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Quick blast and all good 😀
Proper ride on Sunday I can't wait..
31.4lbs as pictured
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Reckon once I set up tubeless fit new bars be closer to 30lb ..
Feels solid and well put together and rolls nicely ..
Any news on base tunes Brant ?
The stock set up is'nt a million miles away. bit too lively so upped the lsr and tbh it pedals so well you can back the lsc off quite a bit. Will give it a kicking tonight on a couple of DH tracks to set the high speed stuff. Got a float to try as we'll.
By the stock setup rorschach, do you mean as the shock came or the setup on the card for the el guapo 29? What amount if sag are you running?
[b]plus one[/b], is that a Med, and how tall are you? Am 6' but with short legs/long body and toying with the idea of one of these (or maybe the Codeine 650B when it's announced) but it looks properly short. Reach is 40mm shorter than my current medium Pitch, which feels short enough as it is. Don't have the leg length for a Large!
Rorschach... Be good to hear what settings you end up with... I just set mine up as per El guapo base tune I'm not really a knob twiddler 😆
I'd rather just get a happy medium with settings and leave it 🙂
I'm 5"11 66 kgs
Yes Medium.. I'm all legs with shorter torso.. Feels bang on for me.. Guess you could try a longer stem ?
Whereabouts are you ?
@idiotdogbrain, I have a medium, I'm 6ft with short legs but long body so I had mine with a 70mm stem fitted which is a nice happy medium I think. Tried a shorter stem in the past on bikes and found them just to "twitchy" Or maybe it's because i'm old and my reactions are getting slower 😀 Been out on mine today and can confirm that the saddle is awful 🙁 The good news is the est of the bike puts a massive smile on your face, it's ace.
Who's 'she'?
The one I ride 😉
gamerriley - MemberWho's 'she'?
The one I ride
^ smurfette ^ 😆
Something that I've just noticed, if you look at the on one website at the codeine it is shown with a X01 crankset, but the bike I got gets the cheaper and heavier X1 crankset... So I had a look at the original order that was sent through from planet x and it doesn't even state the crankset or type. Only when they send me through the order again at a later date does it specify X1. Checking the spec on the website also states X1, but that could have been changed last week for all I know. Have on one been a bit cheeky here and showing us a bike that we don't fully get? Thoughts? Brant?
The poster on the first page of this thread that states a spec shows as the X01 groupset, I'd presume that to mean it should have the X01 cranks too.
The poster on the first page of this thread that states a spec shows as the X01 groupset, I'd presume that to mean it should have the X01 cranks too.
Yep that poster shows the XO1 crankset being advertised, but the bike you get comes with the money saving but heavier X1 crankset. I think there's a case here.
From the website,
"A flagship frame like this needs a partner in crime, and we’re not settling for anything less than [b]SRAM X01 1x11 transmission[/b]. The Codeine doesn’t run a front mech, why? Because we didn’t want it to. Instead we focus on the innovations that have transpired recently in chainguide-free, one-up-front gearing. That’s where [b]SRAM and X01[/b] come into things, it’s about as simple as performance gearing gets, and exactly what you need on the trails, with a ratio that can climb walls and enough top-end bite to propel you through and beyond any line"
Seems like you have settled for something less, X1
Spec list has shown X1 crankset each time I've looked at it - I'm guessing there's a significant cost saving for the 150g weight gain.
The spec on the website has always been X1.
I'm sorry if anyone feels deceived.
The cheeky buggers !!!! I never even noticed !!! I was wooed by the bright lights and razzmatazz 🙁
That 150g will get mine under 30lb make it happen Brant 😆
If you look on the first page of this thread I queried whether or not you got what was advertised on the photo a few posts above mine. That clearly shows X01 groupset.
Why all of a sudden does X1 come as X01?
Deceived is not what I would call it. I specifically asked a question and got a direct answer. That answer was incorrect and people placed orders based on incorrect information
Its funny, the first couple of pages were asking if the spec was correct for the price but it obviously wasnt. Sure Brant posted a spec list on page 2 but apparently page 2 has malware so my browser wont open it, peculiar.
