[Closed] Singletrack Decide Not To Cover the Danny MacAskill Playboy Video

nice one STW, premier subscription purchased.

I am pissing in the pool as we speak.

..and given the amount of sharting at work threads, I imagine there might be a few UFOs* in here as well.

*Unidentified Floating Objects.

😯

You're taking Youtube comments as an endorsement?

Jesus H Corbett!

I can't think of any social group more deserving of my contempt than the people who comment on Youtube videos. They only do it as everyone needs a break from furious self-abuse from time to time, and commenting on Youtube means they don't have to do anything as taxing as leaving their sweaty chair, as they sit surrounded by soggy Kleenex and an atmosphere thick with self-loathing

When the crushing desperation your excuse for a life has become means you resort to that, then you may as well just end it all, as your pathetic, worthless existence will only lead to disappointment. Both for yourself, but mainly for everyone who has the misfortune to ever encounter you

Wheres this hedge everyone seems to know about ?

Wheres this hedge everyone seems to know about ?

Outside Hora's house.

The only thing about the Danny Makaskill does Playboy vid that harked back to the eighties was the idea that a one piece swimsuit or little shorts is "scantily clad". There's as much flesh on display in the local park on a sunny lunchtime, and outside most Newcastle clubs in January at 2pm (though when it's warm they wear less). And everyone loved the original roadbike party vid despite the gratuitous bike cleaning scene. (Alhough some folk moaned about using gt85.) That said there's no reason a MTB site has to feature a trials riding vid, trials is a bit like BMX after all, and BMX is a bit eighties. Oh, was THAT the real issue..?

No. STW thought they heard a bandwagon and hurled themselves out the window hoping to land on it.

Yawn

[i]outside most Newcastle clubs in January at 2pm[/i]

You should pitch this to Redbull as an idea for the next Danny Mac vid.
(Presuming you mean 2am)

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Ok, some hate it due to whatever reason, some love it due to whatever reason and some really some don't care either way.
Surely that's the conclusion of both these long winded threads.
Mods. Shut it now before we get to page 14 of mindless squawking.

@binners

The Fat Slags are virtually Victorian in their attire compared to I remember when this was all fields.

so STW won't show the vid but they will advertise the fact that they wont thus actually promoting the vid??? plus they will post such utter drivel as the vain Vagrant which is nothing more than a advert for various companies. amazing editoral work that is.

I am pissing in the pool as we speak.

..and given the amount of sharting at work threads, I imagine there might be a few UFOs* in here as well.

*Unidentified Floating Objects.

Campylobacter it turns out, which to be honest produce outputs more akin to ghostbusters style slime than identifiable "objects"

poah - Member

so STW won't show the vid but they will advertise the fact that they wont thus actually promoting the vid??? plus they will post such utter drivel as the vain Vagrant which is nothing more than a advert for various companies. amazing editoral work that is.
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Well done STW

It is hilarious that people are getting all wound up about STW's stance.

Aren't these the same people who moan on about PC gone mad and the 'professionally offended', but now they are offended that STW chose not to cover a shit video? 😕

Yep the ironing is delicious

they are offended that STW chose not to cover a shit video?

I think you'll find that STW has covered it quite comprehensively.

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I am happy to support STW's stance on this issue.

I found the vain vagrant video offensive because it was shit , scantily clad women aside Danny's poorest video still had more appropriate content.

Woe betide I look at women my time is better wasted watching close ups off cooperate logos.

It's 2014 folks, stop finding women attractive you bunch of weirdos, or it's chemical castration before your next allowed to log on.

It's 2014 folks, stop finding women attractive you bunch of weirdos

Because those are the only possible options: be a proper man and treat women like objects or go gay.

The number of replies in this thread that seem to indicate that people think that others object to the video because it's got ladies not wearing many clothes in it is staggering.

If i want to look at ladies in various degrees of undress that's my prerogative.
And I can do that and still treat women with respect .

I would rather have a subscription to playboy than be a judgmental numpty .

I hope none of you prudes ride oranges as in the video I saw of their factory , the workers had pictures of nudey ladies on the wall.

