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Very nice indeed , my Remedy 9.9 came with the alloy remedy 9 build kit .ive put a reverb stealth on , carbon haven bars , for the summer I'll be using these stans no tubes crest wheelset at 1440g tubeless with bonty xr3 and xr2 tyres also a SDG Falcon Ti saddle.And just fitted a X01 groupset with the xx1 cassette. All in without pedals 24.9lbs/11.29kg 🙂
Thats a vry light bike from stock 🙂
not disbelieving you but I'd like to see it on the scales at that!
I prefer my trail bikes with a little more beef to them than that too!
That's fine I will get myself on the scales again and show with and without weights post back in a few days as im at work.
For a little more beef I will be swapping the wheelset out , for some hope pr 2 evos with arch ex for allday use .
Have posted pics in the 'show me your Enduro etc' thread but just picked up a medium Pivot Mach6 that comes in at 12.2kg, sorry, on my iPhone so too much hassle to link pics.
Hi this is my first pic post on here too . I went to imgur.com uploaded photo no need to register, then copied and pasted hope this helps.
Krampus + Tallboy - the tallboy has been through 1x xx1 drivetrain already due to low maintenance
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Very nice 🙂
dirtyrider - do you think this has worn too early or are you OK with this after 1500 miles?
Just wondering, 1500 miles is a fair amount off-road if conditions are mucky, the equivalent to an entire years riding once a weekend at 30 miles a pop.
Reason I ask is my works components one probably has 800 miles or so on it now and still looks to have lots of life left in it, I have popped a new chain on once though - a stretched chain cant help.
Did the chain still stay on btw?!
Wow im no expert ive only just put the X01 groupset on my Remedy. But I do ride in an area were its like grinding paste in the wet, so judicious cleaning is required post ride on the drivetrain.ive never seen that amount of wear on a drivetrain to be honest.good job you can buy the jockey wheels seperate .
chain never dropped, i was fine with the wear vs mileage considering the lack of maintenance
Im liking it 🙂
Slightly OT but dirty rider are those 140mm 34s on your tallboy? I was wondering if I'd get away with fitting 140mm pikes to mine
Worth changing the chain regularly? Assume chain checkers work the same? Next bike coming soon will 1 x 11
If only to increase the lifespan of the cassette I'd say so.
njee, you could get that down to 19lb easy and it wouldnt cost a penny.
Cut your steerer 🙂
Ha! May change the fork, so not gonna cut it quite yet, head tube isn't particularly long!
No, I dont blame you, it does look short!
Im liking the Stache lots 🙂
Not quite 1x11.....XX1 cranks with a General Lee adapter. It was just over 30lbs with a Fox 34 fork and XT cranks, so should be 29lb something with Pikes and XX1 cranks.
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All very nice indeed 🙂
That was for my original post of my remedy 9.9 no pedals
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Slightly off topic but what spokes and lengths did you use on those wheels Njee20?
American Classic on light bicycle beadless rims?
Thinking of building some wheels with the same parts!
What weight are they coming in at?
Thanx,
Max
Yetiman, is that the Peak district?
27.8lbs:
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29lbs
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Think someone (well most people on this thread) have got their imaginary magical weighing scales out again.
There is no way that the two bikes above are only 1lb and bit different! The Santa Cruz even has sub 500g cranks on.
28.41lbs measured on digital scales. This is Fitted with sdg ti fly saddle and renthal carbon bars since photo.
Agree with above post some of the weights listed are a bit optimistic, but hey as long as it rides light 😉
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My Remedy 9.9 is a full carbon frame fitted with easton carbon haven bar , sdg falcon ti saddle , xo1 groupset apart from the cassette wich is xx1.the wheels on her are stans hubs with crest rims with are laced with DT revolution spokes 1440g a pair .ive gone tubeless using bonty xr3 and xr2 tyres these are both sub 600g tyres. So my weight of 24.11 lbs is factual withought pedals 🙂
factual without pedals
My bike is about 6.5kg without forks, saddle or seatpost 😉
Only cure for the criticism is a scale shot (Park/ Alpine/ other decent non-ebay £5 scale) with the bike as ridden. If you ride with ton of heli-tape/ Garmin/ lights/ whatever that should be included IMO
I'll post up my Scalpel when I get pics (XX1 and some nice modifications to drop the weight of the stock groupset).
Weighed with a calibrated Park Tools scale. Your probably thinking that those Enves weigh a lot less than my Crossmax wheels but there is only 100g in it. Also, why couldn't I get a rune under 30lbs when the designer Keith Scott speaks openly that he has seen them down a 27lbs with a lightweight build?
I am not a liar mate. You will find most runes around the 31lbs mark but this one has carbon bars, xx1, light wheelset and xo trails.
If anything the Santa Cruz should be closer to 26lbs.
Enve quote them being 200g difference to mavic
Frame, chainset, shock, saddle, brakes, tyres etc etc are all lighter than your bike. So one of the bikes bike has been weighed wrong.
How do you know that's it's 200g when you don't even know what hubs he's running?
At the end of the day, I know how much my bike weighs. I don't know why you should be so shocked that an aluminium framed bike can dip just under 30lbs with an xx1 build and decent wheels.
generallevi - Member
@RikHow do you know that's it's 200g when you don't even know what hubs he's running?
