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This review perfectly reflects my experience
https://www.perpetualdisappointment.co.uk/2018-hope-tech-e3-long-term-review/
That review is bang on correct - in my experience.
I was looking for reviews of the 4 pot brakes last year when a bike I was considering had them on and this was the most comprehensive I found at the time. It was a Rallon I was looking at which specced GX drive chain and XT brakes. Based on this review, being once bitten twice shy with my previous set of M8000 brakes (which I had upgraded to as I liked previous Shimano brakes so much) plus MMX compatibility I was going to swap out my existing Codes for the XTs if I had bought the bike.
It's a tough call as if you get a good set the XTs will be great.
FWIW I have a set of Shimano disc brakes on my road bike. They have been faultless over the past 2 years.
This review perfectly reflects my experience
https://www.perpetualdisappointment.co.uk/2018-hope-tech-e3-long-term-review/
That review makes a big deal about the price of Hope's, when in this case either will be the same price with the build. And the article start by say they were replacing 3 x warranties set of XT's.
And also we have the recent enduro mag review of the latest XT's, saying pretty much the same as pink bike. Wandering bite point, it's not a made up problem...but I've no real world experience of how bad/scary it is.
https://enduro-mtb.com/en/shimano-xt-m8100-four-piston-brakes-test/
I'm sure I'll make a decision...eventually.
Most XT brakes since the M785 series I've tried have had the wandering issue, sometimes it's an annoying niggle, other's its downright scary! I've got E4's on both bikes at the minute and can't see me changing them, enough power for me at 75kg with 180/180mm rotors and good modulation, they look ace too.
There's some speculation that the wandering bite point problem on shimano brakes is caused by the mineral oil being too viscous in colder weather.
I've never experienced it, so I wouldn't know, but it sounds plausible ish.
Ah balls, the bike builder just mailed asking what brakes I want.
Ah balls, the bike builder just mailed asking what brakes I want.
Reply with: "Surprise me."
I did, shunning all responsibility...just like in real life.
Not a bad idea! At least you won't be disappointed with which ever you end up with now 🙂
Surprise! Hope front anodised red and Shimano rear
E4’s from £132 at Winstanleys.
Awesome cheers, £132 front and £140 rear.
Maybe mine are broken but you have to properly yank them to really slow down on anything steep. This yanking over a long ride gives proper arm pump. For instance I really struggled on the bottom of Ponduro to control/have faith in the bike (which is probably part of the issue, if you know you can stop you are more likely to not stop??) whereas with previous Zees that wasnt a problem…
They are really sensitive to setup. If you don't get the pistons centred, and then decentred after installing the rotor, they can feel pretty poor.
Ive never found the last part on Ponduro to never have not enough power on E4s or V4s. I really don't feel like I'm yanking on them, they're pretty easy for me to lockup if I want to.
What's the deal/catch with that Winstanleys offer? It seems they've got none of them actually in stock, why offer a hefty discount on something you don't have that isn't normally ever discounted that much? Are Hope cool with them doing that? I'm really tempted at that price and I'm not in a hurry for new brakes. The 'if it's too good to be true it probably is' bell is ringing though...
Are they just trying to keep cash flow up?
If it makes a difference I just bled my front E4 using the hope kit and it was an utter joy. 🙂
Great kit. The little things make all the difference.
What’s the deal/catch with that Winstanleys offer? It seems they’ve got none of them actually in stock, why offer a hefty discount on something you don’t have that isn’t normally ever discounted that much? Are Hope cool with them doing that? I’m really tempted at that price and I’m not in a hurry for new brakes. The ‘if it’s too good to be true it probably is’ bell is ringing though…
Are they just trying to keep cash flow up?
Check anywhere else and very few places have stock - Hope (same as all other parts) are thin on the ground at the moment. If you want them urgently, you'll probably have to shop around and pay a bit more.
Actually bought some red ones a couple of years back for £115 at winstanleys, also on order, just a couple of days delay if I remember correctly, was gonna pick em up but they had already posted them before I rang.
Current covid issues will probably mean a bit of a wait though.
I got mine via winstanleys a few years back. The site isn't great at giving you update notifications but turn up they did.