Though (just thinking out loud) was X1 released when the Codine ad came out? could it be they knew it was getting X1 but couldnt show it until it was released?
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(I got one.It's a bit good.)
Spec list posted by branton page 2 states X01 chainset, I don't own a Codeine by the way. My 456 is just fine!
You can dress that up any way you like and even with a legal small print get out people have been deceived. If I'd bought one it would leave a sour taste.
Nice bit of kit, wants!
from page 2 of thread
Brant - Member
On-One Codeine 29er Frame
Rockshox Pike RCT3 140mm Solo Air / Tapered / 29 Inch with 15mm Axle / Diffusion Black / Crown Adjust
Cane Creek Double Barrel Air / Black / 190mm / 50mm / 22.0mm Front 22.4mm Rear x 8mm
Rockshox Rear Maxle Lite / 142mm x 12mm / Black
On-One Smoothie Mixer Tapered Headset 1 1/8 inch - 1.5 inch / Black / Mix Tapered
On-One TECH Series CNC Quick Release Seatclamp / 34.9 mm / Black
On-One Spacer Set 20+15+10+5 / 1 1/8 inch / Black
Groupset
SRAM X01Chainset / 170mm / 30T / Black-GXP
SRAM X01 Rear Mech / 11 Speed / Black
SRAM X01 Cassette / 11 Speed / 10-42T
SRAM X0 Trigger Shifter / 11 Speed / Right Hand / Black
SRAM XX1 11 Speed Chain / 118 Links
Avid X0 Trail Brakes / Front / 900mm / 20 Post To Post / Black
Avid X0 Trail Brakes / Rear / 1800mm / 20 Post To IS / Black
Avid HS1 Rotor / 160mm / 6 Bolt
Avid HS1 Rotor / 180mm / 6 Bolt
Avid MMX Matchmaker Clamp / Left
Avid MMX Matchmaker Clamp / Right
Finishing Kit
El Guapo Corto Stem / 35mm / Black
El Guapo Ancho Flat Handlebars / 760mm / Black /
Rockshox Reverb 125mm Drop Seatpost / 31.6mm / 420mm / Black / Left 1500mm
Planet X Sportive Ultra Saddle / CroMo Rail / Black and Grey
On-One Half Bob Lock-On Grips / Black
Wheelset
Pacenti TL28 Rim / 29 Inch / 28mm / 32 Hole
Pacenti TL28 Rim / 29 Inch / 28mm / 32 Hole
SRAM X0 Hub / Front / 15mm Axle / Black and Red / Without Axle
SRAM X0 Hub / Rear / 12mm Axle / Black and Red / Without Axle
On-One 29" MTB Inner Tube / 2.1-2.2 / Presta / 40mm
On-One 29" MTB Inner Tube / 2.1-2.2 / Presta / 40mm
On-One Chunky Monkey 29"x2.4" Tyre / Enduro / Folding Bead / Single 50a / Black
On-One Smorgasbord 29"x2.25" Tyre / Trail Extreme / Folding Bead / Dual 60/42a / BlackPosted 2 months ago # Report-Post
in response to repeated "can you confirm spec" posts from iolo.
Some of you have far too much time on your hands.
It's an advertising photo. Just like almost every other advertising photo be it bike/car etc, they show it with the bestestest stuff/top spec. Buyer beware, don't assume. It's still great value.
Plus one, how was your first spin? Really tempted by this bike.
Some of you have far too much time on your hands.
When you've just spent £2500 of your hard earned money on a bike that was stated as having X01 groupset you've got all the time in the world. It's a shame that the people who pre-ordered the bike, that never had a chance to look at the bike other than the pictures on the on one website, and have questioned the spec on here, are being dooped. As I said, my original order came through with no crankset, so with what had been answered on here (see above) and the pictures on the site, I assumed X0, like everybody else. 😥
BTW, I called on one/Planet X yesterday....awaiting their response today.
