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no but Ianb and myself are out next weekend if you fancy it?
I would love to but I'm saving my first trip this year for the South downs way in April, Give all my kit a test run before we head to wales for the 'Welsh ride thing'...
Plenty of time before the welsh ride thing, the more overnighters the better as you'll get your kit dialled right in.
due to kids Tri-training most of our weekends are taken up with that so cant really get out and test my kit, may try for a quick overnight at end of feb. As the New forest is only 5 mins down the road Im going to pop down there to test it all out..)
Mr Sparkle.......................nice one 😆
i used a kimm/omm sac with
1 x snugpack softee kip bag
1 x 3/4 therma rest
1 x macpac ultralight tent
My mid-90's polaris kit bag looked very much like this. Still have the Snugpack Softee actually.
ian...........me too.
i can no longer get in it tho 😯
Can anyone tell me if the new MBUK with the bivvy article mentions the WRT. I sent them some details and pointed out that it might be something they'd perhaps like to mention.
Thanks in advance.
It's very, brown! 😯
wow that's great but I think Imay well try eat it if I was craving chocolate on a remote hill side 😉
@pastcaring - what did your mate make the bags out of?? Only ask as my misses is a crafty type and may if bribed make something simialar 😆
What's his favourite colour?
all built around his favourite Brooks saddle maybe?
Thats Willy Wonkertastic....!!!
Ahhh pic of the day. 1 shit brown bike 🙂
Looks alright that does, sorta stealthy. Gear ratio looks a touch 'manly' for round here though 😯
Stu - only stealthy in the middle of a Kinderscout bog!
For those of a lightweight persuation I thought this PDF might be useful... some UK-specific Tarp stuff/guff
[url= http://www.andyhowell.info/Colin-Ibbotson/Colin-Talks-Tarps.pdf ]Tarptastic[/url]
just bought soem of the lomo bags after seeing them on here, very well priced and excellent bags, the normal (not heavy duty) ones appear very hard wearing, and when rolled over 100% airtight/water proof, thought about using a partially inflated one as pillow? cheers for whoever posted a link to the lomo site.
Gear ratio looks a touch 'manly'
And with an absence of rear brake, it looks fixed too 😯
yes brown (ups brown to be exact)
yes fixed ( rides cx fixed to)
no idea what its made of, but he make very expensive courier bags...
Ooh yea fixed ... proper silly. The other weekends enforced fixed gear experiment was more than enough, thank you.
still s8tannorm - Member
Ooh yea fixed ... proper silly
i couldn't agree more, but each to their own...
Chimp that tarp article's really good, ta.
Just seen these on eBay for a tenner delivered. Fuel tank type things. Maybe rubbish but the Scott one I've got cost a lot more 🙁
I reckon you modify it a bit (cut out the expanding side bags)
Those look interesting not sure how waterproof that's going to be but for £10 can you go wrong?
Liberal spraying with Fabsil? I only tend to put Gels etc in mine so doesn't really matter how waterproof it is.
Most of these bike packing bags are not water proof anyway. The frame bags e.t.c are only made form cordora, it's up to you to use dry bags if you need it to be dry.
Like you say tiger, gels and bars are sealed anyway so that wouldn't matter but if you put a camera or something in a small sandwich ziploc bag would keep that safe.
Can't go wrong for a tenner.
Bought one, will report back
Your the 1 of 10 sold?! I'd be interested to know what it's like to ride with when the side pockets are opened out. I'm pretty sure that's where my knees usually are! Keep us informed.
Yep, I'm 1 in 10, I'm hoping the fold out side bags will just cut out leaving 2 small pockets either side.
Right so I bought the £10 ‘Fuel tank’ type bag off ebay (see above^^^) Turned up this morning, pretty good seen as I didn’t press ‘Buy it now’ ‘till late afternoon yesterday. So that’s super quick delivery.
First impressions are pretty good, it’s bigger than the Scott one I’ve got and it actually attaches to the bike better. It’s nice material, not too heavy and looks well made.
The main internal pocket is a nice size with internal side ‘cargo nets’ the two side pockets are okay and would be great for gels and chocolate but not much more.
