly different scenario but it's like when you sort a PC out for someone. You run the risk of being free tech support for life! I didn't mind it too much bitd as I used to enjoy tinkering with PC's but some people blatantly knew they were taking the mick.
Shame on me for letting them do that, possibly?
I'd sooner be how I am than the opposite however. 🙂
Louis? Or Louise?
Tempted to ask what warranty they are offering on the sale of the bike
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stanfree@ Update us when you able to sell it. 😀
Stanfree - you haven’t just had a phone call from the bike shop owner telling you about the dangerous crack (other defects are available) in the frame that the Saturday lad forgot to tell you about have you?
Obviously if she’ll let you have the bike back you’ll make the problem go away...
Show her this thread then never talk to her again.
You've allowed a bully to take the p!sh but I understand that as it's for your son's friendship.
Chav scum in acting like chav scum shocker
I’m totally astounded by your generosity Stanfree.
Giving the bike a once over / clean up for someone when they don’t know what they’re doing, but paying for after sales support just so they can make a profit is on a different level.
I'd go and take it back and charge her a rental fee for its use along with a cleaning fee for the loan bike........
Dickhea* takes advantage of nice guy (aka mug) shocker.
When will people learn.
Too nice for your own good, Stan.
I would advise keeping yourself and your son away from the revolting fishwife and her family in case he substitutes some of your traits for some of hers.