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Pondering replacing my nicked bikes with a 120-140mm forked 29er Hardtail...
Burly enough for BPW, light enough for big days out.
What have you got?
How have you gotten on with it?
Pictures please!
Not got a picture to hand but my 2 Souls Quarterhorse has been far more capable than the Nicolai Helius it replaced, done Lakes, Wales, Quantocks and this summer taking it to Morzine because its just that good to ride.
Search on here about them, they're really jolly good
SSStu, and Scienceofficer both have one too
needs wheels Brant... and forks.... gears would be nice... .brakes would be lovely.
Mwhahahahhhahhahhahh ha.
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One of these you mean?
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Bah, i'll be buggered if I can work out images through Googledrive. Anyway, it's another 2Souls Quarterhorse with MRP Stage forks and by the time i'd faffed the others had posted theirs.
Absolutely brilliant and now with dropper. Had a Canfield Yelli before and this is just better. Brilliantly finished frame, rides superbly, can't fault it really. If you happen to be XL then there is one in the classifieds at the moment. Typical riding is surrey hills trails but been to bike park wales a couple of times and it was great there too albeit some of the blacks get a bit bone shakey but that would happen on any hardtail.
This does the job for me. Will take up to 140 forks, but feels pretty good for everything I'm brave enough to hit at 120.
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2013 Trek Stache here. Shorter stem, wider bars, Reverb Stealth, SID RCT3s now.
I still like it. It's my only MTB so does everything from a pootle around local bridleways for an hour, to a day at BPW or Afan. No plans to change it, just need to get round to fitting the wider rims and going tubeless.
Really interesting thread and some nice bikes.
Sorry for a slight thread hijack but @ frood - do your slides 'stick' I'd they've been left overnight, etc. I have them on my bike and it's so annoying. Someone said try fork juice and I have but to no avail.
Thanks for any feedback.
Go on then, I'll bite.. What the frame Brant (& geo)?
@Normal Man. No such troubles with mine, the EWS did blow the damper, so took them apart and serviced them, work fine. Lot more ramp up than the Reba RL I had before, I'd rate it a lot higher. It's no pike, but for a hardcore hardtail it doesn't hold me back.
Edit... I leave my bikes hanging up, so the seals will be sitting in oil when it's not being ridden
I've got some slides on my other bike, there is an initial sticking feeling of the bike hadn't been used for a while but it's def not overnight.
Thanks guys. Mine take a good few full weight pushes on the bars to free them up.
Like I said, I'd been told fork.juice helps but using it both pre and post ride hasn't changed anything.
Old, and poor photo, but you get the idea...
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z1ppy - Member
Go on then, I'll bite.. What the frame Brant (& geo)?
Hi - sorry for delay.
It's a Pact Battlecat.
http://issuu.com/pactbikes/docs/battlecat_press_pack
Had a Canfield Yelli before...
My purple Yelli (formally Gotama's) with a 140mm Rev and some 35mm rims
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Exactly. 28.5lb with the P35s/Chunky Monkey 2.4 tyres, 26.5lb if I switch to Crests with Ardent/Ikon combo.Burly enough for BPW, light enough for big days out.
Trek Stache 8 + 120mm Pikes + Dropper Post 27.5lbs with pedals. Love it!
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I'm hopefully building something up in this vein but struggling to find 120+mm forks at a sensible price
Is disappoint at singlespeedstu for lack of horse bombing.
🙁
Scienceofficer - are they Lightbike carbon wheels on yours? How are you finding them? Any substance in the 'carbon wheels are too stiff for a hardtail and they'll break your bones' line or does it ride well/no differently.
Genesis High Latitude with 120mm forks. Rides really well and is a lot of fun. Very good as my second bike and compliments the full sus very well. Pretty basic forks up front but I reckon with a 120/130mm Pike up front and some burly rubber fitted then it would be a riot.
Not mine, but borrowed for a few days:
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Prototype Kingdom Bikes Brigante.