I was quite amazed they could supply the bike as shown in the advertising photo for that price. I asked not once but several times if the X0 spec bike shown would be the one supplied for £2499. The answer was yes and a spec list was even provided clearly detailing what cranks were included in the build.
Check the next big thing as their next bike will be advertised with full xtr on the billboard pictures and cone with Alivio.
You should probably return the bikes. Just tell them Pikes, Reverb, CCDB, and most of an X01 groupset is all well and good but the crank was a dealbreaker.
Buyer beware, don't assume.
They didnt, they asked the designer of the bike and he confirmed it.
Some of you have far too much time on your hands.
Youre posting on an internet forum during office hours.
I'm posting whilst having a poo (Ill Instagram it later) at work.
You should probably return the bikes. Just tell them Pikes, Reverb, CCDB, and most of an X01 groupset is all well and good but the crank was a dealbreaker.
You never bought one then?
Or maybe you could get the guy on here and call him a conman a few more times because he gave you his best guess on something two months ago.
brant - Member
The spec on the website has always been X1.
I'm sorry if anyone feels deceived.
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repeating it doesnt make it a better answer. The photo showed it with X01, potential buyers asked if that was the case, and you posted the spec list which showed X01.
A simple explanation (we couldnt get it in at that price with X01 etc) might appease disgruntled purchasers. What alternative did you have - lose the Reverb, swap the CCDB for a lower spec shock? Most people appreciate that P-X/O-O offer bargains and tend to be "up front" with their customer base. The crank downgrade wouldnt put me off buying it if I was in the market, but if I'd received it specced differently it might sour the new-bike-purchase experience.
Spec on website is X1. Doesnt really matter what the picture is to be honest as I bet the T&C's relate to the written spec when you press the order button.
Give them a break, its a cracking deal as it and Im now even warming to the colour blue...which I never thought I would.
Spec on website is X1. Doesnt really matter what the picture is to be honest as I bet the T&C's relate to the written spec when you press the order button.
As said though, people specifically asked, and were told it was X01, it's not just the picture. I agree with CTM.
Misrepresentation Act 1967.
Bang to rights. It a shame we don't have class actions in the UK.
Brant also needs to apologize to every website that has previewed their bike and stated X01 groupset which made everybody think that meant crankset too. What components actually make up the groupset then?
[Plus one, how was your first spin? Really tempted by this bike]
Just in from a 2hr blast and can honestly say I've never grinned as much on a bike ever !!! It climbs really really well and despite the heft once rolling it was not an issue(it's clearly not an xc bike) had those 🙂
For it's intended purpose it is simply stunning and very playful...
After today's ride I really couldn't give a monkeys on the XO/1 crank debate ... It's clearly X1 on website and Brant I feel being ever helpful and trying to appease everyone made a slight error listing spec.. Big deal !!!
It's a killer bike at a killer price and runs rings round competition for value..
Cheers Brant/On One you've made my year 😀
^ Glad its made you smile, it does look cracking
For those getting wound up by X1 vs XO1 debate, its Friday take a pill..preferably a Codiene....:)
\if I'd ordered nased on the spec provided, had asked if the crank was X01, and had that confirmed - then I'd be expecting an X01 crank.
But you did'nt you won't 🙄
I don't want people to think i'm getting wound up about this, i love this bike and have been a fan of on one for many years. I've only ridden it once and it put a huge smile on my face. It's also the first bike I've owned with wagon wheels and a component spec like this, so all this X1, X01 and XX1 is all new to me. I'm sure if people knew what they were getting they would still have purchased this bike, it's a great spec for the money. I don't want to give my bike back, as I can see people saying that, "if you're not happy send it back for a refund....blah,blah,blah"
No...I'm very happy with it, love it in fact, and still love on one. But when it comes down to it on one are a business, and being in business myself we all need to make and save money wherever possible. What I don't like though, and this is not just on one, is when businesses or companies try to deceive, misrepresent, delude,... call it what you will, you into believing something that you will not get. Most people would have heard of The Sales of Goods Act, it is there to protect everybody who enters into a contract with a trader. The main points of this act to note are that:
1. The items must be of satisfactory quality.
2. Do as they are intended or designed.
3. (most important) Be as described, matching any pictures or descriptions of them.
