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Anybody want to buy one of my kidneys?
Thats one fantastic bike. Seriously seriously nice. And I want one.
I'm very short. VERY short in the wheelbase. It steers quickly and feels pretty squirty up the hill outside the shop here. (I just built our demo bike up)
The very highest compliment I can give it is that it doesn't feel like a 29er, let alone 29+..... It feels closer to a 26 to my mind.
Did I say I want one?
aint it s 27+?
[EDIT] ... my mistake I'd thought it was, especially with all this years 27+ love.. I'm actually shocked, that the stache is 29+, had thought that petered out
One of these big ugly things?
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[i]I'm very short. VERY short in the wheelbase.[/i]
It's what you do with it that counts Peter. Probably.
When are your Stache 5's coming in??
I saw a 7 in the local trek store and it looked lovely in purple. Almost a bargain at £1800.........
looks like a clowns bike in that pic.
they do both 27+ and 29+ don't they?
quite intrigued myself. but it's a trek. 🙁
any 27+ in the country?
aint it s 27+?
It's 29" 29+ & 27.5+ no wonder the haterz on here are grinding their teeth.they are also way lighter than they look
How many 29ers have you ridden Peter? I've been riding various for years, and the Stache felt too 29+ for me. I've gone 650B+.
It did 'ride light' though and the forks seemed lovely.
If you're more into the winch and contouring trails than you are the plummet, I think it's a great bike. Harsh ride if you're trying to descend fast on it though.
(I've ridden one three times)
How many 29ers have you ridden Peter?
That's like asking the Amish how many iPads they've used... 😉
DrP
harsh compared to?
genuinely interested - i ride a chameleon.
Damn you PeterPoddy! You are supposed to tell us what a waste of money they are!! I'm looking at these as a possible replacement for my 29+ fronted Karate Monkey. You haven't by chance ridden a Jones+ too have you? Failing that are there any 6ftish Jones+ or Stache riders that don't mind me having a go on their bikes in return for cake/beer....
Harsher than the steel hardtail I usually ride. I expected the tyres to make it feel similar in that respect, but even with them soft it shakes me around quite a bit, and felt quite sluggish changing lines at speed or getting up onto little wall rides. I'm not a particularly rad or capable rider, but it felt like I was asking the bike to do stuff it wasn't really designed for, i.e. it's a decent bike but not suited to my riding. In terms of grip, probably doesn't help that it has California-spec tyres 🙂
I'm struck by the resemblance with this .... 😉
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I have had one for about 4 months now.
Can't agree about it harsh on the descents. I also have a Trek FUEL 9.8 650b full suspension bike.
The Fuel does feel more comfortable, but on all the local Afan descents , the Stache 9 is my fastest bike consistently (I'm no hero by the way).
But it is quicker downhill for me.
Climbing is in the more touring mode of sitting back and enjoying the climb, and occasionally it can be a little awkward.
Nevertheless, I like it a lot. Forks are ace.
10psi front, 12 psi rear , comfy enough .
How many 29ers have you ridden Peter?
Lots. Probably more than everyone on this thread put together and doubled. Generally I don't like them. But never say never. 🙂
It's 29" 29+ & 27.5+ no wonder the haterz on here are grinding their teeth.they are also way
Yup.
Adjustable back end fits anything really.
They all come 29x3.0 though.
Yes it is light and it rides lighter.
Bonesetter - 15.5in and 17.5in are in stock with Trek now. Other sizes first half of November.
bably more than everyone on this thread put together and doubled. Generally I don't like them. But never say never.
What is it that you don't like about them?
Trusty-get hold of Biff. He has two Jones+ for demos. One's gone away for a few days demo but it'll be back soon. The more normal one should be available which is good for 6'2/3".
What is it that you don't like about them?
Lots of things, depending on the bike. Treks generally don't fit me. Too short for the stand over, for instance. But generally they just feel a bit sluggish. The bars are generally too low for me too. Not always but mostly.
