[Closed] Sick as a dog so, show me you Bivi / Bikepacking / Adventure racing gear.....

[quote=Teetosugars ]Agree with you on the doss bag Colin. Love my Lamina 0..
When packing it away after these photos I was hoping I'd not need it for at least another 6 months 🙂

A -15 rated bag would be mighty warm outside of October-April!

Hi guys,

great thread, I've only just stumbled on it. This thread has given me the motivation to go try something similar this summer. I'm not a well seasoned camper so will wait till ideal conditions before giving it a go.

If I go in the summer time and pick a weekend where there is no chance of rain. Will I be OK sleeping in just summer sleeping bag and a mat under the stars? Or do you still recommend a bivy bag and tarp etc ?

If 100% no chance rain then a sleeping bag is fine without a bivi or tarp

[quote=eoghan ]A -15 rated bag would be mighty warm outside of October-April!
The "Comfort" rating of that bag is -5C and you'd have hoped we'd not have too many nights as cold as that in what we laughingly call summer. I also have a Lamina 35 which has a CR of 2C so that'll be getting aired this weekend.

[quote=jairaj ]Hi guys,
great thread, I've only just stumbled on it. This thread has given me the motivation to go try something similar this summer. I'm not a well seasoned camper so will wait till ideal conditions before giving it a go.
If I go in the summer time and pick a weekend where there is no chance of rain. Will I be OK sleeping in just summer sleeping bag and a mat under the stars? Or do you still recommend a bivy bag and tarp etc ?
It's gonna depend on temperature too. A bivy bag of any sort will add a few degrees of warmth, especially if it's a bit windy.

If 100% no chance rain then a sleeping bag is fine without a bivi or tarp

Scotroutes - that's a brilliant blog you've got going on there.

eoghan - thanks. Nice to know someone appreciates it. I sometimes worry that it is too "wordy" but it's really just an extension of some notes I was taking for my own benefit and there are lots of little details that help spark the recollection process.

Got to say this is one of the best threads I've read on here - really inspired me to bivi again. Thanks!

Just in time for elevenses, here's my first impressions of bivvying

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http://www.blog.scotroutes.com/2013/05/a-different-slant.html

We're due a bump I think

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More [url= http://mcalisterium.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/short-sleeves-and-storm-clouds/ ]here[/url], with thanks to ScotRoutes and the weather. 🙂

Sunnier in my photo - but I bet it was a bloody sight colder!!

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Nice write-up though. You have a very humorous style.

Sunnier in my photo - but I bet it was a bloody sight colder!!

I don't doubt it! 🙂

Glad you enjoyed it.

I enjoyed reading that vorlich,and the photos are stunning. Thank you.

Scarcely an adventure as I was only out for a couple of hours 🙄 , (although that's often enough time to get into some kinda trouble) but for a size reference picture, here's a small sized Wildcat Tiger rackless bag, filled with a 5ltr Alpkit drybag, strapped to my Peregrine.

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I've taken to using this, or my larger Bikepacking.EU back for 'day-touring', rather than go for more traditional 'day' bags - just for carrying tools, a tube, something to eat, a waterproof, and extra layer - stuff like that.

Due to head for a cairngorm tour in about 10 days - anyone got info on conditions please - snow, fordability of rivers etc? Gaick, Tromie, By back, Braes Abernethy, Fords of A an etc

Ta

This is quite a good site for getting real time data on river levels Boxelder, gives you an idea if they are running higher or lower than normal.

http://www.sepa.org.uk/water/river_levels/river_level_data.aspx

That's a great link.
Ta

Took youngest son on his first bikepacking trip, all the lightweight gear I used on the Polaris Challenges has long since expired, so used what we had just in case he didn't enjoy it. Seems he did and we are off again next weekend to do it properly wild.

My SS Bikepacker made from the parts bin.
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Our accommodation for Saturday night:
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recommendations on food? any nice just add water meals out there?

Spent last night in the wilds of the Mournes.

wasnt a bad night for it. Could do with a smaller sleeping bag if I'm going to make a habit of it.

All in all was a good night!

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Whereabouts in the Mournes Tony?

gazerath - Member
recommendations on food? any nice just add water meals out there?

No need to add water, just boil in the bag...

[url= http://www.lookwhatwefound.co.uk/ ]Look what we found...[/url]

Camped at pierces castle, then descended back to rostrevor via castle bog, then onto the new trails.

For quick carbs, I like the flavoured couscous you get in single serving packets in supermarkets. Ignore the instructions, heat some water and when it's near boiling, whack it in, roll over the top and leave for a few mins. The fact you're not having to keep something on the boil means your fuel lasts longer.