Was absolutely awesome riding the 4-pass route in the Lakes. Light and easy for hike-a-bike up and an absolute hoot to steam-roller down. (was crap at pedalling upo the road to Honistor IIRC)
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Yes, they’re light bike 35mm rims, built using conventional J-bend spokes and hubs (either Hope pro2 or DT Swiss 350s). My experience of them has been nothing but positive really. I have two sets, one that is about 15 months old on my sultan and the 2nd Set has been on the ‘Orse since about Easter this year. They do get marked on rocks quite easily, but no more than Stans aluminium rims IMO.
My reasons for purchasing were based on the desire to get a wider rim for better tyre profile and volume without paying the price of either extra weight or increased flexibility of wider alu rims. The internal width of the LB’s is 7mm more than my old alu rims for the same weight. They’re also obviously very much stiffer. I also reckoned that hookless beads would tubeless really well with the newer breed of tubeless ready tyres now bead tolerances are more carefully controlled and I think I was right on that count.
So, stiffness. Yes – they are stiffer. It's the first thing I noticed of the Sultan, which I use as my big days in the hills bike. It translates as additional pickup under acceleration and a few rides of over-steering until you adapt. These effects seem to be magnified on the ‘orse a bit, and with it comes a little bit of small bump chatter since there’s no rear suspension. I supposed its possible that someone with a sub-optimally configured fork could feel the difference if the damping setup was a bit out. It feels like the tyres have too much pressure in them. I realised fairly quickly that the additional wheel stiffness is providing more trail feedback. If you’re the type of rider that spends a long time sat pedalling, it’s possible that you may not like the additional feedback or jarring. I personally don’t think it's a massive deal, but it does exist. One of the reasons I don’t think it's a massive deal is that the extra volume and width has allowed me to take approx. 4 PSI from my standard tyre pressures, which both provides increased grip, removes the chattery feel and doesn’t seem to affect the rolling speed. I’m 14.5st and run 20 PSI these days, which is enough for all but the biggest, fastest hits, like say, the Macmillan way on Exmoor in last year’s Mondraker Gravity Enduro, where I blew 2 snakebites (4 holes) through a Hans Dampf in one single hit (not a mark on the rim anywhere).
For me, the advantages far outweigh the slight adaptation required as a result of the additional stiffness. Its certainly not ‘break your bones territory’. How much you notice it will depend on how rough your usual riding is, and how perceptive you are as an individual IMO.
Stanton sherpa with 30T chainring/42t expander, 120mm Pikes, Mavic Crossride wheels, '15 Nobby Nic/Slant six tyres and no dropper it's around 28.5Lb. No light weight but a great bike for the ups and downs of the lakes.
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Love that Sherpa superfastjellyfish. So tempted to swap my 29er FS for one but as a one bike for all man, a bit worried I'll regret it on long bumpy rides.
Yes, they’re light bike 35mm rims
Thanks, appreciate the detailed feedback. Interesting you can get away with such low tyre pressures too.
Interesting you can get away with such low tyre pressures too.
I was surprised myself, but I've been a fan of big, low pressure tyres on wide rims for a quite a while and I've got a fair amount of tubeless experimentation under my belt these days!
Love that Sherpa superfastjellyfish. So tempted to swap my 29er FS for one but as a one bike for all man, a bit worried I'll regret it on long bumpy rides.
Replaced my 26" FS with it in November and never looked back @andyflaw. Longest ride is 23.4miles Stavley -> Gatesgarth/Nan beid and back, plenty of bumpy and no broken back. 29ers roll man......
Lots of lovely bikes!
Cheers!
I have on my short list:
Chromag Rootdown
Cotic Solaris (new version)
Stanton Sherpa
I should be able to get a nicely spec'd (Pikes or Revs, SLX/XT, Hope bits, reverb/lev, etc) bike for 2k!
That stanton sherpa gets more appealing everyday....fancying a change from the canyon, also the trans am 29 looks good... to many decisions..