Maybe singletrack should make a public announcement and boycott them.

chip - Member

If i want to look at ladies in various degrees of undress that's my prerogative.

No-one's stopping you treacle.

You really don't get it do you chip?

No one is shocked, or incensed, or deeply offended at the video.

There are no sensitive prudes hiding their eyes.

Some folk are just a bit disappointed that Danny, who seems like a genuinely all round nice bloke in everything else I've seen him in, would go down the tacky casual sexism route so readily.

Some folk are just a bit disappointed that Danny, who seems like a genuinely all round nice bloke in everything else I've seen him in, would go down the tacky casual sexism route so readily.

So are we finished now? Can we close the thread and stop any more on it appearing? Please?

let's all srart swearing so the mods shut it

***ts, **m, **se, and so on

So are we finished now? Can we close the thread and stop any more on it appearing? Please?

You'll want to speak to Graham. He's the one who started a new thread, when there was a perfectly functioning one already in existence.

So in summary, 29ers are the best.

Caitlin Moran reckons 650b is better.

Seemed like a different topic to me: my intention was to acknowledge what STW Towers had done and show them some support in the face of the flack they are copping.

Ah well.

So in summary, 29ers are the best.

Yes that, and also "Waaaahey booooobies!"

Seemed like a different topic to me: my intention was to acknowledge what STW Towers had done and show them some support in the face of the flack they are copping.

I'm sure they appreciate your congratulatory reacharound 😛

Julie Birchill rides 29er.

Anyway, it would appear that we can surmise the following,

Cyclepassion calendar - Ladies paid to get their kit off and bikes. Absolutely fine, front page material in FGF.
Danny's latest - Ladies paid to get their kit off and bikes. OUTRAGEOUS, BAN THIS FILTH NOW!

I'm sure they appreciate your congratulatory reacharound

Jeez, jus coz they 'pulled' yer original thread the other day....

tsk, tsk.

I'm sure the STW calendar from a couple of years ago had a month with either a naked girl or two girls kissing. Can't remember exactly but there was something.

Sounds like tremendous hypocrisy?

a naked girl or two girls kissing

[url= http://thatmessengerchick.wordpress.com/2010/08/13/boycott-knog/ ]Knog advert? [/url]

You really don't get it do you chip?

Clearly thinks with his dick. 🙄

Clearly thinks with his dick.

See. That's why womens can't have nice things. They're so on course to be coarse.

Would make a sailor blush!

Jeez, jus coz they 'pulled' yer original thread the other day....

tsk, tsk.

I have cried myself to sleep ever since....I...*sniff*...excuse me!

*runs out the room crying*

[b]coarse[/b] I think you mean Jamie x 😉

OUTRAGEOUS, BAN THIS FILTH NOW!

Said absolutely no one at all.

I'm rather embarrassed by my unladylike language. 😳

Can't teach an old dog new tricks though. 😉

I'm sure the STW calendar from a couple of years ago had a month with either a naked girl or two girls kissing.

And I'm pretty sure loads of folk on here complained about it, saying it was tacky, immature, misogynistic and something they expected from MBUK not Singletrack.

So perhaps rather than being hypocritical they just accepted that criticism and learnt from it?

Clearly thinks with his dick.

Because I think it is possible to read playboy and still treat woman with respect.

And I would not judge someone for making a video at Hugh's house .

Shame , danny was such a nice boy untill he made this vid .

Cinnamon girl, I would rather share a drink and a laugh with danny than some one as judgemental as you .

Well done STW. Would have been cooler to just ignore it and not mention it but then who would have known a stance had been taken?

Shouldn't have featured the Vain Vagrant extended advertisement feature either (unless there was a fee involved)

Also, away from the morals, both films are crap.

I would not judge someone for making a video at Hugh's house .

No, you'd judge someone for thinking a video made a Hugh's house is a bit tacky.

That's much better.

Cinnamon girl, I would rather share a drink and a laugh with danny than some one as judgemental as you .

How remarkably open-minded and not at all judgmental of you.

As a Premier member, I no longer get the T-shirt ads featuring the ladies with outstanding, err, features. Are theyvstill around?