ASDA are doing "look what we found" meals for a quid at the moment, use by dates are well into next year so have stocked up the cupboard.

What section are they in I'll go hunting later

How do you guys carry around enough water when wild camping? I can easily get through 3 litres on an all day ride so no idea what I'd use for cooking with in the evening and then the next day?

Or is the idea to focus on the camping rather than an epic ride and do a smaller route leaving enough water for food and the return journey.

jairaj - I've been using a Travel Tap. Great when you know you're going places with running water (everywhere in the peaks).
They do an inline camelbak filter too.

They look a little too-good-to-be-true, but there are plenty of people I trust using them.

Even a normal pump-style water filter is going to weight a lot less than a litre of water, so it's worth doing imo.

I've been walking and cycling in the hills for years and never had a problem with water from fast flowing steams, rivers and burns. Just avoid water sources near cattle.

Yep, if it's fast flowing, above human habitation and doesn't have a dead sheep in it, it'll probably be okay - especially if you're boiling the water anyway.

I used chlorination tablets, followed by choline neutralising tablets. It was the best tasting water I've ever had! (well, you know it was perfectly drinkable)

ah always wondered if the water in the peaks and lake was good to drink. thanks for the pointers.

Look what we found in with the tinned curries etc
Only ever camped in the wilds of Scotland so the nearest stream is the normal source of water

Readying myself to invest in a decent thermal matt.

Obvious choice is the Thermarest NeoAir xlite, but it is quite pricey. After seeing the Hyalite Peak Elite Ac advertised for about £50 i'm very tempted by that.

Any opinions on these tow or similar?

I'm after a fairly small pack size and weight, warm enough for year round UK, maybe not snow.

Thanks

How do you guys carry around enough water when wild camping? I can easily get through 3 litres on an all day ride so no idea what I'd use for cooking with in the evening and then the next day?

In lots of places in Scotland / Lakes I just drink from fast flowing streams, usually as high up as possible where there are fewer sheep and cattle.

Otherwise, you can get descent filter bottles for £30 that mean you can drink from pretty much anything. No way would I carry all the water I need it would ruin the trip.

Exped synmat ul gets my vote packs to size of coke can. Not the lightest or cheapest on the market but found it more comfy than the thermarests and doesn't sound like a crisp packet

[url= http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16557&category_id=289 ]Alpkit Numo?[/url]

Thanks for help guys. Have heard good things about the Exped elsewhere and something just doesn't seem right with the Alpkit one to me (and I like Alpkit gear, have one of there down bags). So think I'm going to get the Exped.

Thanks

A few pics from our Dartmoor bivvy on Thursday night

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My cheapie trailer.

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Sunset over Tavistock from the rail trail

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A bed of bluebells

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My now broken cheapie trailer! Note to self, it won't take rocky descents... Cableties to the rescue!
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A sleepy evilsam 🙂

Ops tired double post..

Looks like a great way to spend a Thursday evening Joe.

One slightly concerned question though. I'm out on Dartmoor bivi manoueveres this evening and your mossie net has got me worried. Was the moor heaving with midges & other little biters on your above trip?

Hi Slugwash!

Mossie net was a precaution really, as I knew we would be stopping in the trees in the valley. In reality the breeze kept most of the midges away and a good coating of deet should deter the others

Cheers Joe, I think I'll pack adequate precautions anyway. Don't really want a repeat of another June bivi some three years ago. Ooooh, it were 'ell....

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Well, went out for my first attempt at bikepacking this weekend after wanting to try it for a while. The wife decided she didn't want to be in the house over the weekend, so decided yesterday lunchtime that we should load up the bikes and head out.

Fairly tame first attempt, 30 all-road miles from Durham to Middleton-in-Teesdale. With not much in the way of lightweight and/or small cooking equipment we decided we'd use local eateries on arrival (this needs to be changed, NEEDED a brew this morning and had to wait).

Used cheap Tesco kit in the form of a 2 man tent, self-inflating mats, sleeping bags and drybags. The tent poles were wrapped in my mat to take some weight off my back. All seemed to work quite well, though the tent was a bit on the short side for me. Looking forward to another attempt soon.