4. Be safe.
So number 3, as described and matching pictures. Well clearly the picture is of an X0 crank, not X1. and the description in the bullet points states "SRAM X01 1x11 transmission" In the detail the description is as follows "A flagship frame like this needs a partner in crime, and we’re not settling for anything less than SRAM X01 1x11 transmission"
Again I want to make perfectly clear that I love the bike and would have purchased it anyway. But when you've been shown and read what you could have had, deep down it makes you feel a little short changed. Being in business i'm constantly telling myself that the customer is always right and that customer is king. Spending a little here could have huge returns in customers later. I'm sure that Brant and the guys at on one will look into this and do the right thing, not just for on one but for their loyal customer base who purchase their bikes without even seeing one. For now the ball is in their court.
So what did it say on the website when you ordered the bike from the website?
So what did it say on the website when you ordered the bike from the website?
It said what I've written, and when I got my order confirmation on the 4th April it never mentioned any crank set. So with that in mind wouldn't you think you were getting what is pictured and described as an SRAM X01 transmission?
Original order emailed from on one, no mention of X1 crank or X01 Crank...Shit I shouldn't even have a crank...winner!!
Stock Code Item Qty
CBOOCODX01 On-One Codeine 29 Sram X01 Mountain Bike 1
HSOOSPACER-118-BLK On-One Spacer Set 20+15+10+5 / 1 1/8 inch / Black 1
SCOOFOR-349 On-One 6061T6 Forged Alloy Seatclamp Bolt Up / 34.9 mm 1
BSAVOLIVE-1 Avid Compression Hose Fitting / Single 2
BSAVBARB-1 Avid Threaded Barb / Single 2
BSAVOEMHS1-160-6B Avid HS1 Rotor / 160mm / 6 Bolt 1
BSAVOEMHS1-180-6B Avid HS1 Rotor / 180mm / 6 Bolt 1
HSOOSMCROW On-One Smoothie Mixer Stainless Steel Crown Race For 1.5 inch Steerer 1
BRAVOEMXO-FR-900-20PTP-BLK Avid X0 Trail Brakes Front 900mm 20 Post To Post Black BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
BRAVOEMXO-RE-1800-20PIS-BLK Avid X0 Trail Brakes Rear 1800mm 20 Post To IS Black BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
CASROEMX01-11-1042 SRAM X01 Cassette 11 Speed 10-42T BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
CHSROEMXX-118 SRAM XX1 11 Speed Chain 118 Links BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
FORSPI13R314-TAP-2915-BLK-CRN Rockshox Pike RCT3 140mm Solo Air Tapered 29 Inch with 15mm Axle Black Crown Adjust BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
RSCCDBAIR-BLK-190-50-220-224x8 Cane Creek Double Barrel Air Rear Shock For El Guapo 29er / Black / 190mm / 50mm / 22.0mm Front 22.4mm Rear x 8mm 1
BTOOFLOG-BLK On-One Half Bob Lock-On Foam Grips Black BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
HBELGUANB-760-BLK-318 El Guapo Ancho B Handlebar 760mm Black 31.8mm Clamp BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
BUPEDALS No Pedals Thanks BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
RMSROEMX01-11-BLK SRAM X01 Rear Mech 11 Speed Black BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
SAPXSPU-CRM-BGR Planet X Sportive Ultra Saddle CroMo Rail Black and Grey BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
GLSROEMX0-11-RH-BLK SRAM X0 Trigger Shifter 11 Speed Right Hand Black BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
STOOCNC-80-BLK-318 On-One Ultralight CNC Stem 80 mm Black 31.8 mm Clamp BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
TYOOCM29X24-END-FOL-SIN-BLK On-One Chunky Monkey 29x2.4 Tyre Enduro Folding Bead Single 50a Black BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
TYOOSM29X225-TRE-FOL-DUO-BLK On-One Smorgasbord 29x2.25 Tyre Trail Extreme Folding Bead Dual 6042a Black BIKE BUILD [CBOOCODX01] 1
Say BMW were to produce a new car. There's a big media campaign showing a v12 engine. It would say price from £70,000. You ask them to confirm this price and spec. The lead design engineer does this so you place your order.