Ragley Bigwig? Not sure you can get them new anymore but a second hand frame would be peanuts.
http://ragleybikes.com/products/bigwig-frame/
Does give away 1lb/500g to the sherpa and solaris though but not found the weight a problem.
Trans-Am in L, would be ace! Shame they have sold out of them for this year.
No more until November.
Unless....someone knows of one lurking in a LBS somewhere?
Trans-AM in L you say? 🙂
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Now running stealth Reverb and flat bars. Crying out for a stouter pair of forks than the Revs on there
I am liking this thread!
Scienceofficer - Member
I am liking this thread!
So am I! Despite my humble 100mm forks!
@tomtomr - that Trans AM looks lovely.
jimfrandisco - MemberRagley Bigwig? Not sure you can get them new anymore but a second hand frame would be peanuts.
http://ragleybikes.com/products/bigwig-frame/Does give away 1lb/500g to the sherpa and solaris though but not found the weight a problem.
Think Chain reaction must have had the last, and they sold out around Christmas. I have tried everywhere for one without luck. New or second hand.
You've not been looking hard enough, I just got a second-hand one this lunch.
There's a full build on pinkbike too.
Now I just need some 120 or more forks
Not got a picture to hand but my 2 Souls Quarterhorse has been far more capable than the Nicolai Helius it replaced, done Lakes, Wales, Quantocks and this summer taking it to Morzine because its just that good to ride.
Search on here about them, they're really jolly good
Anyway, it's another 2Souls Quarterhorse with MRP Stage forks and by the time i'd faffed the others had posted theirs.Absolutely brilliant and now with dropper. Had a Canfield Yelli before and this is just better. Brilliantly finished frame, rides superbly, can't fault it really. If you happen to be XL then there is one in the classifieds at the moment.
Absolutely loving this thread. Not least because being an XL myself I've just pushed the button on the XL in the classifieds. Proper excited! 😀
Excellent choice!
thepodge - MemberYou've not been looking hard enough, I just got a second-hand one this lunch.
There's a full build on pinkbike too.
Now I just need some 120 or more forks
Was yours a medium by any chance?
I look on eBay, have had wanted ads up here and search weekly on the usual like pinkbike, not seen a large, which is what I need.
The one on Pinkbike is a full build which i'm not keen on and overpriced i'd say at £900. There was a full bike on here but seller wouldn't split which is fine, and one on ebay a month back that I put an overthetop bid on but seller pulled it.
Is disappoint at singlespeedstu for lack of horse bombing.
Sorry.
I don't come on here very much any more.
QH with 150 Fox 34.
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With 140Rev.
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YS with 140 Rev.
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N9 with 140 Fox 34
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@coomber, that's the ones. I'm fairly sure there was a large Trans am on there too but that might have been another full build
Lovely bikes there Stu.
Are you still around on bearbones? I've neglected that a bit. Only thought of it today when I wore my jersey.
It'll be my first 29er and I only ride singlespeed these days so not sure how valid my opinion would be
Just gone from 3 years with a QR Reba at 100mm up to an X Fusion Trace with through axle, 120mm and bigger stanchions (still 1 1/8 steerer). The beefier fork has made a real difference and really suits the frame without adding noticeable weight. All ready for the Alps 🙂
I have on my short list:
Chromag Rootdown
Cotic Solaris (new version)
Stanton Sherpa
My Chromag is a Samurai65 rather than a 29er, so just showing you some head-badge, cockpit and bespoke colour-scheme. Very, very happy with it, super-rad. 🙂
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Also, I'm pretty sure the Quarterhorses still win.
😀
ust gone from 3 years with a QR Reba at 100mm up to an X Fusion Trace with through axle, 120mm and bigger stanchions (still 1 1/8 steerer). The beefier fork has made a real difference and really suits the frame without adding noticeable weight. All ready for the Alps
What frame is it?
Also, I'm pretty sure the Quarterhorses still win.
