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I'm thinking of getting one of the full builds when they are available later this year.
Show me your builds to help me decide which one
I’ve got a Secan 1 in gray putty with purple bits. Full grx 810. It’s pretty.
Mate got a Secan 2 in black with purple bits. Full grx 600. It was pretty for 4 days until he got taken off it. Fairlight are being ace about a replacement which I believe will be orange (with purple bits :o(
Pic? Later :o)
How hard can it be to post a pic??
Grx800 and 650b with Racekings. 58T frame. With added dust.
Mine is due august. Orange with GRX800 2x, king upgrade, 700c. Would have loved the grey with purple components but they stopped making it! I’m probably changing the brakes to RX4
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Yay! Well sort of, that's very low Rez.
Lol- depends. Photos on phone, typing on iPad. Is that OK?
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Image posting failure. It use to be so easy!
The forum Gremlins are back. It took me about 5 attempts to start this thread !
Mine's a Faran 1, in 650b gravel mode and 700c winter..
Not great pics, but it's a fantastic bike. I'm also thinking of getting a Secan too.
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That's the new model Faran with GRX600 double. Really really good bike. Not tried it with 650 yet but only heard good things.
Which one would you recommend to replace a croix de fer?
Mainly used as a winter bike with 38mm GK slicks and light touring with a Tailfin seatpack/bag.
Plans to start audaxing and long distance rides.
I was going to get a faran but got put off it, whe they described it as designed for front loaded touring.
Which one would you recommend to replace a croix de fer?
I've used my Secan for a couple of 600K audaxes with 28s on: it's great long distance bike. Had it 3 years now and I'm still well pleased with it.
Here's my Faran.
Bought frameset, added various new and old bits from existing bikes - Paul Klampers, old Ultegra and Dura Ace 9 speed, Middleburn chainset, SON dynamo hub and lights, plus a nice Acorn rando bag.
Not light but does the job for me. Nicely thought out details though running dynamo wires round BB was not easy. Would be better with a T47 BB really.
Going to try and fit Ultegra Di2 mechanical shifters and gears in a couple of weeks.
Got a Secan last June and it's been fantastic. Went frame only and built up with Ultegra 6800 and some parts from my old bike. Now have two sets of wheels - one for the road with 11-32 cassette and Vittoria Corsa Controls, and one for more off road with WTB Resolutes and a 11-40 cassette. Really versatile, ridiculously comfortable, just all round good fun and makes you want to get out and explore further.
This is a stupid, unnecessary thread. I have a perfectly good gravel bike that I'm really happy with and I should not be spending my morning hovering over the Secan order button.
same here but I now want a Secan GRX600 2x
My imaginary Secan that I can't afford actually has an AXS Mullet group on it, which I can't afford either. It's orange.
Orange Secan 2 here.
Can't remember who to host pics now!!
Has anyone got a 58T or 58R in West Yorkshire that I could sit on for size?
What's the paint like? Does it need protection or is it robust enough??
Ordered a Strael recently for the road. It's gunna be a long wait.
I can't post pics but used a pic of mine in classifieds when looking for gravel tires the other day @DougD how is it withe the resolutes, thinking of a pair for around gravel use with some road for mixed riding and linking up sections
@karnali, yeah finding them really good - set up tubeless on Hunt 4Season Gravel XWides, so 25mm internal width which gives a good profile, and use them for exactly as you mention there, off road with road to/from/links.
Had a pair of Riddlers before but it's not really a like for like comparison as they weren't tubeless and were also on narrower rims that I'm now using for the Corsas. However, finding the current setup with the Resolutes much better than the Riddlers.
What’s the paint like? Does it need protection or is it robust enough??
It's good, I've got a couple of stone chips around the BB which have marked the top coat only. Top tube has dulled a bit where frame bag has been but that's the only noticeable marking.
One thing that I would mention is that I had a bit of difficulty with an almost seized seat post: it gets regularly removed and greased now.
Thanks
I was concerned about frame bags rubbing the nice paint off. I guess I could use frame protection at key points
anyone got a size 58 in W Yorks or Manchester area?