A car with a V10 turns up as they've changed the spec since your order and they're not going to do anything about it.
Would some of you guys still be so defensive of BMW ?
BMW has a ticky box for the engine choice.
A different engine materially affects what the car is. I could understand the furore if it was a different rear shock or forks - something that would significantly affect how the bike rides - but a slightly downgraded chainset? Boo freakin' hoo.
"Oh woe is me, my two and a half thousand pound bicycle comes with a slightly lower specification part than I had anticipated, that in no way whatsoever affects its use."
First world problems, eh..? The Codeine is already a bargain for the spec, forget about it and just ride it! 😉
A different engine materially affects what the car is. I could understand the furore if it was a different rear shock or forks - something that would significantly affect how the bike rides - but a slightly downgraded chainset? Boo freakin' hoo."Oh woe is me, my two and a half thousand pound bicycle comes with a slightly lower specification part than I had anticipated, that in no way whatsoever affects its use."
How about leather seats for the car analogy then? Doesn't materially affect anything, just a bit nicer. You're told it has leather seats, it shows leather seats. You get cloth.
It's fairly immaterial, as the only people who find it poor form are those who've not bought the bike, but it kinda epitomises On One's customer service for me!
Never got a phone call back from on one. Make of that as you will.
'kinda epitomises On One's customer service'
Really? you must know a different Brant to everyone who frequents these boards then. He bends over backwards to ensure everyone is happy.
Brant is trying his best to help but why should he? He designs bikes FFS.
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Has anyone gone tubeless? Just done mine and my cassette and xd body fell of the hub. Tried to undo the cassette but it's just spinning on the xd body. Looks like another phone call.
Yes I went tubeless .. Impressed how easy they were to set up 🙂
Cassette/hub all fine ..
Brant is trying his best to help but why should he? He designs bikes FFS.
1) I don't hold brant responsible, he designs bikes, although he speaks as the authority of the company here
2) how's he trying to help? His response was very laissez faire, and his comeback when pointed out he himself clarified the spec was to repost the same message. He doesn't have to do anything, and he's not.
Really? you must know a different Brant to everyone who frequents these boards then. He bends over backwards to ensure everyone is happy.
He does periodically appease some disgruntled customers yes. Sometimes in an impressive manner. There are plenty of threads with folk needing appeasing. It's no secret that their general customer service attitude isn't exactly exemplary.
Anywho, this is dangerously close to becoming an OO/PX slanging match, and I'm not interested in that. OO/PX do some stunning value bikes, and minor spec changes don't really change that. Doesn't mean it's not a bit shit though.
If you build a bike for STW demographic and do your marketing through the forum, then you have to expect everything that entails.
And now for something completely different...
I put all the pieces together, except for a seat clamp (stupid me - bought 31.8mm). A moment of truth for the chaining - I think any ring smaller than 28T would not fly at all, since it would cause the chain to rub/sit on a chainstay on lowest gear settings. I've got 30T installed and it's just half a centimeter above chainstay if I drop to smallest rear cog.
Is this the same for you or did I make something weirdly wrong? Not that I have to run 28T, just wanted to have as a backup option.
I put all the pieces together, except for a seat clamp (stupid me - bought 31.8mm). A moment of truth for the chaining - I think any ring smaller than 28T would not fly at all, since it would cause the chain to rub/sit on a chainstay on lowest gear settings. I've got 30T installed and it's just half a centimeter above chainstay if I drop to smallest rear cog.