187 grams as it is.
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/47300508@N05/5431890276/ ]Budget fuel tank[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/47300508@N05/ ]fantasticmrmatt[/url], on Flickr
Not too big and plenty of clearance for me knees
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/47300508@N05/5431895692/ ]Budget fuel tank[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/47300508@N05/ ]fantasticmrmatt[/url], on Flickr
I should be able to modify it to what I want.
First I removed the naff branding.
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/47300508@N05/5431861134/ ]Budget fuel tank[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/47300508@N05/ ]fantasticmrmatt[/url], on Flickr
Then I cut off the useless expanding mini pannier side pockets, these came off really easily and was just a case of unpicking the stitching which wasn’t integral to anything else.
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/47300508@N05/5431863604/ ]Budget fuel tank[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/47300508@N05/ ]fantasticmrmatt[/url], on Flickr
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/47300508@N05/5431868108/ ]Budget fuel tank[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/47300508@N05/ ]fantasticmrmatt[/url], on Flickr
Suitably modified down to 156 grams
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/47300508@N05/5431267863/ ]Budget fuel tank[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/47300508@N05/ ]fantasticmrmatt[/url], on Flickr
All done and on the bike
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/47300508@N05/5431879766/ ]Budget fuel tank[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/47300508@N05/ ]fantasticmrmatt[/url], on Flickr
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/47300508@N05/5431883068/ ]Budget fuel tank[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/47300508@N05/ ]fantasticmrmatt[/url], on Flickr
Now I reckon at £10 that’s a bargain!
Oh and that might be a Wildcat bag that also arrived today 🙂 more to come on that later. 🙂
that look great Matt.
Just building a 456 for bivvy rides 😉 as the Jandd frame bag I wouldn't fit my carrera/merida frame 8O.
plus option to go rigid forked if I man up enough 😆
Put me down for number 2 of 10 😀 great review cant go wrong for £10.
Cant wait for a bit of news on that wildcat bag ))))
valleydaddy - Memberthat look great Matt.
Recognise that stem?
Nice job ... plenty of room for mother in laws cake 😉
indeed I do Matt, I could do with it back now for my 456 build 😉
OOOOOOOoooooo who said cake???
A whole barra brith would go in there!!!
I love this thread - I'm inspired to give it a go!
I just bought number 3 fuel tank bag...
Slowly getting my stuff together for the WRT/general bivvying, already sorted the front rack arrangement (based on klickfix bar bag holder, some straps and some plastic guttering and it is dead stable, have borrowed my mums sewing machine and made a frame bag. Might have a go at a seat pack for my next trick as not happy with the rear rack arrangement...
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looking good Mark good effort making your own, I may go down this route for a full frame bag, what fabric did you use?
Nice job Mark 😀
Futon, if you want to give it a whirl there's no better introduction than the WRT :wink:. Drop me an email and I'll send you over an entry form. £15 to enter which goes to charity and you'll even get a very exclusive WRT T shirt.
stuart@forestfreeride.co.uk
What is the WRT?
http://welshridething.blogspot.com/
"The WRT is a 3 day and perhaps more importantly 2 night ride through and around mid Wales. You'll be expected to be self sufficient, carrying everything you need and sleeping out in or under whatever you think best. It's not elitist, entry is open to anyone who wants to try it. All the money raised by the WRT goes to the Wales Air Ambulance charity ... an organisation I hope you'll never need"
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/the-2011-welsh-ride-thing-is-go
What is the WRT?
Its a bit like HRT but involves sleeping with sheep 🙂
The Welsh Ride Thing is the most fun I've had on a bike in ages.
[url= http://welshridething.blogspot.com/ ]linky[/url]
Good god man where have you been 😉 Welsh Ride Thing - A 3 day, 2 night self sufficient ride/event in sunny mid Wales at the end of May.
A month before the start you'll be given a list of grid references, you then have a month to work out your own route that'll pass through them. Around noon on May 28th you'll set off into the hills and mountains. If we're lucky you'll return sometime in the afternoon of May 30th with tales of high adventure and wet feet or possibly pub lock ins and wendy houses.