Now, remember, I've been riding a looooong time, on and off, and to this day I've never found a bike I like more than a 91-95 steel Kona. I love the quick handling and the immediacy of them. Think about a corner and you're round it. Fast verging on twitchy. That's how I like it. A longer slacker bike is great downhill (like my Pitch) and bigger wheels might well be 'faster'.... But I'm no racer. I don't really care about what's better, just what I find fun. It took me a long while (10 rides +) to 'get' my fat bike and I still find it quite hard work, but it raises a smile and cost me buttons so that's fine.
I'll never ditch 26in totally but that Stache is quite some bike.
4 of us have ridden it today. 3 of us want one. It is that good.
Other than the (relatively new at the time) sloping TT. Steel Konas from 81-95 were fairly unremarkable bikes in almost every way. (yes. I have owned and ridden quite a few)
As far as I can work out Plus tyres seem to be for riders who never get dynamic on their bikes. You know, folk who just sit there pedalling away and control direction with their arms instead of using their entire body.
Glad 3 of you managed to find each other though. That must've been emotional.
As far as I can work out Plus tyres seem to be for riders who never get dynamic on their bikes. You know, folk who just sit there pedalling away and control direction with their arms instead of using their entire body.
I can verify that PeterP is not one of those. He knows his onions and what he likes and what he doesnt like.
Complete stranger rides ugly new bicycle up a hill outside his work.
posts on the internet that it's amazeballs.
His mate verifies stranger knows about onions.
Well I for one am sold.
I rode one up a hill, it was slowish. They must be rubbish. The person that had hired it was glad to be on my bike instead.
Looks effing ace to me 😀
As far as I can work out Plus tyres seem to be for riders who never get dynamic on their bikes. You know, folk who just sit there pedalling away and control direction with their arms instead of using their entire body.
No
Complete stranger rides ugly new bicycle up a hill outside his work.
posts on the internet that it's amazeballs.
His mate verifies stranger knows about onions.
Well I for one am sold.
While another complete stranger, who hasn't even ridden said bike, deduces it must be rubbish because he's decided he doesn't like the tyre size.
followed up shortly by another stranger to make even more unfounded assumptions.
the plot thickens.
Quite a dull read but it's still early days yet.
Helpful1 defying his username 🙂
As far as I can work out Plus tyres seem to be for riders who never get dynamic on their bikes. You know, folk who just sit there pedalling away and control direction with their arms instead of using their entire body.
Quite the opposite in my experience, particularly if you're on a fully rigid 29+.
I like it. Til recently we were falling into the sports motorcycle trap where all the bikes looked and performed the same.
At least we are getting some variety now. Different is good.
Well I have owned and ridden mine for the last 4 months, so I suppose I must have a good idea.
The forks are ace.
XT brakes - spot on
Sram 1 x 11 - works very well.
Frame design is good, Trek just didn't throw a pair of 29+ wheels and tyres on an existing bike, they redesigned it.
Bottom bracket wasn't great - now replaced with a Chris King.
Climbing, probably won't get you KOM on Strava although I'm sure some riders will go much faster than me uphill, but I'm not a racer.
Very comfortable for a hardtail, just need to go tubeless to allow the very low pressures from the wide rims and big tyres.
Trail and downhill , very good, confident, loads of front end grip.
Its a good if not very good trail bike.
I like it alot, there are loads of good bikes out there, but this one suits me down to the ground.
Ultimately a number of factors influence your opinions on any bike.
What you want from a bike.
How you ride.
Where you ride etc.
Regards
Denis
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Complete stranger rides ugly new bicycle up a hill outside his work.
posts on the internet that it's amazeballs.
His mate verifies stranger knows about onions.
Well I for one am sold.POSTED 4 DAYS AGO # REPORT-POST
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I rode one up a hill, it was slowish. They must be rubbish. The person that had hired it was glad to be on my bike instead.
Someone who shall remain nameless but, err, manufactures and designs bike parts at the very least came in and looked at said Satche
He picked it to bits on sight. It was all wrong apparently.