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Just had a mini adventure in the Cairngorms

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Quick last-minute bivi into the Goyt Valley again.
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Gear highlights[/b]
Bag holders: [b]Wildcat Mountain Lion and Tiger[/b]
Bags: [b]Alpkit Airlok Xtras (13l front 8l rear)[/b]
Hammock: [b]UKhammocks Woodsman X[/b]
Tarp: [b]DD 3m x 3m tarp[/b]
Sleeping Bag: [b]Mountain Hardware Lamina 35[/b]
Water: [b]Travel Tap[/b] (kept refilling at all streams)

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Shining Tor - just before heading down into Shooter's Clough to camp.

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View from the hammock in the morning (6:30am)

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View of the camp at Shooter's Clough after taking down the tarp

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Water-stop half-way up the Goyt.

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Brunch stop at the bottom of Cumberland Clough.

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Hi Ive just set up a new Bike and Bivi UK Facebook page, reviews, adventures, pics you know the genral kind of stuff. Link Below:-

Looks nice Alex

There's also 'Bike Packing UK' community on Google+ for G+ers too (not created by me BTW, am just in it) 🙂

Don't forget Bear Bones Bike Packing

http://bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/phpBB3/index.php

On the water carrying front I use one of these.

It weighs nowt, packs down small, and you simply fill it up at the last pub stop and bungy it on to the bike. Not ideal for wild camping (where a purifier would be handy) but ideal for extra overnight water when in the lowland areas where streams are not an option.

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http://www.charliethebikemonger.com/deuter-flexi-bottle-20l-2831-p.asp

Deejayen... "Any recommendations for sleeping gear for a cold sleeper?"

Get some of the £1 disposable pocket warmers, they look like a tea bag. Throw one in the bottom of any sleeping bag to add a season to its warmth rating. Dead cheap, dead light, right toasty.

Wot no stupidly sunny photos from the weekend? I was camping with the family on the Gower and thinking what a fantastic weekend it would have been for a bivvy...!

Pics of my gear and trip/fail here: http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/have-a-go-hero-tries-lakeland-200-and-fails

Hi managed to get some holiday time in Scotland next week so planning a couple of one nighters away. I had ordered a seat bag from Uraltour in Russia. they said 2 to 4 weeks delivery and it arrived after 25 days so all is good, and it was trackable through Russia post web site. Bag weighs about 300g its made from a good tough looking nylon has a roll down top with velco fastening and some decent size straps to secure it. Its a good size, as pictured it has a light weight down bag, Terra nova 1 man tent and all my cooking gear in it. They sell frame and bar bags too.

Seat bag was £38 delivered.

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Has anyone used one of these, the Honey Stove....

http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/wood-burning-stoves/RD103.html

I am a lover of the Trangia, used one for many years, which is good for car camping!

So now looking for something a lot smaller and lighter so that I can give bikepacking a go! 😉

Has anyone used one of these, the Honey Stove....

http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/wood-burning-stoves/RD103.html

I am a lover of the Trangia, used one for many years, which is good for car camping!

So now looking for something a lot smaller and lighter so that I can give bikepacking a go!

Mounty, if you fancy using wood as fuel then the Honey stove works okay. When all said and done it's just a box you burn stuff in. If wood is going to be your fuel of choice then a wood stove with an inner/outer wall will work much better. Here's a few ideas for MYOG wood stoves.

[url= http://bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1133&p=10234&hilit=ikea#p10234 ]Bear Bones simple wood stove[/url]

[url= http://bearbonesbikepacking.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/myo-eco-friendly-sustainable-renewable.html ]Bear Bones wood-gas double wall stove[/url]

If you really do fancy something light then wood might not be the ideal option. Meths will (as long as you're not using something like a Trangia) be a much lighter option.

[url= http://www.bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/pages/contact.html ]8g and 22g meths stoves[/url]

Meths is my main source of fuel, I love my Trangia, but its just too bulky and heavy to carry.

The White box stove looks impressive too. I was looking for something that will use multi fuels, as I have a gas burner too for the trangia.

I have a Mytimug from alpkit and I wanted a small/light stove to cook, simply.

I like the ikea stove, we are going there tomorrow and that has put a whole new approach on looking around ikea, brilliant!

I have a Mytimug from alpkit and I wanted a small/light stove to cook, simply.

There is a Myti mug stove set available that includes, stove, windshield, pot cosy and fuel bottle. It will work with other mugs/pans but was designed for the AlpKit mug.

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I have a Mytimug from alpkit and I wanted a small/light stove to cook, simply.

edit.. that mytimug kit looks spot on! I use my fleece-lined stuff bag / pillow as a pot cozy and now it smells of a mix of mold and spicy noodles.