Is this the same for you or did I make something weirdly wrong? Not that I have to run 28T, just wanted to have as a backup option.
What chainring smaller than 28t is available?
The chainstay "drop" is biased inline rather than super dropped to keep back end stiffness high.
More drop is more flex.
I think the stiffness goals were achieved from reports and our measurements.
Sorry - wanted to say "anything smaller than 30T" (which is 28T for example).
Been thinking about this.
If I had ordered the full build (which I didn't) I'd be a bit annoyed about X01. The new MBR advertises it as a x01 transmission. However the X1 cranks are absolutely fine. Packet of crisps difference? You don't buy this bike for its weight... Stonkingly good value for money. Everything is X01 bar cranks.
If you're that upset send it back.
However I bought the frame (shock not installed?) and think it's absolutely amazing.
Here it is having a rest up Minch Moor.
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Longest ride I've done on it is 60k so far on a mix of natural/trail centre Tweed Valley, pedals efficiently enough. Brilliant bike.
Anyone know the frame weight? I don't expect it to be light, just curious to compare it against other sturdy 29ers.
7lb w/o shock
Thanks Brant, that's pretty decent.
Had 4hrs yesterday riding some of the proposed ews routes and the bike was superb ..
Climbed from bottom to top to do 3G twice and if you know the area it's a fair whack of climbing .. Suspension feels perfectly balanced and fork and shock are sublime .. Brakes are also top notch ..
Soaked up roots/drops with ease ..
Reckon I'll break long before bike does 😆
Couldn't have been far from you bazingaeuan ? Looks good 🙂
Cheers plus one. That's from last week. Wednesday I think!
Finished the 1st ride yesterday late evening. Amazing how much I need to learn after switching from HT to FS 🙂 but I like Codeine already. Suspension is plush, capable eating roots, forgiving on the decents and efficient on the climbs. Climbing efficiency not so much far away from my HT, 35 mm stem gives a way lot more agility comparing to HT. Pedalling efficiency is a subject for further adjustements with the seat position but generally -
- F A N T A S T I C!
Codeine Medium with a shock and headeset from OnOne weights 3959g 😀
Really interested in one of these.... it may have been said before, but a quick search hasn't yielded anything on my screen - how long is the warranty on the frame?
The blue and orange looks fantastic in the sun. Nice shot bazingaeuan.
Really interested in one of these.... it may have been said before, but a quick search hasn't yielded anything on my screen - how long is the warranty on the frame?
2yrs for manufacturing defects.
Glad people are liking the climbing efficiency. We put a lot of work into that.
Thanks Brant, going to get saving!
Seems to be a Tweed Valley thing with Codeines...
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On holiday with the family here this week. Innerleithen Red today was my first proper ride after lots of GT greens and blues with the kids. On Strava, on the Codeine (full build from Planet X), I knocked chunks off my previous personal bests (set on my 26er Trek Fuel EX) on the downs - and uphill, too.
The bike is giving me confidence to hit stuff harder and faster, with amazing control and grip. And despite monster trucking through the rough, it's playful and agile; easier to get into the air than my Trek, nimble fast and slow, and just a lot of big-grin fun.
Thanks very much Brant and On One.
Brant: can you confirm what's happening with new stock of frames please. I ordered and paid for a medium white one on Sunday in store and were told they were landing in the country this week for delivery to me next week. I've checked the stock availability on the website and it seems all over the place: changing from out of stock to due in mid August and back again.
Brant: can you confirm what's happening with new stock of frames please. I ordered and paid for a medium white one on Sunday in store and were told they were landing in the country this week for delivery to me next week. I've checked the stock availability on the website and it seems all over the place: changing from out of stock to due in mid August and back again.
Medium white frames due in today as far s I know. We just had a container land, and our team are unpacking it.
If you want to email me your sales order number I will look into this for you.