So last week we had the girls snogging in the vain vagrant but that was ok cause it was a bit beardy weirdly and arty?!!
But the big " we're not showing the DM at the mansion is banned on Stw.
I may show my age here but this reminds me of radio one DJ's back in the day deciding to ban Franky goes to Holywood relax. Sad then sad now let people decide and don't wave your we certainly won't be streaming that smut on our site flag.

No, you'd judge someone for thinking a video made a Hugh's house is a bit tacky.

No I am judging her for saying I think with my dick based on all my previous statements.

How remarkably open-minded and not at all judgmental of you.

Thank you.

chip - assume you don't have kids? There's plenty on here who do and who cycle in some form so it's highly possible that Danny Mc is a hero/has status in their eyes. Do you think said kids should watch this vid? Let's have some replies from the parents on here, why not?

My daughter has already seen it. She thought the riding wasn't up to his normal standard.

This was better

Aviemore though - hardly the Playboy mansion

Wouldn't bother me if my children saw it, it's jus bikinis, and tennis,
There's a lot worse they can stumble upon on the net.

I would not be over the moon with my daughter being a page 3 girl.
But her as an adult that I hope I had bought
up properly with open eyes to the world.
If that is what she wanted I would accept it happily if she was happy.
As she is old enough to live her own life .

If Playboy makes you think of, world renown paedophile/necrophiliac, Mr Saville, then I would love to see the mental gymnastics that got you to that conclusion.

Hi Jamie,

What I mean is that both completely gives me the creeps. It's just.... yuk and creepy. Sweaty old creeps pawing and drooling over scantily dressed women/girls. Which is a similar feeling I get when I think of Saville, before and after the news.

I don't see that as mental gymnastics. Both are creepy.

Is it Hugh's age that's the problem, if he was. 35 would that be better.

The women in his life are all adults with there own mind.
He is a man whose body has wrinkled and withered with time, not his fault, happens to everyone .
I am sure you feel the same at 87 as you do at 35.

It's just every now and then you catch sight of your self in the mirror and think I look bloody old.

So last week we had the girls snogging in the vain vagrant but that was ok cause it was a bit beardy weirdly and arty?!!

You find the two girls from Alpine Outdoors in town snogging comparable to some sort of porny glamour model sexy thing?

"porny"?

Did you actually watch the video?

some sort of porny glamour model sexy thing

Shed porn, hmmm.

Did you actually watch the video?

I'm going to guess no, but let's not have that get in the way of defending his film.

It's controversial, dontchaknow.

Anyway. This is porny:

scotroutes - Member
"porny"?
Did you actually watch the video?
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Clearly young Danny's video wasn't porny.
The look of the ladies in it were a bit porny. I thought. Anyhow.

You associate women dressed in bikinis with pornography?

scotroutes - Member
You associate women dressed in bikinis with pornography?
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I associate women dressed in bikinis frolicking in pools at the Playboy mansion, those wearing bunny girl costumes "a bit porny".

Could be worse, his bike could have been called something porny like "Blowjob". Just as well Danny's not that puerile.

Ha ha! Cove! You need to sponsor DannyMac right now 😆

The Knog calendar pic - I liked it (psst, wanna buy my copy 😉 ).
The Vain Vagrant snog - meh 😕 but the vid was reasonably entertaining.
Not at all sure where I stand as far as Danny's vid is concerned - I watched the first 45 seconds or so - couldn't be arsed with the rest - didn't evoke any 'now I'd love to ride [i](like)[/i] that' sentiments 😉

[quote=mamadirt ]Ha ha! Cove! You need to sponsor DannyMac right now

Whoosh!

Just viewed it and I don't know what all the fuss is about. A few very lame bike stunts and some brief shots of some girls in bunny girl costumes. Not porn, not shocking, not very interesting and nothing like as good as Way Back Home and his other videos. Actually I don't know what it's for really.

Folk nowadays must lack life experience if they find that shocking. Tsk tsk.

I agree with Singletrack and their philosophy to only give air time to the sophisticated exploitation of women. I also agree the knuckles draggers and readers of newspapers that don't contain big words should not be catered for here, or in the magazine. This place is for the elite of the mtb world. Wise and sensitive souls come here, not to get aroused by videos with ladies in them, but to show off their superiority, make fun of people who didn't pay attention at school and to argue like little children.