Got out for my first overnight bivvy just over a week ago. Headed out about 7.30pm with a mate on a Thursday night with the aim to head to the coast via a few cheeky PRoW, find somewhere to camp over night and then up early the next morning to go to work.

Pretty much went to plan, and apart from being underdressed during the night and getting cold, I quite enjoyed it! Best commute of the year...actually ever I reckon!

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As the mozzies have just started to take notice of me again, what are peoples thoughts on repellant sprays (currently use Jungle Spray)or those coil things that look like [url= http://www.lifesystems.co.uk/products/insect-repellents-insecticides/mosquito-coils.html ]this[/url]? I've found a lovely spot on the edge of a lake but it obviously the mozzies like it too 🙁

8 gram Micro burner testing

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boil time out of the wind 8 mins

Ooh Nice email from Alpkit to wake up to!

Indeeed, didn't know the airlock duals were in stock so have one on order now in teh hope it arrives for the inaugural bivvy this weekend!

Managed to get out for a cheeky one nighter up on Dartmoor recently. Cycled up out of the village and up on t'moor, found a cheeky spot with a nice sunset view, a nice view from the bed and a pub not too far away for a few ciders before turning in...

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Bike all packed up and ready to leave - I could probably have packed lighter but I like a certain level of luxury, especially when it's just for a night.

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Mid afternoon cider fuelling.

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Early evening cider refuelling

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Spreading out under the Tor that was to be home from home for the night

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Sunset

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More sunset

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Not a bad morning view - I chose to sleep away from the rising sun to get a bit of a lie in and it worked a treat.

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Looking back to last night cider refuelling pub stop, whilst making breakfast.

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Sunny morning, beautiful singletrack, a longs days riding ahead - what could be better??

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And after 80 miles in 2 days, nothing to clean expect the dust off the bike...

Nice pics Northerner. What Tor is that and where did you start from? I don't recognise the singletrack?

Cheers julioflo. I bedded down under Hookney Tor - the pub you can see as a white splodge in the distance is the Warren House Inn. I live in a small village just outside Plymouth so started and, er, ended there. The singletrack is the trail over Headland Warren ridden East to West. Gert lush!!

Thanks, thought it was the Warren House Inn I could see. Don't get up to the Headland Warren area much. An overnight trip like yours would be a good way for me to get up there I think.

[url= http://veloaficionado.com/australias-bicycle-riding-shearers-of-the-early-twentieth-century/ ]This looks familiar:[/url]

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The Mytimug stove set mentioned above - where can those be found? Looked at Alpkit etc but can't see a set.

Clues in the picture.

The Mytimug stove set mentioned above - where can those be found? Looked at Alpkit etc but can't see a set.

I bike-packed into work today!

Off to the woods after work. 13 litre Alpkit jobby strapped to the bars with hammock and tarp, sleeping mat, wolly blanket. 8 litre Alpkit jobby on the back with bike bits, clothes, silk sleeping bag liner and sundry items.

While I'm going fast n light(ish), it's not quite bare bones camping, I'm meeting a few old school mates. Someone's driving and bringing a BBQ, steaks and 36 pints of ale!

Love Dartmoor! Those pictures look great.
Reminds me of a dissertation I did a couple of summers ago. Took 2,300 measurements across 70 Tors/clitter fields. Took the bike along for most of them. Would love to spend a few nights wild camping like that.

Took my 11yo out for a quick bivi trip last week. He really seems to love it.
Only a short ride though.

The woods on the left is where we were heading for to camp
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Looking for 3 nicely spaced trees as the sun went down
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This is in the morning as I couldn't get a good shot at night. We've already taken the tarp down, but it was a single 3mx3m DD hammocks tarp over both of us.
Very glad of the midge nets on these UKHammocks woodsman hammocks as it was particularly bad over the slightly damp ground. (my old hammock didn't have this).
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Breakfast spot overlooking one of my favourite local descents.
We used our home-made wood burning stove to rehydrate some couscous.
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This was the first time I'd used the Wildcat Tiger on both bikes. Really love it. I've got the large (with 8L bag), Niall's got the small (with 5L bag) which worked out just right.

It was nice to have company for a change (plus he can tie knots better than me).

Ah this thread is amazing 😀

But I've been trying to find the Salsa Anything Cages for sale... are they an old thing?

But I've been trying to find the Salsa Anything Cages for sale... are they an old thing?

But I've been trying to find the Salsa Anything Cages for sale... are they an old thing?

They got taken off sale due to a manufacturing fault. The welds between the cages and the mounts where prone to snapping.

Bugger. Got two... been fine so far...