[Closed] So who’s got the new 12speed SunRace Kit?

Anyone got and ridden theirs yet?

Anyone,,,

Bueller,,,

ANYONE?

Eeeck! Thought atleast a fair few.

I remember seeing a television programme about penguins standing on the edge of an ice floe waiting to jump into the sea to go fishing.  They were nervous about doing so in case there were lurking seals to attach them.  It appeared that sometimes a penguin would push a neighbour in to test the water.

Aha, I see what you’re saying 😉😂

i'm ordering mine next week so I'll report back as soon as it goes on 🙂  (about 5 mins after it comes through the door)

I’ll report back as soon as it goes on

If a seal doesn't get you first!

Saw groupset on eBay for £225, think it was from proper bike shop but forgot to look closely.

Yep... https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/granarycycles-uk-ltd/m.html?ssPageName=&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2654

But looks like I bought only available set 😀

I will report back as soon as I will have it delivered.

Cheers!

I.

Not got the 12 speed but have 11 speed 50-11 as an upgrade on my Whyte. The 50 was very useful when at altitude in the sierra nevada!

Didn't realise it was available yet.

Although you'll probably be able to pick up NX 12 speed for a similar price.

Are the cage plates on the derailleur meant to be carbon or metal or what?

anyone got theirs yet? Have setup the new Sunrace rear derailleur with X1 shifter & 11speed 11-46 cassette

worked up & down the road, real test on trails tomorrow.....

Yo Transition1- has the derailleur got a carbon jockey cage ?

I don’t think it’s Carbon toughen polymer I think. Worked ok at Surrey Hills today

Mine landed today. Didn't even had time to unbox it 😭

Hoping to instal it on Saturday and give ot a bash Tuesday/Wednesday either in Lakes or somewhere in Wales.

Cheers!

I.

Just the stw review iirc showed it was carbon bit when infact taking it out the box appears to be alloy.

I know they do 3 levels/prices of rear derailleur.

Hey transition bud, may you please link me to these 3 different rear mechs. Thanks

http://www.ison-distribution.com/english/searchresults.php?group=310&brand=sunrace

hope that link works

Thanks bud - it would seem that mine is a MX60.

I am still alright with that though as thought the deal would have included the carbon version. Damn suppose can’t have it all 😜

Tdog was yours off eBay as a groupset? I am tempted to see how the cheap one compares to the MZ80.

I purchased mine with a 10% off code via ebay yes.

tdog.

You got a link for where yours came from please?

I can get you a groupset but is either with the MS30 rear derailleur or the expensive MZ80, the other is currently not in stock for me

How much is the groupset with MZ80 I wonder?

@stu - I can’t seem to link from moby but try a search.

MZ80 groupset the price for your groupset plus difference in price of your derailleur & MZ80 one. As a rough guide.

Pheeeeww! Tbh I couldn’t stomach the cost of the top model one

Any reports on how this is shifting out on the trails? It's starting to filter through into the shops now..

Hi,

Just managed to put my one on the bike. Still haven't finished as found out my current NW chainring is too fat for 12 speed... In the end not surprised as it was prototype Banless stainless steel chainring for 10 speed only.

Anyways...

Managed to put all thing avaialable together but was rather surprised with the fact how much play there was between rear mech bolt and mech hanger. Initially though that it was hanger but nope, looks like there is degree of wobble in the mech itself...

My one is middle of the pack, RDMX60 if that helps... Anybody else seen anything like that?

Cheers!

I.

I’m

coming up to soon building bike up so will have an update hopefully soon but cannot tell how long as disty with a small part needed is proving tricky.

I’m running the 11-50 12 speedcasserole with SRAM , had to wind out the b screw a bit but works fine, no shifting issues

wotz a speedcasserole

It’s the opposite of a slow cooked cassette 😝

I noticed a bit of play in my rear mech out riding yesterday, tighten up the mech bolt & all was good. Mines the MZ80. currently running it on a sunrace 11-46 11 speed cassette with 11 speed KMC chain & Sram X1 11 speed shifter, all works great. So yes compatible with Sram, however have to fine tune the Limit screw for good shifting

I had another inspection of the rear derailleur with the wheel off. There is a tiny bit of movement between the mech hanger & what Sram calls the B-bolt kit. I recently had to rebuild my Sram GX rear derailleur with the B-Bolt kit due to bent B-screw, it’s almost like the derailleur is missing a crush washer. Still shifts great though.