Sha-po singletrack, as they say in well to do circles.

Looks like it was acceptable back in 2011 to leer at scantily clad women in STW...

http://singletrackmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/fresh-goods-friday-23/

Bob, already raised this issue. Apparently, porny is OK sometimes.

Folk nowadays must lack life experience if they find that shocking. Tsk tsk.

That would be very true, if [i]anyone at all[/i] had said they found it shocking.

But fortunately they didn't.

Looks like it was acceptable back in 2011 to leer at scantily clad women in STW...

They showed the front cover of a calendar featuring [i]"artfully shot pictures of the female riders"[/i], lightly took the piss out of it and refused to show the inside.

Hardly leering is it? Do you [i]really[/i] think that is comparable?

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See? More female oppression! ^^^

Jesus wept. Is this thing really still going?

STW really does seem to be getting very Guardian/apologist/offended on behalf of X of late.

Cheer up.

Its a lad doing what his bosses pay him to do, namely ride a bike in an iconic location. You may not like that location, you may not like that he has done it, but its his job and funnily enough, pissing off your boss doesn't help the bills get paid.

How is that any kind of a justification Andy?
He was being paid so we shouldn't criticise it? Singletrack should promote the video regardless of their own view, because that's what Red Bull want?

Singletrack should promote the video regardless of their own view, because that's what Red Bull want?

They could have just ignored it, and promoted something else.

I hear Ed Ox has a new vid out.

We are part of the media. We say stuff. We generally put ignoring stuff down the list where we can. We WERE making a point. And we have succeeded in that. Some people are debating the issues around the video and some are debating about our reasons for speaking out. That's all fine. Whatever side you end up on or otherwise, picking things to say; for you to read, get upset about or behind - that's what we are meant to do. Pleasing everyone and avoiding a good slating is something I personally gave up on a while ago now. Danny was misguided. Using bunny girls was a bit of unsophisticated marketing. They probably new that and are happy to celebrate achieving their aims. Singletrack doesn't really like how they did it. But that's just our opinion and you are free to call us on that and pick holes in our reasoning. But it won't change how we feel about it or about how we spoke up about it.

Can we please have an end to it now Mark? (It's spelt knew by the way 8) )

Well that looks like the final word (I think all others have been used as usual 4x over between the 2 threads) at least everyone now knows that STW don't like it but if anyone missed it they know they can go and find it 🙂

Here are two genuine actual female cyclists who put their point across very well (bless them) in the Evans FB comments:

[b]Rebecca Pritchard[/b]: Great to see some men understand how damaging it is, especially to girls, to use women as decoration especially as women's human rights are decreasing for the first time in 100 years. Girls are already inundated with messages about how they're only purpose is to look good and that they are inadequate at this.

[b]Anne Knott[/b]: This isn't about the actual content of the video. It's disappointing because it aligns mountain biking with a sector that has historically promoted the exploitation of women in a variety of guises. It further embeds the notion that mtb is a male sport and, as others have pointed out, it alienates potential participants who don't like this move (male and female). I know it was probably just seen as a bit of fun, but it was a serious error of judgement on Danny's part. Danny also needs to remember that he appeals to the younger market and therefore has a responsibility toward them and their parents. All the folk out there whose comments support this: do you have a daughter/sister/mother? Would you rather she was kicking ass on a mountain bike, or flaunting her ass for the pleasure of other men? Right then. Come on Danny, you've got the skills to pay the bills, you don't need this rubbish.

Personally I'm quite happy to align myself with those viewpoints.

If you'd rather be on the [i]Its-PC-Garn-Mad[/i] side then take a good look around at your fellow commenters:

No doubt Singletrack have got a bird running their Twitter feed.
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They're jealous because they didn't get to go to the play boy mansion and go balls deep in all those bunny 's like Danny and the film crew did.
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Obvs the editor is a lady, or gay, it's just a bit of fun
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that's why their upset, they might like old man balls instead of nice looking woman.

"A man is known by the company he keeps." 😀