Got a Secan with Ultegra RX, hope wheels - just change the tyres from road gravel king slicks to non slicks and covers pretty much everything. Not used my road bike since i got it, such a great bike def worth the wait
https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=fairlight&contacts=all&view_all=1
Fairlight have all their build type up on Flickr if you want to take a look.....
No too sure if that link worked but search for Fairlight on Flickr
given I can't throw a leg over one locally, how did you guys decide if the frame will fit well?
I used a combination of previous bike fit data, and comparison with a road bike I'd had for a few years. It's also worth taking to the people at Fairlight, they are really helpful, friendly people.
Disclaimer - I'm biased, we have two Straels and two Secans in the household!
@feltop - I emailed them and they said 58T should be okay. They didn't provide a phone number though.
@ElShalimo if your not sure, and really want to speak to them, just email and ask. They were more than hero to speak to my wife when she was making her mind up. If you happen to be anywhere near the NW Highlands, you can try a 58T and 56T!
thanks, I'll email them again
Loved the Fairlight website and all the info but found the Faran colours underwhelming and also am a sucker for a nice head badge. Shand were super helpful and got my cash for a Stoater. Glad they did as mine took about 6 weeks while a colleague is still waiting for her Secan ordered in Oct/Nov.
Just ordered a Secan, long wait for the frameset, September! But it will give me an opportunity to decide on which groupset to go for.
For fit, I initially just looked at the calculator on the main website but based on my proportions that was giving me a 58T or 58R which reading further, I thought may be a bit large. So I emailed them and they sent me a Fairlight Fit Report to complete based on the proportions of my then current bike which was there or thereabouts size-wise but I was keen for it to be a bit smaller (it was a large Boardman CX team). That fit report gave me a 56T with a few mm of spacers and a 90mm stem which fits perfectly
Well my dithering hasn't helped. Secan with GRX 2x builds are now scheduled for January 2022
Can anyone recommend a similar GRX 2x full bike for ~£2k that will be in stock by the Autumn?
Morning bump
ElShalimo
Well my dithering hasn’t helped. Secan with GRX 2x builds are now scheduled for January 2022
Dammit. Your dithering post made me panic about my dithering and now I seem to have bought a frame. Just confirmed a frame for late Sept with Fairlight, and sold a frame yesterday which kind of pays for the deposit.
Which colour?
We dont talk about the colour...... as much as I love mine... the new blue is gorgeous 🙁
ElShalimo what made you favour secan over faran?
My Faran at Gatescarth
@james-rennie - it was the reviews I'd read and the carbon fork but the Faran looks great too. However the Secan is just a prettier bike.
I think both are January 2022 delivery for GRX 2x builds now hence I asked for recommendations for alternatives.
It might be that the wait is for GRX rather than anything else? Similar Mason Bokeh builds have December 2021 dates (I know it’s not what you’re after but is the first equivalent that came to mind).
Thanks but the lower spec Bokeh is roughly £3k
My budget was £2k but can stretch a little more
I ordered my Secan GRX800 2X back end of January with a build date of beginning of August. I had since found out that i can get it on bike to work, submitted the forms, but VIVUP want it without postage for some reason. Fairlight have amended the order but the date has been moved to the middle of November! Really hoping its a typo....but suspect its not. Will see how they reply to my email.
Thanks but the lower spec Bokeh is roughly £3k
Yeah sorry my point was that the limitation might be the groupset rather than anything else, so if you're definitely after GRX 2x you might have the same availability problem everywhere. The Mason was just to illustrate that rather than suggest it as an option.
I think you're right, GRX 2x is in limited supply
Shand Stoater are available with GRX 2x within 8 weeks...🤔🤔🤔
Going for Rival ETap on mine, with a GX AXS rear mech. Not that far off GX Mechanical in terms of price - the GX AXS mech is on sale at bike-components right now, and the Rival brakes/shifters are cheaper than GRX. If the Rival parts show up on time, I'll have them two months before the frame.
Interesting George, what are you going for in terms of gearing?
Current bike has 10-42 and a 42t, and for me that's almost perfect, but here are a few steep offroad climbs where a little lower would be nice, so 10-50 will give me that extra bailout gear.