Hows everyone getting on with this? My GF is considering changing from 2x10 to a 1x groupset, and the sunrace 12speed groupset can now be had for 200 pounds, but its an unknown for me, and i'd be worried to reccomend it to her without peoples experience. Does anyone know if it could then be used on shimano derailer in the future?

Dunno yet but having just had bike completed today, and a v short ride up road & back. Shifting is infinitely sweeter than XT.

I’ll report back ...

i was running the new MX80 rear derailleur with a Sram X1 shifter & 11 speed 11-46 sunrace cassette with KMC X11-93 chain now running it with Sram XX1 shifter off the bay & X12 KMC chain & sunrace 11-50 cassette, works ok although need to tweek B screw a bit more. I do have a sunrace shifter but do like a Sram shifter. just doing a bit of experimenting..

Hi,

First ride with Sunrace kit behind me.

2 things.

Not sure if I mounted oval ring correctly, BTW how should it be?

Shifting is a bit on the slow and soft side in comparison to SRAM 9 speed. Might be it just require fine tuning, but I'm rather not expecting miracles.

Cheers!

I.

Yeah I’ve yet to try mine offroad until my sagging reverb is sorted but that yes shifting is super light & soft going up to large ring out back from just above half way.

seems excellent kit so far. Tricky moving rear mech over when removing wheel though (mammoth task of saving fingers etc).

my rear mech makes a grindy noise when attempting this but fine in use. Guess spring needs to bed in. :/

Took a punt on this instead of gx eagle. All I can say so far is incredibly, incredibly disappointed. Fitted for last weekend, had a nice test ride to get it all settled and I was feeling pretty happy with it. Long weekend away in Wales, riding yesterday and today, so on its third ride, the plastic and aluminium arms supporting the pulley wheel have snapped/collapsed. Shifting had started going odd and when I stopped to have a look the whole pulley wheel structure was hanging off the cable.

To add insult to injury the 'sram way' of pushing the shifter release is sticking in the pushed position.

Ah,I see what you mean. The sramesque pulley that guides the cable into the mech to get rid of the outer cable loop of old...

That's a shame mate as it looked like this could be a good alternative to the big two.

Any possibility something hit it? In the pics it does look very exposed.

It is exposed indeed.

Started off fine with smooth shifting into big ring out back now wee bit rougher.

Still an improvement on XT 8000 mind.

Though SR shifter could be more defined and let me know it’s shifted smoothly with confirmed action.
Shifter could be better quality all in all.

It's sort of exposed- sticks out the back but doesn't really protrude beyond the body of the mech sideways. Granted, it's not impossible that something hit it but it'd have to be on a pretty odd trajectory to miss the body of the mech and the lower arm. I don't think anything did.

The thing is, it's just under engineered. All of the light grey bit that you can see in the picture above is some sort of plastic and basically just rests against the mech body. The side you can't see is a thin (probably) aluminium plate- it holds the other side of the wheel, the plastic bit bolts to it at the top and it in turn bolts to the mech. While it's all pretty sturdy while it's all working and the reaction force on the jockey wheel is pushing it into place, as far as I can tell once one bit gets a bit weak the rest starts taking twisting loads and goes pop. The plastic snapped in two where the 'arm' meets the base plate.

Going to be interested to hear what sunrace say and whether that bit is available as warranty.

On a plus note- after much attempted bodgery with zip ties I gave up and just accepted the cable was going to fray from the angle and just ran it without the pulley. Shifting felt horrible but on the while it soldiered on for the rest of the weekend.

I've got it on the big bike and really like the shifting but not put a lot of miles on it yet. Will watch that part but it's only got to support the cable tension as you shift so it does sound like it may have been struck/leaned against a rock?
Hope it isn't a quality issue as was already considering converting the hardtail so I have consistency of chains/cassettes.