You'll have spent months looking at different types of sleeping bag, stoves, down jackets, dry bags and all manner of ultralight bikepacking tackle. Throughout May you spend every waking moment trying to figure out the best possible route to take, you'll end up on here asking if anyone knows what the track between such and such and such and such is like. You'll dream about contour lines and your eye sight will deminish as you squint at the little black dots through forests on your new collection of OS maps.
BUT you will have a fantastic time and want to do it every year. You can find more ramblings here> http://welshridething.blogspot.com/ <
Well, between us I think we summed that up quite well 😉
tales of high adventure and wet feet or possibly pub lock ins and wendy houses.
I've had to go back to the Teifi Inn since that episode, the landlord still talks about it.
Throughout May you spend every waking moment trying to figure out the best possible route to take, you'll end up on here asking if anyone knows what the track between such and such and such and such is like.
And after all that still end up following me 😀
Looks like this year I'll be out of my comfort zone if you are going East 😕
To preserve all the WRT stuff in one place, it might be an idea to post any further WRT stuff on it's own thread:> http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/the-2011-welsh-ride-thing-is-go
Good god man where have you been Welsh Ride Thing - A 3 day, 2 night self sufficient ride/event in sunny mid Wales at the end of May.A month before the start you'll be given a list of grid references, you then have a month to work out your own route that'll pass through them. Around noon on May 28th you'll set off into the hills and mountains. If we're lucky you'll return sometime in the afternoon of May 30th with tales of high adventure and wet feet or possibly pub lock ins and wendy houses.
You'll have spent months looking at different types of sleeping bag, stoves, down jackets, dry bags and all manner of ultralight bikepacking tackle. Throughout May you spend every waking moment trying to figure out the best possible route to take, you'll end up on here asking if anyone knows what the track between such and such and such and such is like. You'll dream about contour lines and your eye sight will deminish as you squint at the little black dots through forests on your new collection of OS maps.
As a first timer to this year WRT, its already taking up loads of time. My wife is
A, Bored of hearing about it
B, Bored of going to 'Go outdoors' and other outdoor stores
C, Hacked off with Maps layed out in the office checking out last years route and 'post its' with list of things Ive seen online and think, I bet I need one of these..
Cant wait.....
WRT threads do bring a smile to my face.
I still panic about kit all year for the next WRT.
My Mrs hardly complains about the amount of gucci stuff the postman brings as she thinks it's better than me having a midlife crisis affair.
@Bigface, i bet you don't NEED half the stuff you think you do.
markenduro - Member
Might have a go at a seat pack for my next trick as not happy with the rear rack arrangement...
What problems are you having with it? I like this set up personally, it's what I have done. More secure, lower c of g and more out of the way for getting off the back than a seat packs. I can see the advantage of a seat packs for bike which don't take a rack and depending on the rack you use it might be marginally lighter, although some rack modification can easily get the two within comparable weights.
Good effort on the frame bag, I've got some plans in my head for one too just have not got round to it.
I love all the gear.. top tip, get it delivered to work, wife never need to know 😛
I thought I would start with a massive load of stuff then really think about it closer to the time. I've got a southdowns way trip in april to try everything and see if I really need it... V exciting ))
£15 to enter which goes to charity and you'll even get a very exclusive WRT T shirt.
I might be up for this if I can get the time off from the family.
I thought it cost £150, which I just can't afford at present, but I must of been getting mixed up with the blackmountain event thingy that paul78's just started a new thread about.
I knocked off a quick 200km raid into Cornwall and back yesterday so I'm sure I've still got a bit of the old endurance cycling magic left in me 😉
I'll check the domestic diary and, hopefully, e-mail you Stuart.
(EDIT: It wasn't actually that quick a 200k. Took me about 12 hours)
I have no gear, an inappropriate bike, have never done a bivvi or an overnight on a bike (not counting 24hr races) so why, oh why, do I have a strange hankering to have a go at the WRT??
I've done bivvy'ing with cheap gear, a bit of damp proof course for a tarp, old fleece for a insulation. Crappy carry mat. All put in a 35ltr rucksack and cheap drybag on a beamrack.