So we got him to ride it and he was amazed too, so he wants one. You gotta ride it. It's not what you expect.
As far as I can work out Plus tyres seem to be for riders who never get dynamic on their bikes. You know, folk who just sit there pedalling away and control direction with their arms instead of using their entire body.
Not me riding but this is the actual bike I PDId and rode, the day after I posted this thread:
I can verify that PeterP is not one of those. He knows his onions and what he likes and what he doesnt like.
Thanks for the compliment 🙂
I'm not one that pores over geometry sheets and dismisses or raves about a bike based on the head angle. Tbh I couldn't tell you what most of the numbers are on any of my bikes. I just ride 'em. If I like them I buy one. Too many people put too much thought into bikes IMO, forming opinions based on brand a couple of numbers or what rear mech is dangling off it.
a tweaked turnbar? 😯
UR BIK MUS B AWESUM.
As far as I can work out Plus tyres seem to be for riders who never get dynamic on their bikes. You know, folk who just sit there pedalling away and control direction with their arms instead of using their entire body.
Hmmm, stereotype much?
Heh... 🙂
Who is helpful1 and have they ever been humiliated by a trek, a 29er or PP??
I'm gonna put teh kettle on, I've got some double choc chip chick pea and quinoa cookies in the kitchen that have almost cooled down enough to eat
steel Konas from 81-95 were fairly unremarkable bikes in almost every way. (yes. I have owned and ridden quite a few)
Heresy! Honest question though. If you were not convinced, why own more than one...?
29+(F ) / b+ (R) here.
It's a right laugh.
1. it was '81-95.
2. I've owned over 150 bikes since then and ridden thousands. lots were unremarkable.
sorry if this upsets you.
So. Anyway. I've bought a Stache 9. I'll ride the long off-road route to work in the morning I think!
I've never had a Trek mountain bike before. 🙂
Pics?
I was thinking of a Stache 5, but was wondering what happens if you decide you need suss forks? Can you buy funny g2 geometry forks aftermarket? Does the bike catch fire, or dissolve if you use normal forks?
theres is only the manitooos at the moment that take the tyre size no?
Blatant on mtbr has fitted sus forks on the 5 and is well happy
Bonesetter, just look at the Trek website! It's bog stock standard and fresh out of the box save for Specualized Bennies pedals which I already had. 🙂
I'll ride it the long, off-road route to work in the morning but I've played around a bit with the forks and general set up. Never had Manitou forks of any sort before and initial testing is very favourable indeed.
OK
Give us the gush after your ride 🙂
steel Konas from 81-95 were fairly unremarkable bikes in almost every way. (yes. I have owned and ridden quite a few)
Hmm,I can only remember them from 88.
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steel Konas from 81-95 were fairly unremarkable bikes in almost every way. (yes. I have owned and ridden quite a few)
Hmm,I can only remember them from 88.
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sorry if this upsets you.
Of course it doesn't. Why would it? It's your opinion and you are entitled to one...
Does anyone know where they have a stache 5 in a size large that I can go along and sling my leg over? I want one, but need to try it for size
I must admit I was finger banging one at Wheelbase a couple of weeks ago ,, I liked
Tried one at coed y brenin this weekend- not sure what I expected but I was grinning like an idiot. Rides nimble,fast and insane levels of grip. Contrary to suggestions, if you really puah hard and chuck the thing around it basically gets faster until eventually you cant keep up.
I am currently very tempted!
I'm seriously looking at the 7. It seems to tick a lot of boxes for me as a playful 29er.
I've just taken the plunge and ordered a stache 5 in 19.5" flavour......hope it fits!
Looking at what Ittle there is on the webz, I think I'll be fine with the 19.5", but you never know until you can actually ride one.....apparently, there were only going to be 5 arriving for general sale.......so that's 4 now!
I have the Stache 9 , 5 10 tall, 32 inside leg.