As I say, anything is possible, but I don't think so. I'll have a really careful look once I've got it cleaned up. It's a shame as while it was working I rather liked it.

Do you have any trouble getting the back wheel out as it's incredibly fiddly on my bike- wasn't sure if that was down to the particular combination of bike and mech though.

Any chance of a pic of the broken mech mate?

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Sorry if you already know all that, don't mean to be teaching you how to suck eggs.Lol

Just thought I'd ressurect this thread now I've switched to SunRace 12spd from Shimano.
In a nutshell..... I will definitely be going back to Shimano.
I've only had three rides on the new SunRace stuff but already the clutch on the derailleur has stopped working, the shifter (as mentioned by someone else) is sticking in the forward position and the cassette seems to be dragging on my freehub almost as if it's a tiny bit too wide.
Basically none of it seems to be very well engineered. It was always going to be a gamble switching from Shimano but I now wish I hadn't.

Yeah to remove my rear wheel is a MAJOR finger cursing battle

Last Monday test on Snowdon.

Up Llanberis, down Rangers with gravel motorway up to Telegraph Valley in between.

No issues, shifting good, but indeed it tend to stick on the biggest cog of a cassette a bit.

Might be I cut my chain a bit too short.

Apart of that no issues whatsoever.

Cheers!
I.

Right, apologies those who asked questions- I've had a mad month and haven't had time to get the mech off the bike until now.

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Interesting it's not just me having a problem with the shifter sticking. Ivan- I'm not sure I want to say it but that's the second ride I did on mine, watch out!

I emailed the shop and they want it back to send off to sunrace to inspect. Which would be annoying with a 3 week or so wait. It's especially annoying because even if they replaced the part I'm not sure I'd trust it in future. Tempting to do some tin bashing and attempt to replace it myself. If it hadn't felt like an expensive month already I'd probably have GX on there by now.

Daaaaaamn mane! That is a royal pita!

Another instance here of broken guide pulley :-<
Pretty certain it wasn't an impact - trying to raise a warranty claim with the (online) retailer, but if it's a design flaw then that might be only temporary relief.
Shame as the price/weight and quality of shifting are all great.

Sorry to hear that. I bodged something together with a bit of sheet metal as a temporary fix but to be honest I just don’t trust it and think slx 12s is looking likely in my future

Likewise. SLX 12spd with a poss XTR shifter.

Does anyone know if the Sunrace shifter and 50t cassette would work with an SLX 12spd derailleur?

I would errrr on the side of probs but do not actually know for sure one way or another.

I cant see any reason why the cassette wouldn't- I ended up buying slx mech and shifter and they work fine with a sram cassette. The slx shifter is just better though, definitely go for it.

Has anyone taken the SunRace shifter apart to see why it's so crap?
Might do that tomorrow.

No however the SR shifter has so much play and no actuating to it that I am half tempted to ditch it. In favour for a much more pro active one

So after a good 6 weeks of chasing the retailer they finally refunded. Bike-discount.de

I'd suggested that this seemed to be a design fault given the other reports and assumed that they'd refunded rather than replaced because it had been agreed. As I'd bought it with the shifter as a groupset upgrade pack I made the point I needed the shifter refunding also, in order to switch to Shimano, but they won't agreed to that which is disappointing.

So to get the bloddy bike up and running again I've ended up ordering another Sunrace derailleur. Suspect it will be a case of madness to try the same thing that didn't work.....

Is anyone else finding it impossible to remove their rear wheel ?

Am I correct in thinking that the SUNRACE Dropout Extender would help this if I fitted one?

Thanks 🙂

I’d still recommend buying slx tbh, a good few miles and one alps trip later and I’m still very happpy with it

I got hold of an MX mech and have mated it to 10 speed Sunrace cassette/Zee 10 speed shifter.

Works fine, lets see how long the pulley wheel lasts!

I want to get my monies worth out of the SR mech first though

Just unsure of how to improve not being able to remove rear wheel

I believe it is a medium cage length cage hence my question needing answered on the dropout extender?

Answers on a postcard...

😜