I think you need to do it with with cheap gear first so you know what you really want.
I reckon you could put a half decent kit list together for sub £100
Mr Sparkle, thats the attitude!!
I reckon you're right Tiger ... sub £100 kit is certainly possible. I'll continue the theme on the blog in the next week or so, at present I recall we'd taken care of a tarp and bivvy bag and still had £50 something left to spend. So, still left to buy ... sleeping bag, sleeping mat, something to cook on and something to cook with, if there's any change we'll buy some dry bags 😉
flatfish = tramp 🙂
300
- baco cook in bags, you only need something to boil water.something to cook with
£23 [url= http://www.outdoorvalue.co.uk/products/63-gelert-adventure-bivvy-bivvi-sleeping-bag-liner.html?source=googleps ]Bivi Bag[/url]
£37 [url= http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-7415.aspx ]Downy small packing sleeping bag[/url]
£8 [url= http://www.worldoftents.co.uk/gelert-backpacker-airbed.html ]Thermarest Neoair (sort of, ish)[/url]
£free DPC tarp
£free Coke Can Stove
£free Alu foil wind-shield
£3 [url= http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/aluminium-mug-3241309/ ]Super light weight pot[/url]
£8 [url= http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.203-7543.aspx ]Tesco Pretzel Head-torch (I use one of these anyway)[/url]
[url= http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16268&category_id=251 ]All in a Drybag come rucksack in one £23[/url]
So that's [b]£102[/b] and you've a breathable bivi bag, down sleeping bag, comfy airbed, all okay, not too heavy kit 🙂
under £100 easy
we're going past these places right??
only £19.99 a night sorted
😉
I would just like to say ... if anyone wants to try their hand at this bikepacking/bivvy lark then, please, please for the love of little baby Jesus do not use the article in this months MBUK as inspiration. Golden opportunity well and truly missed. 🙄
Thank you.
I was going to email you after my tea to see if you'd read it yet.
It made me laugh. 😯
wow that's a reason to buy MBUK tomorrow for a giggle then!! 😉
It made me weep 😀
Seeing as we were talking about not spending vast sums of money, this might be of interest.
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/myog_3mm_plastic_tarps.html
It made me weep
Can you sum it up or provide an excerpt or something, to save me a trip to WH Smith's in the morning?
You can have my copy gladly Ian. I'll fetch it Saturday.
I have no gear, an inappropriate bike, have never done a bivvi or an overnight on a bike (not counting 24hr races) so why, oh why, do I have a strange hankering to have a go at the WRT??
I can lend you some kit (today's random act of kindness)
Ok, we'll hide loads of stuff in the woods (cider, a leg of lamb, a massive cooking pot, etc, etc). Then we'll swan off for a bit of a ride carrying 'all' our gear ❓ in 25l packs. This gear includes 4 season bags, inflating mats, spares, tools, clothes, tarp (in a 25l pack yea right).
Then we'll come back to camp, rig our tarp up, cook a curry, bake bread and drink cider ... because we're proper adventerous we are.
That kind of sums it up really, £4.25 saved 😉
So if thats what you get for under £100, what would you buy if you had a bottomless pot?
What flatfish has 😀
I wish 8)
Have we had a 'Flatfish' kit list yet?
I've got one somewhere from a trip last March I think.
I suppose for me (and this might just be me) the most important areas are bags, bivvy, sleeping and carrying. That's where I'd spend the decent money, oh and tea bags!
Give me half hour and I'll put my old list up
Coolio, My balloon bed arrived today, they're great just been laying on it watching tv....God I'm sad
Tarp
Bivvy bag
Neoair
Sleeping bag
Stove/fuel
Titan kettle
Titan cup
Lahoon
Matches
Down jacket
hat
Water filter
Tick twister
Bog roll
Toothbrush/paste
Head torch
Spot
Phone
food and water to go in there and some alcohol
will we get grid refs for where the cider is? Material for the bag is cordura so reasonably waterproof apart from the zip. This is the mk2 version as made one previously for another bike which is quite a bit heavier and not as good. Stu, any tips on making the can stove as i keep splitting the cans as i push them together.