Yes, yes they do. Although the Canfields are very good too and I would like to have a go on their new silly expensive EPO or whatever it's called.
As before, now has dropper, best bike I've ever had.
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Loving my mainstream Trek Stache (pictured earlier) main reason for getting this (over building one up) was the 142x12 rear axle as well as the longer 120mm forks. Now with Pikes and a Reverb its my ideal bike.
Trek Stache a well - 19" and for SALE
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What frame is it?
Home made! I started playing with short back ends / slack head angle back in 2010-2011.
Designed for ss, hub gear or 1x. Currently running rear end at 410mm chainstays (true length along the stay) so no options for a front mech. Twin 1/2" chainstay tubes to give clearance for fat tyre and mud (regular 135mm dropouts and 73 bb shell). Will adjust down to about 404 mm. 72 deg effective SA, 69 HA with the longer forks. Rides great up or down (if it didn't I'd be making something else rather than sticking with this frame for the last 3 years).
Like it! 😀
I like the twin chainstays on that home build
I'd love the Canfield that was in the classifieds... cant work out how to post pics from someone else's account but linked [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/132734537@N03/19355130721/in/album-72157655332898302/ ]HERE[/url]
For anyone that's interested my Yelli frame(size medium) might be up for sale soon.
is there a hardtail 29er available that will take a 160mm fork?
or can you reduce a 160mm pike down to 140/150mm?
Ton yes you can reduce the Pike.
You'll need a new air shaft at about £30.
Stu, if you getting rid of the yelli, does that mean your pushing the button on an EPO?
cheers ssstu
Ooh! That EPO looks right up my street!
Umm did anyone pick up on the frame Brant posted. Looks like a Titus fireline with straighter tubes and a thru axle at the back....
z1ppy.
I'm thinking about it.
Tried one out for size but not sure I want to pay that much for a hardtail frame.
The Wanderer.. Brant did reply, though I'd already located it.. The Pact Battlecat, a 65+/29er Ti frame...though can't find any info on geo (and a lot more than I want to pay for a winter bike)
> http://issuu.com/pactbikes/docs/battlecat_press_pack
Loving my mainstream Trek Stache (pictured earlier) main reason for getting this (over building one up) was the 142x12 rear axle as well as the longer 120mm forks. Now with Pikes and a Reverb its my ideal bike.
Is the Pike a 51mm offset?
If not, how;s it compare to the stock fork handling-wise?
Shut it z1ppy.
🙂
The Wanderer.. Brant did reply, though I'd already located it.. The Pact Battlecat, a 65+/29er Ti frame...though can't find any info on geo (and a lot more than I want to pay for a winter bike)
http://issuu.com/pactbikes/docs/battlecat_press_pack
It's custom. So we can do whatever you fancy.
Current models are 65.5deg static, 60mm BB drop, 435mm chainstays, 470mm reach on the 19in frame.
Is the Pike a 51mm offset?If not, how;s it compare to the stock fork handling-wise?
Yes the Pike is 51mm offset. I did put a 120mm 'standard' SID on there and it handled noticeably worse. (SIDS now on eBay)
The stock Fox forks were the notorious 2013 CTD ones.
Green Pike stickers from slik graphics.
Thanks for the reply andy.
I would be very reluctant to change from a 51mm offset fork as it handles so well now, but haven't tried anything else.
Just curious TBH, gonna keep the Rev on mine as I use it for a bit of XC racing and it could do with being lighter anyway.
Some great bikes here !
I read one mention of a Bigwig which reminded me a mate of mine was making some noises the other day about selling or breaking his for a another full suss build... PM me if your interested, it's a nice build manitou fork, Hope/Stan's, dropper, SLX 2x10.......
Wow, just had a look at the Epo, lovely, but that's silly money for a carbon hardtail, I'll keep my QH, it's doing the job more than adequately at present.
Perhaps one day all these 'orses should ride together, obviously somewhere technical