Enve kit is a standard option on the SC and their Mavic on Mavic hubs. (from the pic)
@mikewsmith
I know they are Mavic on Mavic dude as it's my bike! My point is depending on what hubs that Santa Cruz has will have an effect on the overall difference between the two wheel sets. As durable as king are they are a lot heavier than a DT Swiss build, for example
Taken directly from the Enve website:
WEIGHT: KING ISO*
1602g
WEIGHT: DT 180*
1420g
WEIGHT: DT 240 15mm/142*
1515g
Weights taken from Mavic website:
Weight : 1660 grams (pair of wheel)
So if your man is running his Enve's with King then as I said there's less that 100g in it, well 58 actually. Not bad considering you could get three pairs of mavics for the price of 1 pair of Enves. They do look mega though! 😉
Here are my two, I've got no idea how much they weight though....
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not usually jealous of bikes on here, but that jones is magnificent! will get one eventually!
I'm sure you all know manufacturer weights are optimistic at best and a complete lie at worst. Time after time i've weighed something and it's been over the quoted manufacturer weight, often by a fair bit. For example RS quotes a 2011 Revelation RLT Ti (dual air) as 1636g. When i got mine the steerer had been cut and it weighed 1800g on the nose.
So by the time you've added up the (optimistic) manufacturer weights of all your parts you'll have a bike that on paper weighs at least a few hundred grams, maybe an entire pound, less than it actually does.
Or didn't you realise you were being lied to?
So by the time you've added up the (optimistic) manufacturer weights of all your parts you'll have a bike that on paper weighs at least a few hundred grams, maybe an entire pound, less than it actually does.
I must have picked better parts and spec lists 🙂 I planned my last build that way and there was 300g difference which went down for cables and some other misc bits.
I must have picked better parts and spec lists
You must have the bestest specced bike ever
Santa Cruz quote 5.3lbs for a Bronson C frame with Fox CTD
Banshee were quoting 8.5 lbs for a Rune with CCDBa when I was looking to buy one.
100g one way or the other on wheels is small potatoes if there's a 3.2lb difference in frames. Banshee has heavier wheels, heavier tyres,and heavier cranks. Not sure where the weight savings can be coming from to get it within 1lb of the Bronson
bomberman - Member
I must have picked better parts and spec lists
You must have the bestest specced bike ever
Just the ones that have the right quoted weights, I'm finding most modern stuff quoted properly just there is still some stuff sneaking in - like forks specced with heavier steerers etc.
The Jones is lovely! With I had the beans to make mine xx1.
c_klein87 - Member
not usually jealous of bikes on here, but that jones is magnificent! will get one eventually!
Thanks, I'm really over the moon with how it turned out.
futon river crossing - Member
The Jones is lovely! With I had the beans to make mine xx1.
The XX1 on my other bike has been great and I love having a gripshift again. I went with a trigger shifter on the Jones though after getting advice from Jeff.
100g one way or the other on wheels is small potatoes if there's a 3.2lb difference in frames. Banshee has heavier wheels, heavier tyres,and heavier cranks. Not sure where the weight savings can be coming from to get it within 1lb of the Bronson
Tyres filled with helium.
FACT.
Like that 5 spot.
bomberman - Member
I must have picked better parts and spec lists
You must have the bestest specced bike everJust the ones that have the right quoted weights, I'm finding most modern stuff quoted properly just there is still some stuff sneaking in - like forks specced with heavier steerers etc.
Really, and how can you tell if a part has the right quoted weight? By looking at it I suppose?
[i]I'm sure you all know manufacturer weights are optimistic at best and a complete lie at worst. Time after time i've weighed something and it's been over the quoted manufacturer weight, often by a fair bit.[/i]
Rode with a chap that had just picked up a new carbon Whyte 29er FS.
It felt light to pick up. 26.5lbs he said it weighed, according to Whyte.
I suggested he try me Ti HT, "that's light", says he "what's it 22, 23lbs?"
Nope, 26.5lbs on my (Park) scales 🙂
Really, and how can you tell if a part has the right quoted weight? By looking at it I suppose?
Mostly by dropping it on some scales... I was making the judgement based on that and having done 3 builds where the sum of the quoted weights added up to the weight of the bike.
Mostly by dropping it on some scales... I was making the judgement based on that and having done 3 builds where the sum of the quoted weights added up to the weight of the bike.
Oh so like, equations and stuff?
b r what did his face say? Was he surprised?
As iv already said earlier in this thread if anything that Santa Cruz should be coming in lighter, closer to 26lbs than where it is up near 28.
I am not saying that there can't be more than 1lbs between the two bikes. What I am saying is that I have weighed mine twice, in my mates shop and at home and it's coming in at 29lbs. My friend is the mechanic at Bike Park Wales and has just build up a rune with an identical spec to mine but in black instead of green and it's coming in at something like 29.04 or the like. He is on this forum so will get him to put pics up.
I think the edges are getting blurred here. The initial discussion for me in this thread is not the fact that there is just over a pound between the two bikes, that's open to discussion. It's the fact that someone called me out and said my measurements are off, which they are not. The bike is under 30lbs. 🙂
If that banshee weighs 29lbs my Enduro must about 26 😉
[i]Santa Cruz quote 5.3lbs for a Bronson C frame with Fox CTD
Banshee were quoting 8.5 lbs for a Rune with CCDBa when I was looking to buy one.
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It shows how I can get mine down to 26.5lbs with 3x9, big tyres, pedals, dropper, cruds and light-brackets - as my frame is only 3.5lbs. For a 20". 🙂
Thanks B R.
A much heavier Bronson build coming in at 26.5, which shows that this Gucci version up the page has to be even lighter.
And honourablegeorge the frames were redesigned for 2014 and weight was dropped off in several places, according to the designer. Loss was around 1lb so your frame quote of 8.5 lbs only applies to the 2013 frame.