To be honest, if SRAM did a 10-45 like Shimano, I'd go for that, but I don't want to faff with freehubs, etc.
Oh - I mean "not that far off GRX Mechanical" above
I'm a big fan of the one-off colour-matched fork they did on this Secan
Seems I'm not alone - I asked Dom whether they'd offer it as an option, they're thinking about it
The Strael they did for Jack Howker at Albion was pretty tasty too:
That's lovely (although I hate the look of those rotors with the heatsinks)
The Strael has a colour matched fork as standard now
I need to stop looking at the Secan page before I order a frameset. The orange is nice but just found a picture of the blue. So smart.
I need to stop looking at the Secan page before I order a frameset. The orange is nice but just found a picture of the blue. So smart.
That was me last May. Then I thought, why not, and ordered a black Secan. It's amazing. Two sets of wheels and it's so capable. Long offroad routes, byway exploring and weekend club runs. Puts a smile on my face every time I'm out on it.
La la la your not helping 😆.
Don't need one just want a change from my current Camino.
Same happened me, have a perfectly good bike, got sucked in by lovely photos.
Rival ETap AXS shifter/brake combos in stock at Mantel now, just over 200 Euro an end, just ordered mine, and they've shipped. This bike is ending up fancier than I envisaged. Rival ETap brake/shifters are 2/3rd the price of GRX 810 - obviously the derailleur and cassette swallow that saving, but they end up pretty close on price.
https://www.mantel.com/ie/sram-rival-etap-axs-hrd-shift-brake-system-gear-shifterset
Has anyone got hold of the Strael 3.0 yet? Apparently due about now...
I'm really fancying a Strael. I've got short arms and I reckon that the 'T' (54) configuration would be ideal. Can't decide between orange and putty, though....
Definately Putty
Bit of a hijack but my new Strael 3.0 arrived yesterday. OMG it rides so nicely, just perfectly balanced. A bit heavy (10kg) but makes up for it by being soo taut. If you're thinking about it, buy one. The dogs. https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArgWawuaGIKUi3gJlcDe__56WxKk
ooh that's nice
Dammit, that's unfair. My Secan is October.
Secan 2.5:
Now built in Taiwan not Europe with brexit being blamed. Looks like mine due next month will be the new model
My Secan
Running different saddle to this pic now.
Lovely, lovely bike. Rides really nice with the gravel king 35 tyres. Would love to get some 650b with 2.2 mountain bike tyres on
P20
Secan 2.5:
Now built in Taiwan not Europe with brexit being blamed. Looks like mine due next month will be the new model
Oh man, that is ace. I had been bugging them about getting a colour matched fork, mine is due in earlyOct so looks like I get the new model too.
New dropouts too, that's a good addition. Hope the duty scenario doesn't affect me
Just realised that 2.4" compatibility means I can nick my old 27.5 carbon wheels off my son's bike and build a monster truck too 🙂
@finephilly what size strael is that? And how tall are you if you don't mind me asking? What build did you go for? I have been thinking about one for ages but the higher weight over a carbon frame is just niggling away at me in the back of my mind, although I do have a steel hardtail Mtb.
That's a 58R. I'm 183cm tall and evenly proportioned. It fits really well, but I haven't done any long rides on it yet (50 mile+). I'm quite flexible too and like a racy position, which is easy to achieve (they give you lots of spacers and don't cut the steerer).
I went for standard 105 but paid another £200 for hope wheels, which is all you need, really. I reckon it's worth paying another £40 for Conti GP5000's too (I have some spare ultrasports instead).
I understand your concern about weight (it is a bit slower uphill) - maybe if all I did was go for short fast blasts, I would get a carbon bike, but the weight is made up for by the handling and I think on long rides, it will be nice and comfortable too.
Just seeing a comment on IG from Fairlight re existing orders, they will absorb the duty costs for bikes already ordered, so no extra duty. I would have lived with 4% on a frame, but I'm sure 14% on a full bike would have been quite a sting for some folks, so nice to know they're taking care of that too.
They seem like a good bunch, Fairlight.
Anyone using a secan as mainly a road bike, who has previously or still has a lighter road bike and how does it compare? Possible to build one at around 8.5 kgs without going silly money?