Riding a 19.5 inch frame
Regards
Denis
eekend- not sure what I expected but I was grinning like an idiot. Rides nimble,fast and insane levels of grip. Contrary to suggestions, if you really puah hard and chuck the thing around it basically gets faster until eventually you cant keep up.
I've done 3 rides on mine now and that's it in a nutshell really. It turns in really well and holds a line beautifully. The faster you go and the more you work it, the better it gets. It's not a slow plodder that's for sure.
I've gone tubeless as well. The rims already have tape on them and valves are supplied, so why not? That's made a noticeable difference, as you would imagine loosing 5-600g of your wheels would do!
Mine weighs under 28.5lb with pedals (Specialized Bennies) so it's not a heavy bike at all.
I've played with the fork a bit too. It's got adjustable air chamber volume (ie Spring rate adjust) and I've made mine one step more linear which makes the fork a bit more active. It's a bloody good fork actually.
Ohh, make sure the dealer gives you the included Bontrager 4mm torque tool. Lots of high end Treks are supplied with them, as is the Stache 9.
Steel Konas from 81-95 were fairly unremarkable bikes in almost every way.
Dunno though. Those '82 Explosifs with the lugged 531 frames were pretty rad for their time.
Ohh ek, I like these things. Now for me to say that must mean I'm turning all funny inside or my left brain isn't working. This is wholly due to the fact that anything "fat" related gives me a case of the heavies and I don't like heavy bikes at all.
However..
Bespoke in Canary Wharf have a black and lime green one sitting in the window. I went in yesterday to get a book signed by an ex roadie( name?, not giving that away) and this bike was just sitting there and it was tempting me to go ride it.. it looks that good.
Still not going to buy one, shame but really don't have anywhere I could possibly use it.. but this bike has certainly turned my eyes towards fatties.
8)
I went in yesterday to get a book signed by an ex roadie( name?, not giving that away)
My (roadie) son went to a talk and asked the man to sign a copy for my Xmas pressie. 8) One happy Mummy. 😀
You tease, bikebouy.
Why so coy when "canary wharf book signing cycle" gets you there so quickly? It was too quick to even be fun!
You'd just call him a nasty word and I don't like nasty words 😆
From memory, when he's been discussed the response on here was mixed, some were particularly vitriolic though. 😐
Funnily enough, we raced back from Cannock last Saturday to our local bike shop (Cotswold Cycles in Moreton in Marsh) to get a book signed and listen to 'The Racer'. We also returned the Trek Stache 9 that we had out on demo - it was a good day really, the Stache was great and the talk/book signing was good.
So if you want see or Demo a Stache 9 then head to my local bike shop!
We've got a demo model in too. Stache 9, same as mine 17.5in frame. Dunno of I'm allowed to put the name of the shop here but my email is in my profile.
Awesome bike, really impressed everyone that rode it, I think I'm hoping that Trek will do a 29+ Remedy next year.....
Do we know any english people who have ridden/tested the 5 though?
Peterpoddy, does the stache 5 come with the bontrager torque key? Got one on order.
The 5' are now in stock at Trek HQ
That 9 I spotted last week costs £2700...
Hmm.. Nice'n'all but...
Do you know what size 5's are in stock?
I'll ring tomorrow if not
I don't know what sizes are in stock
Let us know if I find out
All 5's in stock except the 19.5" currently
Bugger....guess which one I'm waiting on!
Ah well, cheers for the update
That 9 I spotted last week costs £2700...Hmm.. Nice'n'all but...
It's not cheap, no, but break it down a bit:
£700 groupset
£750 fork
£650+ wheel set including tyres (Just add sealant to go tubeless)
£200 brakes
£230 bars, stem, saddle
£240 dropper post
Oh, it's also pretty light for such a bike. Mine is 28 1/4lb after tubeless conversion, including flat pedals
OK
We need 5 ride reports
Just spoke to a nice bloke at trek, and he says the date for the 19" is still looking good for the 2nd of November, but South downs have got a 19" going their way.....someone needs to write a report!
I'm v excited :0)